Opera News

Wow opera must be a little cup of tea wit a big surgar in it. Yeah dats wat i'm talken about.. kudos 2u all opera officials 4 compressing u all in one little cup.

Sounds like m2 is going to be improved... or should we expect a better operamail service?

The first thing I thought after reading the title was:
"hey 'operamail.com', wil be upgraded "

I was actually about to get a paid account with FastMail, I have a free one right now, so should I wait or just go ahead and get it now?
After reading other stuff I see it's gonna be generally the same. Nice acquisition though.

Fantastic. Then you could start strip Opera for it's less needed features. Mail, RSS, IRC, Bittorrents (and Widgets!) are better used with stand alone applications in my opinion. There are so many good mail, torrent and irc clients that the built in features are unnecessary.

Any chance we'll see an Opera Lite version in the future?

that means operamail will be back again, right?

M2, chat and opera mail will be improved... ninja improved


well sounds like that the way to go...



calendar, and now this...


hope this will be ready very soon...

Khm, they currently provide 10mb for free and will delete me after 45 days of inactivity, plus ads. Bad service! Using GMail.

Great great Opera!! yummy!

well... I have fingers crossed for Opera, but do you want to be competitor to Gmail? well, not sure, but good luck...

I would focus more on M2 and maybe calendar with nice task manager... this is still part of program, i can manage evetyhing through one program, but providing webmail services is totally out of core business...FOCUS

Originally posted by freerider:

webmail services is totally out of core business

not really, with 4 million users of my opera... def webmail can use a lift, and M2 too...calendar is coming and some more features im positive about that...

Good. Maybe I can stop worring about filling up my 3 MB limit on my operamail account every other day.

I hope there will be some rename and a nice @omail.com address. Please, give us more information.

I use both fastmail and operamail, but only as secondary emails. Fastmail I really liked the web interface and it was fast. Operamail because I like Opera.

Suggestions:
1. Provide POP or IMAP access for free. I prefer to keep my email local (with Thunderbird or M2), plus a local client gives me a chance to work email when not connected. (No, I do not have access all the time.)
2. Let me manage a couple free accounts easily. I like to keep my different volunteer groups separated, with different addresses.
3. For the web access, keep is simple. All the advertising on Yahoo turns me off, and takes away from my screen area.
4. I do not integrate my calendar and email, but I know a lot of people do. Even at work with Outlook, I do not use them as one app. So continue to support users like me, please. (Again, I use a local calendar client, Sunbird, because of Internet access limits and distrust of cloud storage.)

My favorite e-mail service and browser together!

Pls is there away i can put my vedeo in opera link. My girl friend needs my vedeo.

Originally posted by Lucky:

My girl friend needs my vedeo.

You can put the video in My Page>File on the top of the My Opera site (this site). Then send the link to your girl.

Realy

Originally posted by Lucky:

Realy

Yup, try it.

Ok daniel tanks i gat 2 sleep nw its 12:50pm down here. Gd 9nt pal.

Anders totally lost the game. I use all of those things through Opera because I've had too much trouble with other programs.

And in Windows 7 Starter, you can only run a few applications at one time. Having so many things in one place is GREAT for netbook owners.

Originally posted by andjac:

Then you could start strip Opera for it's less needed features.

Nope! If anything, those features will just be improved even more!

Originally posted by Aux:

Khm, they currently provide 10mb for free and will delete me after 45 days of inactivity, plus ads. Bad service! Using GMail.

Bad service? FM has one of the best reputations in the business. Also, Gmail has ads. So are you a hypocrite?

Originally posted by freerider:

providing webmail services is totally out of core business...FOCUS

Then you clearly don't understand Opera's business. Read the press release. Hint: Opera has a lot of business customers.

Well I have a 5 year Enhanced Fastmail account and I sure hope that doesn’t change as it is without a doubt the best email account/service I have ever had. Fastmail service has always been outstanding; I hope it stays that way. Actually I expect it will with Opera.

Thank you.

Jim

Originally posted by prd3:

Originally posted by freerider:

providing webmail services is totally out of core business...FOCUS

Then you clearly don't understand Opera's business. Read the press release. Hint: Opera has a lot of business customers.

thanks for your comment. I know that Opera has a lot of business customers, but primary goal is to provide great web-browser with all the features which make my web life better..providing e-mail services is absolutely new way and this will move opera to different category of companies(not just web-browsers anymore)

Originally posted by freerider:

providing e-mail services is absolutely new way

Actually, it isn't. Opera currently has operamail.com, and the browser has a built in email-client, they are finally going to improve it now

well...operamail.com is just small message service primary for opera community user, to be honest not very competitive with gmail.com etc

built-in mail client is still part of web experience for opera user...integrated in Opera desktop.

so i mean that providing real competitive web mail services is new way... (i hope good one)

Opera so need to tie its existing myopera storage with a web email account, that would be awesome.

Originally posted by chooseopera:

Feel free to ask any questions you may have as a comment below. We will try to answer them in a separate post at a later stage.

Will it be renamed to Omail? (I hope so; please write the informational blog post soon)

I just signed up for the service in its current state and I must say that I'm not very impressed with it. The over all feel of the service could use a huge amount of simplification. However, I suspect this is not why it was purchased, probably for the backend performance and stability.

Few things right off the bat that I have to suggest:
1. Registration is cluttered and overly complicated when compared to competitor services.
2. Activation via my "current email address" was a mess, telling me that an error had occurred and my session had expired. Trying a second activation link from the same email suggested that it had already been successfully activated.
3. I like Daniel's idea...Omail would be cool.

Will the inbox space be increased to compare to current offers from hotmail, yahoo and gmail? The basic 10mb doesn't seem very appealing.

Originally posted by Kyle Baker:

2. Activation via my "current email address" was a mess, telling me that an error had occurred and my session had expired. Trying a second activation link from the same email suggested that it had already been successfully activated.

I had the same problem, the second link in the e-mail made it work though.

Originally posted by Kyle Baker:

1. Registration is cluttered and overly complicated when compared to competitor services.

Agreed, needs tons of simplification.

Originally posted by Kyle Baker:

3. I like Daniel's idea...Omail would be cool.

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=551401

Wow, this is definitely great news! I will start now imagining all the possibilities of sync between fastmail and M2

Originally posted by freerider:

thanks for your comment. I know that Opera has a lot of business customers, but primary goal is to provide great web-browser with all the features which make my web life better..providing e-mail services is absolutely new way and this will move opera to different category of companies(not just web-browsers anymore)

Wrong.

You clearly did not even bother to read Opera's own statements.

Opera hasn't been doing "just web browsers" for ages.

Originally posted by DanielHendrycks:

Will it be renamed to Omail?

Please, no. Don't call it "Omail". That's the worst name I have heard all year.

What does this mean for Operamail? Will it be upgraded?

Originally posted by intergalacticninja:

What does this mean for Operamail? Will it be upgraded?

Maybe we will see in time

Originally posted by prd3:

Please, no. Don't call it "Omail". That's the worst name I have heard all year.

Originally posted by prd3:

Bad service? FM has one of the best reputations in the business. Also, Gmail has ads. So are you a hypocrite?

Go to Settings -> Webclips and uncheck Show my web clips above the Inbox. Voila! Ads dissappeared!

I don't know anything about FM service, hearing about it for the first time. So I don't see how they can be any good. Currently I only see that they offer only 10MB of storage for mail. 10MB? Are they joking? This is a size of ONE photo from my very old 6MPX DSLR. Modern cameras generate even larger files.

10MB = LOL. You can't even catch a photo. Great service!

I have been using fastmail.fm since it's inception, that's 10+ years. Since then, I have tried out every other free service that came along, and none compares to FastMail! In fact, most of the other services failed.

FastMail has a huge following, mainly by power users who want full control of their mail service and now storage/gallery experience. That's primarily why some of you guys never heard of them.

They are not trying to compete with google or yahoo, therefore, the 10MB free account is more than enough. I have an enhanced account with 8.6Gigs of mail storage and 2gigs of file storage. I can create websites/galleries/share files (securely) and so on. I also own a few sites and FM can host my mx record and serve my emails for those domains if i choose to.

I think people need to educate themselves more before they start rambling and flaming while building monuments of nothingness...

Originally posted by prd3:

Opera hasn't been doing "just web browsers" for ages.

Well technically, Opera's audited tax filings EXPLICITLY stated that Opera provides one product ("the browser"), irrelevant of specific features offered on different platforms. If Opera now owns Fastmail and draws income from existing FM subscriptions, this changes things. Coincidentally, Opera bought a mobile advertising company too. The company has decided to branch its commercial offerings within these last few months.

Perhaps the FM backend is more mobile-friendly? Possibly a new version of Mini will include APIs for interfacing with email in a dedicated menu item? There is much promise to be found in Opera's newest assets.

Originally posted by hellspork:

Well technically, Opera's audited tax filings EXPLICITLY stated that Opera provides one product ("the browser")

Except Opera has several products.

Originally posted by Aux:

Go to Settings -> Webclips and uncheck Show my web clips above the Inbox. Voila! Ads dissappeared!

Those are not the only ads in Gmail.

I don't know anything about FM service, hearing about it for the first time. So I don't see how they can be any good.

Maybe because they haven't spent a lot of money on advertising. But anyone who has a clue about email servicess will tell you that it's one of the bet.

Currently I only see that they offer only 10MB of storage for mail. 10MB? Are they joking? This is a size of ONE photo from my very old 6MPX DSLR. Modern cameras generate even larger files.

So? Feel free to pay for more.

10MB = LOL. You can't even catch a photo. Great service!

Yes, it's a great service. Just because it has a different business model than other email providers doesn't mean that it isn't great.

Educate yourself instead of spewing nonsense.

That's one thing I don't understand. Why send rich-text, heavily formatted emails filled with giant images in the first place? If you must share full-rez photos, use a hosting solution like your account on this very site! 2GB are a lot to play with. And you can set album access rights.

In a better world, 10MB should be plenty large for an inbox.

PRD3: Fiscal year 2008, Opera only provided "the browser" to its many customers, and all income was derived from operations pertaining to "the browser". (This was clarified for tax reasons) The audited filings for 2009 should reflect the same message, judging from quarterly reports. Depending on HOW Opera absorbs these other companies, 2010 may show a new metric on the balance sheet.

I've been a paying Fastmail customer for a couple of years now, not trusting the Gmails of the world with something as important as e-mail. I even run my DNS admin through Fastmail. Never a problem and looking forward to seeing what the Norwegians bring to the table.

Originally posted by prd3:

Those are not the only ads in Gmail.

Never seen others.

Originally posted by prd3:

So? Feel free to pay for more.

But why? If I would like to pay for email service, then I would pay Google instead.

Originally posted by vehemeni:

I can create websites/galleries/share files (securely) and so on.

I can do all that with Google. Also I can create Office documents, I have my calendar and contacts there, I can create simple web sites or use App Engine for advanced ones. YouTube, Picassa, Google Code, Maps, Groups and so on - everything you need is Google. And best point - all that goodness is syncronised with my Android device and my desktops. For free. With lots of space. Lots of CPU/RAM/traffic (for Google Apps Engine). Lots of everything.

So what can FM give me for their price?

Well, let's hope Opera Software will become Google's competitor...

Originally posted by Aux:

So what can FM give me for their price?

How about a seriously cool implementation of OTP (One Time Passwords) and YubiKey support.

Originally posted by stanley:

providing webmail services is totally out of core business...FOCUS

I'm a long-time Fastmail user, and I'm sure that Fastmail's focus will be email, as it always has been. You can trust that Opera spent money only to get what it needed. The two entities can still focus on what they do best, Fastmail doesn't need any hand-holding. Things were fine without Opera. OTOH, as Opera and Fastmail combine users both will probably gain additional cross-users. E.G., I never cared about puny Opera before, now I have considered trying it.

Originally posted by Aux:

So what can FM give me for their price?

Reliability (uptime) which beats Gmail soundly.

Originally posted by hellspork:

Fiscal year 2008, Opera only provided "the browser" to its many customers, and all income was derived from operations pertaining to "the browser". (This was clarified for tax reasons) The audited filings for 2009 should reflect the same message, judging from quarterly reports. Depending on HOW Opera absorbs these other companies, 2010 may show a new metric on the balance sheet.

And yet they don't just do browsers. That is a fact.

Originally posted by Aux:

Never seen others.

Then you evidently don't actually USE Gmail. They are right there when you open an email.

Originally posted by Aux:

But why? If I would like to pay for email service, then I would pay Google instead.

Good for you. Others choose to pay FastMail. FM has more options, better customer service, is more flexible, etc.

Originally posted by Aux:

I can do all that with Google.

And Google can mine all your data and sell it to advertises. Great!