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Originally posted by EspenAO:

Are you using Opera Unite?

Nope.

Yes I am! It is great technology, I enjoy it a lot.

Originally posted by Tamil:

Nope.

Why?

No, I have apache, iis, dropbox, github, and lots of other sharing/web serving tools already.

I'm waiting for the final version. Oh, and please, fix that memory leak in current stable Opera!

Trying it out

Originally posted by fearphage:

No, I have apache, iis, dropbox, github, and lots of other sharing/web serving tools already.

you may use apache only if u have public ip. Unite alows you to host your web also when you are behind the proxy or when you share set of ips with others in the lan network (campus f.e.).
Dropbox is nice, but you are giving them your files, when unite synchronization will be ready, you will be only owner of your files. Till than, you may use file inbox service with combination of the file sharing service, as I do.
The best on the unite is the fact, that your files remain yours. You do not have to put your files to the 3rd party (even when you trust them (facebook, myspace, rapidshare)).

Originally posted by kubm:

The best on the unite is the fact, that your files remain yours. You do not have to put your files to the 3rd party (even when you trust them (facebook, myspace, rapidshare)).

If I'm sharing files, then obviously they are not private or secret. I wouldn't use unite for sensitive data transmission as it's unencrypted and it travels through opera's proxy servers. I'm quite aware of what unite is and does. It just serves no purpose for me personally. I'm not putting down the technology but it's just not for me. I don't believe I am a member of the target audience for Unite.

not yet

Originally posted by fearphage:

If I'm sharing files, then obviously they are not private or secret.

Originally posted by kubm:

that your files remain yours.

well, you're right, I've forgot to mention that files remain yours and those people, you've given access.

Originally posted by fearphage:

I wouldn't use unite for sensitive data transmission as it's unencrypted

And would you use the dropbox for it?

Originally posted by fearphage:

and it travels through opera's proxy servers.

well, I trust them (you got me in this one)

Originally posted by fearphage:

I don't believe I am a member of the target audience for Unite.

Well, since you may use apache and iis to host your web, I guess you have that public IP I was talking about, you do not need unite. (Am I right about that public IP?)

A lot of talk how/why use Opera Unite. I don't see it as either you are an Opera Unite user or you're not, it's more based on the situation (at least for me).

It's easy to chat with someone and have all the tools available for sharing photos, music, or files instead of uploading them to my a server or a third party site.

That's how I use Opera Unite.

Originally posted by kubm:

And would you use the dropbox for it?

Yes, it is encrypted. Also it is a password-per-user basis instead of a one-password-for-all paradigm.

Originally posted by kubm:

Well, since you may use apache and iis to host your web, I guess you have that public IP I was talking about, you do not need unite. (Am I right about that public IP?)

Not exactly. I have access to lots of web servers and domains with public ips. I personally never have a public IP. I use apache and iis for local development.

Originally posted by EspenAO:

It's easy to chat with someone and have all the tools available for sharing photos, music, or files instead of uploading them to my a server or a third party site.

Opera has an irc client to chat with people too. MyOpera has albums to share photos and don't forget flickr, twitpic, etc. I just don't see why I would need a temporary web server especially tied to my web browser. Again, I'm not saying it's a bad idea. It's just not for me. The only thing that's a bad idea from my perspective is that it's yet another thing tied to the browser. Lots of good ideas come out of opera (m2 for instance), I just hate that they are all irrevocably bound to the browser.

Does that IRC client have a dice rolling app attached? IS this Unite slowing the browser down, or making it heavier on the system?

Originally posted by EspenAO:

Are you using Opera Unite?

Since it came out!

There should be a Unite Application development contest before the final release or shortly after.

Originally posted by fearphage:

I just hate that they are all irrevocably bound to the browser.

I love to see things irrevocably bound to the browser.

dont like a different app for everything, we all know that for sharing other stuff besides harmless things like family/friends photos,a song, a casual chat, a file ALL ON THE RUSH ! (using the browser ! thats d4mn innovative) other means exist.

Hail Opera !

Originally posted by fearphage:

Opera has an irc client to chat with people too. MyOpera has albums to share photos and don't forget flickr, twitpic, etc.

Yes, and Opera Unite offers you an alternative to these things, where you are in control.

Originally posted by fearphage:

I have access to lots of web servers and domains with public ips.

I (will) use opera unite to host my own pages, 'cause I don't have access as you do (oh, well, there is appengine and some free hostings, but...)

Originally posted by fearphage:

I use apache and iis for local development.

Ofc, but i think unite is not targeted for this, though it can be used this way too.

Originally posted by fearphage:

I just hate that they are all irrevocably bound to the browser.

Now I am surprised that u are using opera because as

Originally posted by shaktiIIIgta:

dont like a different app for everything

I cant agree more. I love i have my email in one program, and I am not forced to have another program running.

Originally posted by haavard:

Yes, and Opera Unite offers you an alternative to these things, where you are in control.

These are words I was looking for

@fearphage Each person has different taste, and Opera matches mine If unite doesn't match yours, I can't convince you to use it. It is just an another option Cheers

Originally posted by kubm:

Each person has different taste, and Opera matches mine. If unite doesn't match yours, I can't convince you to use it.

I agree. To each his/her own.

Originally posted by kubm:

I (will) use opera unite to host my own pages, 'cause I don't have access as you do (oh, well, there is appengine and some free hostings, but...)

Essentially I think Unite is fulfilling a service that is just not useful to me at this point. I don't have the desire to host a temporary server. If I want someone to access my pictures, music, or leave me notes, i don't want them to lose access to this functionality because I'm on a plane or not in wifi range. The most annoying thing for me is seeing links to unite and clicking them only to find the user is offline or disconnected. It literally took months for me to actual hit an active unite server after launch. That's incredibly annoying to me. This experience has and continues to sour the functionality for me. The volatile nature is my turn off.

Originally posted by shaktiIIIgta:

dont like a different app for everything

I'm a little more extreme. I'm more concerned with getting the "bang for my buck". I essentially would rather spend less cpu+ram and get more features out of it. Again: different strokes for different folks.

Originally posted by haavard:

Yes, and Opera Unite offers you an alternative to these things, where you are in control.

If Opera is concerned about me/end users being in control, i have this idea for an extension api that maybe we can look into.

An extensions API won't give you control over your own data. You are comparing apples and oranges.

Originally posted by haavard:

An extensions API won't give you control over your own data

Actually, I could make an FTP/SVN/GIT server or whatever I wanted depending on the breadth of the extensions API so that is not 100% factual. I was speaking about putting control of the browser and each user's browsing experience in their own hands. If that's the kind of control opera is concerned about, i was just pitching a valid option out there for you.

You can set up your own servers today without extensions. They exist as separate applications. But Unite makes it easier than ever.

Now, Unite is about your data, not your browser. You control your own data. Extensions are a completely different discussion, and not relevant here.

If it come to stable release i will try the Unite. Now i won't spell too much time for this feature.

I am using Opera Unite (OU), because I think, that it has a good future. A small problem is that there are too less visitors. A big problem is that I could make my applications public, but OU want a password. This is a stupid bug and I hope that someone changes that before OU gets released.

My applications: Media Player, File/Photo Sharing, Fridge, Lounge, Sonar, File Uploader.
http://home.jonas92.operaunite.com/
Sorry, that you can't see a lot.

Yes, I'm using it; yet I don't have many people who to share things with... They aren't familiar with the idea behind this... yet.

Have been runnig unite for a while now, and i am agree with jonas92. I think this may be the future. Only problem i've got is running slideshow in Jalbum on my webserver. My site is here:
http://home.knutron.operaunite.com/.

Ok, now you can see some more things...but it is not so much...

Opera unit very convenient!!!

I find it very useful however, Is there any way for me to set up apache for the webserver thing?

Originally posted by Chasingu:

set up apache for the webserver thing

there is web proxy application, however it has been some time since it was updated. According to the comments, it doesn't show images properly. We may only hope, javer will upgrade it, or smbd else will create something better.

Oh, I've forgotten to post link to my stuff in my first comment. You cannot see much however.

they look really good but im worried that it will just be an added bloat.

can anyone confirm its resource usage?

YES!!I like it

Nope I don't need it. In my opinion Unite is a little like an answer looking for a question.
On a side note, I do not agree with integrating the tools in the browser. Unite should be an add-on for those who need it.

OMG just another new feature to slow down the second fastest browser available (the first, in my opinion, the first is google chrome).

I agree with lorenzoCelsi, integrating tools in the browser is a bad idea.

All I expect from a web browser is a web browser, as fast and good as possible.

The other features (unite, bittorrent, mail, chat, etc.) should be separate programs, maybe installed from a single "Opera Suite Installer" or something.

^^-1 to your idea, but that is a different discussion.

I tried it when it first came out, but had issues when behind proxies and firewalls. I'll give it another try when it's more mature and out of beta testing.

I have been using it for some time now...it's pretty good. I enjoy it. Also, I am glad that it's still in beta because it could use a little more work.

I've been using it for 2 days and it's cool. I will invite my friends soon...

I use opera 4.2.

for sure . its really good for my school work !

I'm trying to use it, but some bugs make wait for next beta. Alpha stage was more usable to me. However I like it a lot. I think the web proxy application + some private server could be very useful.
File sharing and file inbox are the most interesting apps to me.

@mjerez
Please be sure to report those bugs.

yep. Already commented in forum, and reported as bug. It's strange it happened to me in two differents systems: XP in my desktop and a flavor of Ubuntu in my netbook. The same exact problem, but looks like very few people has problems like this.

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Originally posted by Chas4:

I can tell you he use Opera, but might not use Unite