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Shadow Viewer 1.23 (Windows and Linux)

[4 April: Updated to new SVN version 1.23.0.116519]
Music...eehhh...Shadows for the Masses :smile:...
Shadow Viewer is an early build out of the development branch for the upcoming 1.23+ SL viewer (obviously) implementing the new shadows features...and they really look great! It is purely meant as an early preview, perhaps to take some nice snapshots, and play around, but it is not meant for any serious work. It is something pre-alpha, it will crash. So be prepared and don't complain later p:.

This is a new build based on latest SVN 1.23.0.116519, that's 3 revisions from the previous Shadow Viewer and there are a lot of changes for the rendering pipeline. I only tested it shortly, but alpha issues are still there.

What has also changed is the brand new installer/uninstaller that works similar to LL's installation, however it doesn't call home and it creates own and independent file structures for the Shadow Viewer.
It will install the Shadow Viewer into C:\Program Files\ShadowViewer and it should not mess up any existing Cool Viewer or SecondLife installation. But of course it may as it is as buggy as it gets. Please note that this is a *FULL* installation and does not require (nor would it work) to install a LL viewer before as with Cool Viewer.

It detail it uses (that's for XP):
Main installation: C:\Program Files\ShadowViewer
User settings: C:\Documents and Settings\<you>\Application Data\ShadowViewer
Cache: C:\Documents and Settings\<you>\Local Settings\Application Data\ShadowViewer

To install the Shadow Viewer you need to run the installer you can find here::
http://coolviewer.googlecode.com/files/ShadowViewer_1-23-0-116519_Setup.exe


You still need to add the not redistributable components. The installer will show a text info about this automatically after successful setup.

Please start the Shadow Viewer with the included Shadow Viewer.lnk shortcut only!


And here comes an additional Linux build (Ubuntu Jaunty). I had to split the package again in two files due to the upload filesize limit here. You need 7zip to unpack it (in Ubuntu "sudo apt-get install p7zip", then use the archive manager). Excluded are non-redistributable voice and KDU parts as in the Windows version. Please get them from an official 1.22 viewer)

http://files.myopera.com/boylane/files/SL/ShadowViewer-i686-1.23.0-R2-Linux.7z.001
http://files.myopera.com/boylane/files/SL/ShadowViewer-i686-1.23.0-R2-Linux.7z.002


To enable shadows you need to go to Edit / Preferences / Graphics / Hardware Options. There select "OpenGL Framebuffer Objects" and "Enable per-pixel lightning and shadows". Please note that Antialiasing did *NOT* work for me (Nvidia GTX260).


This is *NOT* a Cool Viewer. It has a number of features of CV included, but it doesn't have the legacy UI or RLV. These represent too many changes to apply to a moving target and are simply not worth to spend any time on yet.

Included features are:
Bulk permission editing (part of official 1.23 to come)
Enhanced building tools (part of official 1.23 to come)
Flexible Sculpties
Double click to wear attachments
Large Prims (only for Opensim grids)
Maximized Network Bandwidth
MUPose Style
Worn Inventory Tab
Teleport History
...and a number of more goodies and (hopefully) stability fixes. Too many to mention here :smile:. Please check the included releasenotes.txt for details.

Sources:
http://files.myopera.com/boylane/files/SL/src_shdw_1.23.0_2.tar.gz
http://files.myopera.com/boylane/files/SL/src_shdw_1.23.0_3.tar.gz

:D

Luv,
Boy

Cool Viewer for ATi (Windows) with OpenGL fixes - some more testers needed!Cool Viewer 1.22.11.0 R7

Comments

TrasheVyper 28. April 2009, 16:57

hmm after turning the AI off the viewer run but no shadows for me :frown:

Anonymous 29. April 2009, 00:46

Anonymous (2) writes:

I use an english version of Windows, but as I posted, I do indeed have a GTS card. It will be awhile before I scrape up the dough for a new card. But would be interested in seeing this veiwer progress nonetheless!

Anonymous 29. April 2009, 19:13

Lena writes:

It crashes too at login screen, exactly just after "Initializing Word" message.
I have a NVIDIA 9800GT with latest drivers.

Anonymous 9. May 2009, 12:53

Anonymous writes:

Same as Lena, crash at Initializing world. I have 2x ATI HD4850 in crossfire.

Anonymous 10. May 2009, 12:18

Imsaho Fleury writes:

Works quite nicely. Sometimes the shadow calcs get it wrong (terrain shadows on a mountain) and need kicking (move the viewer). I've had to turn my facelight off (no longer appropriate, my face is now 'properly' lit).

night time is quite good (even though lights don't throw shadows).

I've seen some weird artifacts (dark splodge in sky, black texture on objects) that go away when the viewpoint is moved. Some house architecture has to be changed (shadows don't work on full bright surface so if you want a shadow on a surface, turn FB off).

Frame rate is remarkably good (30fps in a heavily wooded area after textures have loaded).

Oh .. and crashed once after logging in when rapidly scanning round a heavily textured area, but this is usually a no-no anyway.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Series Processor (2128 MHz)
Memory: 2046 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce 9800 GT/PCI/SSE2 Driver 6.14.11.8585
OpenGL Version: 3.0.0

Anonymous 18. May 2009, 02:45

Jaereth Enoch writes:

I've downloaded and installed this, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything. I'm not seeing any shadows at all. I've enabled VBO (which causes all sorts of crazy artifacts on my card), FBO, and Defered Rendering, yet nothing is happening. I'm not seeing any differences at all from the normal viewer.

I'm on a Radeon HD 4870 w/512MB RAM with the most recent video drivers from ATI.

Am I missing something?

Boy Lane 18. May 2009, 04:43

@Jaereth
Should work with your card if you enable per-pixel lightning and shadows together with FBO in graphics settings. VBO is not necessary and causes the artifacts as you see.

Don't use the latest ATi drivers (9.4). They are the worst of all. Try either 9.3 or reportedly better is the 8.12 set. You may want to dry the DNA drivers that backport to an older and working OpenGL implementation from here: http://www.donotargue.com/page.php?id=918

Anonymous 18. May 2009, 15:09

Anonimo writes:

Hi Boylane,
I am one of the unlucky not able to run this version.
look like is the trouble with Nvidia 8600 GS

Venom

Boy Lane 18. May 2009, 17:00

I've tried to build a latest render-pipeline branch yesterday and graphics and layers are still completely messed up. No point in making a new version yet.

Anonymous 27. May 2009, 00:04

Jaereth Enoch writes:

Hey... still no good. Tried updating to 9.5, and then tried going back to the 8.12 set of DNA drivers and I still don't get anything. :( Any more ideas?

Anonymous 31. May 2009, 01:11

TigroSpottystripes Katsu writes:

the shortcut is wrong, the closign quotes must be by the end of the file name, and not past any command line option

Anonymous 31. May 2009, 01:19

Anonymous writes:

I'm also crashing to desktop on "Initializing World" :/

Shadow Viewer 1.23.0 (116519) Apr 5 2009 18:32:56 (Cool Viewer)
Release Notes

Built with MSVC version 1400

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 (Unknown model) (2999 MHz)
Memory: 3071 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce 7300 GT/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL Version: 2.1.2

libcurl Version: libcurl/7.18.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
J2C Decoder Version: KDU
Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3,750000
LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.24291 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.20_0000000000)


ps:but the captchas here are working perfectly for me now :)

Anonymous 31. May 2009, 01:20

TigroSpottystripes Katsu writes:

that was me, I forgot to put my name in

Anonymous 31. May 2009, 02:09

TigroSpottystripes Katsu writes:

swapped comma with the dot and now I'm dealing with my old nemesis, the freezing at "Initialized multimedia" :(

Boy Lane 31. May 2009, 04:04

GeForce 7300 wont work. Don't waste your time :wink:

Anonymous 31. May 2009, 16:26

TigroSpottystripes Katsu writes:

after more than one hour trying to login and failing, eventually I got in (just like how it happens with other clients, with me all clients got that f'ing freeze at Initializing multimedia glitch), just about everything but shadows (expected), pseudo-infinite amount of lights (I was told on SLDev that the shadow client had the trick to fake an almost infinite amount of lights in spite of the limitation of OpenGL, and I was given the impression they used the one that works without special hardware), and it was fun noticing how antialiasing screws the texture and then waiting as everything gradually over a long period of time slowly got normal again after disabling AA (I think at the time I logged off the only remaining noticeable effect was some things like contacts list icons and IM tabs were replaced with somthing kinda white for a couple of seconds after oppening the window)

Anonymous 31. May 2009, 16:28

TigroSpottystripes Katsu writes:

I meant to say that just about everything worked, except mainly for the items mentioned

Boy Lane 31. May 2009, 16:28

This code is now 2 months old :smile:. Newer versions may do slightly better :wink:

Anonymous 31. May 2009, 18:15

TigroSpottystripes Katsu writes:

I really meant it when I said that watching little texture glitches come and go amused me, I'm weird that way Xp

anyway, do you got an ETA on the next Boy Lane certified Shadow viewer?

and talking about experimental viewers, do you have any plans involving Snowglobe?

Anonymous 31. May 2009, 18:25

TigroSpottystripes Katsu writes:

btw, I dunno if this adds any usefull info, but while the textures of my av were messed on my screen, even rebaking didn't make the people around me see my av wrong (from my experience, if you rebake while somthing is messing with your av textures on your side, like some programs messing with SL's share of video memory, or using your av clothes texture as the land media and playing while rebaking, it gets repassed to everyone with your baked texture

Boy Lane 31. May 2009, 18:31

I've tried a SVN build 2 weeks ago and it was crap. Posted here in the comments. I'm not wasting time with it unless it gets usable.

Anonymous 10. June 2009, 14:50

Emelie Carter writes:

Hello Mr Lane!

I wanted to test your ShadowViewer. I downloaded it, done what is IMPORTANT (Notecard) but everytime i try to start, the overview for login starts, i want to login, but with at the beginning of region handshake ShadowViewer is closing itself :/

My PC Components:

CPU Intel® Core™2 Duo Prozessor E6600 (2x 2.4Ghz)
RAM 2048MB DDR2 Corsair™ Speicher PC667
Graphic512 MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 7950GT PCI-E TV-Out, DVI....
SoundOn Board
Data 320GB 7200upm SATA Samsung/WD 8MB Cache

may be u can fix this? If u have any questions, write IM!

Sincerely
Emelie Carter

Boy Lane 10. June 2009, 17:22

@Emelie
You don't have the minimum hardware requirements. I will only work with Nvidia 8xxx cards and above.

Anonymous 18. June 2009, 08:32

Ertah Grantham writes:

The viewer does not work properly for me, strangely enough I could get it to run by changing the regional settings. (, To .) But, when I try to use the projected lights, the shadows glitch like crazy, the effect is comparable to when you rezz two prims at the exact same height, and the textures differ, ending up in major glitching when moving the cam. I tried if I could fix it by altering some debug settings, but no luck. I seriously wish to use it, so I'm looking out for an update. Here's my system specs if you could use it for further bug hunting:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 2.66 GHz.
2GB DDR2 @ 800MHz.
nVidia 8800 GTX, v182.08 Drivers. (Going to update that.)
Vista Business edition, SP1.

Anonymous 18. June 2009, 08:53

Ertah Grantham writes:

It seems that updating the video drivers did not solve the issue, if anyone has an idea, please lemme know?

Boy Lane 18. June 2009, 09:51

That's old old stuff...

Anonymous 18. June 2009, 10:51

Ertah Grantham writes:

You mean my computer? Well, not everyone has spare money to buy a new computer each month... :S

Anyway, is there a way to fix the current issue I'm having, or did I miss something?

Boy Lane 18. June 2009, 12:23

No, that posting here :smile:.

I think the latest shadow builds are from Kirstenlee, please give that a try (link on the right). My ShadowViewer was not updated for weeks and uses quite old sources.

Anonymous 23. June 2009, 15:26

KDE writes:

Oddly, this viewer does not work at all for me. Installed it and ran it .. nothing. Does not even launch the viewer window, no process in task manager.

Boy Lane 23. June 2009, 16:57

@KDE
Your hardware most likely doesn't meet minimum requirements. That is Nvidia 8xxx+ or ATI HD4xxx.

Anonymous 23. June 2009, 20:34

KDE writes:

nVidia 9800GT

Boy Lane 24. June 2009, 03:12

@KDE
Using a non english Windows version? Change your regional settings to use a decimal dot (.) instead of comma (,).

Anonymous 25. June 2009, 10:39

Anonymous writes:

Windows XP, English
D:\Games\ShadowViewer\ShadowViewer.exe --channel "Cool Viewer" --settings settings_1.23.xml --set SystemLanguage en-us

Anonymous 25. June 2009, 10:42

KDE writes:

Above comment was me.
No matter how I attempt to run it, it doesn't launch.
As far as I can tell, it doesn't launch anything at all, it has no allow multiple instances to run set, so it should give an error about SL already running when I attempt to launch it with SL running in the background, but it doesn't get that far in loading, it just straight out fails to run.

Boy Lane 26. June 2009, 06:34

Last guess, is this by any chance a Athlon XP? Might be the reason that your CPU doesn't support SSE2 optimization. Other than that I can only repeat mileage varies. It works for some, not for others.

Also please note that this is by now quite old code. A more recent build may run better, but I don't have time to make viewers in the moment.

Anonymous 29. June 2009, 00:51

KDE writes:

Intel Core2 Quad CPU, it meets all requirements, I've just been trying to find alternatives to the LL viewer, since it doesn't work either.

Boy Lane 29. June 2009, 04:28

May be a driver problem then with your machine when the official viewer also doesn't work.

Anonymous 1. July 2009, 05:40

KDE writes:

No, it's a spam error message, I forgot what, cannot find some file or something I think. It's to do with configurations or something of that such. I can get (most) all other viewers to work without problems, except absolutely none of them seem to support shadows, they all crash. But, oh-well.

Anonymous 12. July 2009, 09:13

Ertah Grantham writes:

Ok, I hoped that, switching from Vista to XP could solve the glitching issue I had, but, now the whole viewer won't even start, I mean, when I double-click the desktop shortcut, it first looks like it's about to start, but then windows is like: "Um, you said something?" And nothing happens, tried clearing the folder, reinstalling, nothing works, please help? :s

Anonymous 12. July 2009, 09:15

Ertah Grantham writes:

Great, double post due to IE spasms, sorry...

Boy Lane 13. July 2009, 11:11

@Erath
I suggest you don't waste your time with this. It either works or it doesn't. It's simply too buggy and the code is quite old now. You may try a newer build from Kirstenlee (link on the right), perhaps with more success.

Anonymous 13. July 2009, 13:41

Ertah Grantham writes:

Kirsten's viewer still has no Projected Textures as far I'm aware, it's the whole reason I want your viewer to work on my system, and you seem to be the only one who has a public viewer with the Projected Textures feature. :(

Anonymous 21. August 2009, 15:14

Anonymous writes:

DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS PROGRAM
VIRUS DETECTED!

Detection Type: Trojan
Detection Names: Artemis!B29B138E10C7
File Name: C:\PROGRAM FILES\SHADOWVIEWER\UPDATE.EXE
File Name: C:\USERS\ADMIN\APPDATA\LOCAL\MICROSOFT\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY\INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5\8PS6SOLQ\SHADOWVIEWER_1-23-0-116519_SETUP.EXE

Boy Lane 21. August 2009, 15:48

@Anonymous
There is no virus in the viewer, and the "trojan" in the update.exe is a well known and by LL documented false positive.
https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/technology/release/blog/2009/04

I suggest you get yourself a properly working Antivirus program before spreading FUD hiding behind anonymity :smile:. You probably use AVG which is plagued by wrong detections. Comodo Internet Security is a good (and free) choice.

Anonymous 25. August 2009, 22:13

phox writes:

i second on that boylane another segestion would also be avast. it's also fast and free to use.

Anonymous 27. August 2009, 12:42

Axaes Xandal writes:

Oh gaawwd!:-))) Greed is vile:-)))

Great I thought, Boy has done a Shadow Viewer for Linux, yeaahhh! Really wanted to try it out, FINALLY and can't even unzip the little grrrrr in Ubuntu Jaunty, ARRRRRRGHHHH. Sorry;-))

I installed 7zip as instructed. The archive manager of Ubuntu seems to do something, but it just dublicates the zipped file withouth the ".001" ending. The dublicate then can't be unzipped and produces following error when I try to decompress it on the console:

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
:~/downloads$ p7zip -d ShadowViewer-i686-1.23.0-R2-Linux.7z

7-Zip (A) 4.58 beta Copyright (c) 1999-2008 Igor Pavlov 2008-05-05
p7zip Version 4.58 (locale=en_US.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,2 CPUs)

Processing archive: ShadowViewer-i686-1.23.0-R2-Linux.7z

Error: Can not open file as archive
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


Like I said, this is _after_ I have unzipped the initial file with the archive manager of ubuntu, and try to unzip the dublicate on the konsole.

If I try to unzip the dublicate with the archive manager of Ubuntu, I get this error:

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
7-Zip (A) 4.58 beta Copyright (c) 1999-2008 Igor Pavlov 2008-05-05
p7zip Version 4.58 (locale=en_US.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,2 CPUs)

Error: /home/anna/downloads/ShadowViewer-i686-1.23.0-R2-Linux.7z is not supported archive

Errors: 1
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

I actually have an infoboard about 7zip with the terrain freebies in OSGrid/Ironforge, so Windows people can unzip Linux native tar.gz - Terrains if they don't want to use Winzip which is actually not "freeware". (That's why it nags all the time.)

However right now I feel like kicking Igor Pavlov in the nuts, WHY WHY WHY must someone use intelligence to be able to use his unzipper. It's compressing....extracting. It should be like washing hands.

Whoopsie got a little ranty there, I apologize.

Boy, I assume you use Igors format because it compresses more densely so you can pack it onto Opera? I don't know what the file limit is here, but are you aware of http://www.box.net/ ? They have a limit of 25MB per file for the gratis service, so 50MB should be enough to compress the Linux Viewer in tar.gz or such which will not club you over the head.



Anonymous 27. August 2009, 13:43

Axaes Xandal writes:

Update: Just out of interest I actually went to my Windows-XP box, installed 7zip and the first file decompressed, the second one faulted with the same error I get in both files under Ubuntu.

I then downloaded the Windows version, forgetting that I have an old 5200 FX card in there:-))

My last option now to compile the sucker from source, however is there a small HowTo you Boy or someone else who's done it for Ubuntu could post? (i.e. which software needs to be installed and what steps to take)

Boy Lane 27. August 2009, 16:56

@Axaes
Just install 7-zip with "sudo apt-get install p7zip". Then it should work. What you write sounds like you try to compress it again rather than unpack. Make sure you have both archive files in the same directory and the right permissions tho.

Anyway, this is stoneage stuff here and I do not actually recommend it to use anymore :wink:. Newer downloads are now on googlecode, although not this one, because it is stoneage :smile:

Anonymous 27. August 2009, 22:33

Axaes Xandal writes:

Hello Boy, yes I had installed p7zip and no, the unpacking fails. It fails on two different PCs with different operating systems, allthough in XP I was able to at least uncompress one file.

However, if this is legacy, what do you mean with "Googlecode"? Are you saying there are new and improved Shadow-capable viewers out? Where?

Allexander Morgridge 6. September 2009, 09:19

Hi
Tried to download Shadow Viewer, get a virus warning at about 90% of D/L. I use Avast and it identifies a worm. -(

Allex

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