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I've never actually been concerned with whether or not the Simon Necronomicon was "real" or not. It may just have been an invention based in part on ancient Sumerian ceremonies and a bit of Lovecraft. However in my experiance, how a tome comes to be is something less important as the information it containes, after all, the Bible is simply said to be the "Inspired" word of God, its not like God handed down to mankind a completed work and said "follow it" now did he

Whether Christ did, or did not live, has nothing at all to do with what the churches teach, or with what people want to believe, It is simply a matter of evidence. This question must be settled in the court of historical criticism. If the thinking world is to hold to the position that Jesus was a real person there must be sufficient evidence to warrant that belief. If no evidence for his existence can be found, he will have to take his place with the host of other demigods whose lives and deeds make up the mythology of the world.

1. The Bible and other religious texts. Biblical Scholars state that Mark was written some time after the year 70, Luke about 110, Matthew about 130, and John not earlier than 140 A.D. The first historical mention of the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke, was made by the Christian Father, St. Irenaeus, about the year 190 A.D. The only earlier mention of any of the Gospels was made by Theopholis of Antioch, who mentioned the Gospel of John in 180 A.D. Jesus is supposed to have been a Jew, and his disciples are said to have been Jewish fishermen. His language, and the language of his followers was Aramaic. But the Gospels are written in Greek, EVERY ONE of them. They were not translations from Aramaic or some other language. Every leading Christian scholar since Erasmus, four hundred years ago, has maintained that they were originally written in Greek. This proves that they were not written by Christ's disciples, or by any of the early Christians. Foreign Gospels, written by unknown men, in a foreign tongue, several generations after the death of those who are supposed to have known the facts, such is the biblical evidence.

1a. The Talmud, all the Talmudic text about Jesus was written some 300 years after the "life and death" of Jesus.

2. Other Texts, Josephus - The historian made no mention of Jesus and for two hundred years after the death of Josephus, the name of Jesus did not appear in his history. For more than two hundred years, the Christian Fathers who were familiar with the works of Josephus knew nothing of this passage. Had the passage been in the works of Josephus which they knew, Justin Martyr, Tertullian, Origen an Clement of Alexandria would have been eager to hurl it at their Jewish opponents in their many controversies. But it did not exist. Origen, who knew his Josephus well, expressly affirmed that Jesus had not been acknowledged. We know know that the Christian Father Eusebius, the first historian of Christianity, early in the fourth century; edited Josephus' works. Eusebius, OPENLY advocated fraud in the interest of the faith, and is also known to have tampered with the works several other writers. The Encyclopaedia Britannica, says: "That Josephus wrote the whole passage as it now stands no sane critic can believe." Bishop Warburton denounced it as "a rank forgery and a very stupid one, too." Chambers' Encyclopaedia says: "The famous passage of Josephus is generally conceded to be an interpolation."

2a. Philo, one of the most renowned writers the Jewish people, was born before the beginning of the Christian Era, and lived for many years after the time at which Jesus is supposed to have died. His home was in Jerusalem, where Jesus is said to have preached, to have performed miracles, to have been crucified, and to have risen from the dead. Had Jesus done these things, the writings of Philo would certainly contain some record of his life. Yet this philosopher, who must have been familiar with Herod's massacre of the innocents, and with the preaching, miracles and death of Jesus, had these things occurred; who wrote an account of the Jews, covering this period, and discussed the very questions that are said to have been near to Christ's heart, never once mentioned the name of, or any deed connected with, the reputed Savior of the world.

2b. This is a list of forty-two writers who lived and wrote during the time or within a century after the time, of Jesus, not one of whom ever mentioned him.

Josephus, Philo-Judaeus, Seneca, Pliny the Elder, Suetonius, Juvenal Martial, Persius, Plutarch, Justus of Tiberius, Apollonius, Pliny the Younger, Tacitus, Quintilian, Lucanus, Epictetus, Silius Italicus, Statius, Ptolemy, Hermogones, Valerius Maximus, Arrian, Petronius, Dion Pruseus, Paterculus, Appian, Theon of Smyrna, Phlegon, Pompon Mela, Quintius Curtius, Lucian, Pausanias, Valerius Flaccus, Florus Lucius, Favorinus, Phaedrus, Damis, Aulus Gellius, Columella, Dio Chrysostom, Lysias, Appion of Alexandria

Conclusion: No one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. Devastating to historians, there occurs not a single contemporary writing that mentions Jesus. All documents about Jesus were written well after the life of the alleged Jesus from either: unknown authors, people who had never met an earthly Jesus, or from fraudulent, mythical or allegorical writings.

Fact is, the Man never existed.

First of all let me state that I do believe in God, just not world religious views of God. I am not a Christian and I do not believe the Bible to be any more than one more spiritual book of many. In fact, I look at the Bible as more of a guide then even a spiritual book. If you actually knew the history of what most people today call the "Bible", you would be very suprised indeed.

Anyway, the reason for my post. In May of this year a Museum opened in Petersburg, Kentucky that spews forth so many inaccuracies that even other Christian groups have denounced it teachings and assertions. The museum makes statements about the origins of the universe, life, mankind, and man's early history according to a literal reading of the book of Genesis. It asserts that the planet is just a few thousand years old (6,000) and that man and dinosaurs once coexisted amoung other blanket mistruths.

I have only one thing to say about this whole topic and it has already been stated:

Because God created the earth, we should be able to look at His creation, and determine its age. After all, if God is truth, and He created the world, then the world will truthfully tell it’s age when we examine it. When scientists examine God’s creation, it gives overwhelming evidence that it is billions of years old, therefore that must be the truth… after all, God’s creation cannot lie.

I believe in Science and I believe in God.. I see no conflict what-so-ever. The Bible is a book, your relationship with God is personal and it does not depend on anyones interpretation, it does not depend on a book rewritten so many times it bares almost no resemblance to the original teachings and it most certiantly does not depend on a Museum.

Oh I wont debate this. I have done that too many times to even be interested so dont bother wasting the bandwidth.

Nuff Said