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Web Browser Grand Prix 2, Linux Edition

By Aleksander AasAleksander. Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:58:19 PM

The last review from Tom's Hardware generated a lot of interest. This time around they have tested both on Windows and Linux, and once again Opera comes out strong.

In total Opera scores well, but due to the way they test page loading and some controversy over Dromaeo Opera just missed the top spot. Have no fear though, Opera will fight back in the next round!

Check out Tom's Hardware for the full review, and don't forget to proclaim your love for Opera in the comments!

This makes Opera 10.60 for Windows the overall and speed-only winner when matched against the top five Web browsers for Windows and the top three in Linux.

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Abhinavdecodedthought # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:04:11 PM

Erik Shikerinerikshi # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:10:59 PM

Originally posted by that site:

Unfortunately, when you remove memory and standards testing, Chrome loses four of its victories.

Unfortunately

berend ytsmaytsmabeer # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:16:22 PM

A solid second place, I like it.
Now let's go for the top

Kai OckendorfOckendorf # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:49:51 PM

very nice

Have no fear though, Opera will fight back in the next round!

....10.61, 10.70, 11??

Charles SchlossChas4 # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:54:16 PM

Tamil # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:58:36 PM

Avola # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:58:38 PM

"Gratulerer"

Artur „Jurgi” JurgawkaJurgi # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:13:13 PM

Keep it up.

dirkthetomster # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:22:13 PM

lucideer # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:30:23 PM

Originally posted by Erik Shikerin:

Originally posted by that site:
Unfortunately, when you remove memory and standards testing, Chrome loses four of its victories.
Unfortunately

If you remove only the memory tests though, Opera (seems to) come out on top (I think...). Given that both of the memory tests are just as bad as they were last time (neither test memory management in any meaningful way)...

Vasudevan Mvasuwrath # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:34:09 PM

netwolf # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:32:23 PM

but due to the way they test page loading

Wouldn't it be more honest to say "due to a bug in Opera which the test exposed..." (as you did when the previous test results were released)?

btw: another great opportunity that's lost, as the bug is still not fixed.
You couldn't have said 'thank you' to the testers for helping find the bug, and fix it ASAP.
But no, you blame the test setup instead...

Syedheartreaper # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:57:04 PM

I dont care whatever any one says. I love opera and that's it.

Cutting Spoonhellspork # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:46:10 PM

Will there be another weekend snapshot? Very happy to see that someone at Tom's is motivated to test again so soon.

Rafael Luikrafaelluik # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:56:39 PM

So Opera wins in 5 categories and is weak in 2.
Google Chrome wins in 4 categories and is weak in 2.
But Google Chrome wins and Opera step at three (last position)!?
Reason: the author uses Google Chrome as stated here and presumably Linux. He wanted Google Chrome win in Linux after saying Opera won in Windows.

IKoke # Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:42:36 PM

Very bad Memory Management

ErikshaktiIIIgta # Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:17:47 AM

its really enjoyable when you browse the web with Opera, nice looks, nice page loading... maybe will manage memory better next time
you 'feel' when a page is coded messy

go Opera !

Cutting Spoonhellspork # Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:38:24 AM

Well there was no low-memory test or mixed-applications test. This was a straight redux of the previous test, with vanilla Ubuntu in place of vanilla Win7.

d4rkn1ght # Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:53:27 AM

praetor87 # Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:09:27 AM

If you want save memory try to disable the plugins (flash, java, etc.).

Erik Shikerinerikshi # Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:55:14 AM

We ( or most of us) now live in a time where 50 MB extra RAM conusmption, or even 100 MB RAM, isn't really an issue. Running Opera while running other programs will probably not slow down your system unless you have under 2 GB RAM. In which case you might want a new computer

j/k, Opera just lags a few tens of MB behind, and this shouldn't really be a problem.

Anyhow, Opera probably uses more memory because is has more features. Unite, Mail, Link, Widgets...

In today's world, browsers actually have another 100 MB RAM to take before deemed resource-craving, imo.

Although, I do see the fact that some people might have older computers - and in that case you might want to switch off 50% of all features, and run Opera like FireFox, just with 50% more features instead of 100

EVEN if Opera makes your PC go slow, you end up being more productive because of all the shortcuts and productivity boosts.

And all in all using Opera rather than FF is worth trading 100 MB RAM consumption for.

What I'd really love to see in Opera would be a "resource mod", like Turbo for your RAM. We did it for connections, we can do it for CPUs and RAM units!

What if you hit a button, and Opera goes low-consumption. All plugins go off, except for the ones you are using. well, stuff like that.

Opera all the way!

prd3 # Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:42:12 AM

How can Chrome win when Opera has more 1st places? That's just retarded. Tom's Failware fails again.

prd3 # Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:44:51 AM

Originally posted by netwolf:

btw: another great opportunity that's lost, as the bug is still not fixed.
You couldn't have said 'thank you' to the testers for helping find the bug, and fix it ASAP.
But no, you blame the test setup instead...

What on earth are you talking about?

Why would Opera rush out a fix for a completely irrelevant issue like that? It would make them look very stupid to basically treat something that doesn't even affect people as a security issue!

Opera did the right thing. You are just trolling.

prd3 # Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:46:10 AM

Originally posted by erikshi:

Opera probably uses more memory because is has more features. Unite, Mail, Link, Widgets...

Nope. Those features don't use a noticeable amount of memory unless you actually use them.

Opera uses "more" memory because it increases performance. It's by design.

Erik Shikerinerikshi # Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:46:13 AM

troll one more post, and I'll have you banned for trolling.

Erik Shikerinerikshi # Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:47:29 AM

Originally posted by prd3:

Opera uses "more" memory because it increases performance. It's by design.

I'm embarrassed. Great point, though

Erik Shikerinerikshi # Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:48:42 AM

but essentially, you do agree with me?

prd3 # Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:51:53 AM

Not really. Opera uses less RAM on old computers because it adapts itself to the amount of available memory. You can already change various settings to make it use "less".

Avola # Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:11:18 PM

Originally posted by prd3:

How can Chrome win when Opera has more 1st places? That's just retarded. Tom's Failware fails again.

"After you throw out non-speed tests, Opera has two wins above overall-winner Google Chrome. Unfortunately, Opera has five more losses than Google, too. Chrome also holds onto 11 second-place finishes, crowning Google's browser as the speed king on Linux."
Stop being so overly defensive prd3.

lucideer # Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:16:36 PM

Originally posted by netwolf:

Wouldn't it be more honest to say "due to a bug in Opera which the test exposed..." (as you did when the previous test results were released)?

No not really. It's more a bug in the test than a bug in Opera. A comment posted on the previous "Grand Prix" test said that Opera is getting such high results because it is identifying sections of the test that produce no output, and skipping them. If it can do this with real world web-pages (identify useless code that isn't producing anything and skip it) then that would be a pretty great feature, not a bug.

netwolf # Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:07:38 PM

Originally posted by lucideer:

No not really. It's more a bug in the test than a bug in Opera.

That's not the test I'm talking about.
What I mean is the page loading test, where Haavard said that this was (and still is) caused by a bug in Opera (it re-decodes everything from cache again or something similar).
( http://twitter.com/opvard/status/18448302115 )

Well, of course prd3 aka Purdi aka ... certainly knows better than all the "trolls" he's surrounded by...)

The other issue is indeed an optimization which 'breaks' the test, so definitely not an Opera bug (rather the opposite

lucideer # Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:35:56 PM

Ah. Sorry netwolf - I must've been half asleep reading that.

IKoke # Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:24:46 PM

@Erik Shikerin Why opera dont low memory usage when i close my tabs

Erik Shikerinerikshi # Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:06:02 PM

because Opera's quick, and to be quick, you've gotta use a lot of memory

Cutting Spoonhellspork # Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:05:22 PM

IKoke: try minimizing and restoring the main Opera window, it should reduce the memory use.

Jordan Shannon Crosswirejordanizdabomb # Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:20:04 PM

Gr8

lucideer # Friday, July 23, 2010 1:25:58 AM

Originally posted by IKoke:

@Erik Shikerin Why opera dont low memory usage when i close my tabs

It does, if the memory is needed by another app. If the memory is not needed elsewhere, it keeps it (why wouldn't it).

Pallab DeIndyan # Friday, July 23, 2010 3:23:14 AM

Originally posted by netwolf:

btw: another great opportunity that's lost, as the bug is still not fixed.
You couldn't have said 'thank you' to the testers for helping find the bug, and fix it ASAP.
But no, you blame the test setup instead...

True. Opera should rush out v10.61 bug right now (while they continue to fiddle with 10.7 weeklies).

prd3 # Friday, July 23, 2010 12:37:50 PM

Originally posted by IKoke:

Why opera dont low memory usage when i close my tabs

Because Opera caches stuff to make stuff faster. Even when you close a tab, it can still be used. See that "reopen closed tab" icon, among other things?

Originally posted by Indyan:

Opera should rush out v10.61 bug right now

They should do not such thing. That would be completely retarded. Rush out a fix faster than most security fixes for a bug that doesn't even affect people? FAIL.

omweri pius mainaomweripius # Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:53:23 PM

i wonder all the time when i want to download some music . they canot go trough why

Cutting Spoonhellspork # Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:39:49 PM

Use. More. Words. How and where you download would be the place to start.

......TrAsErA......vysakhtb # Monday, July 26, 2010 9:43:25 AM

Which opera used for n70? I am using opera 4.2

......TrAsErA......vysakhtb # Monday, July 26, 2010 9:50:32 AM

Opera 10.6 is gud .But i feel some delay in loading and poor resume download function

Cutting Spoonhellspork # Monday, July 26, 2010 4:34:06 PM

wsakh: your N70 can probably run Mini5.1, but you should know bookmarks for Mini are now stored in the "Opera Mini" folder of your Link account.

As for 10.60, which sites are causing the issue? Resume has not anything strange here.

......TrAsErA......vysakhtb # Monday, July 26, 2010 4:56:29 PM

Aftr loading pages, its take too much time in slower networks as compared to ie8 and chrome browser.
Eg: blog post page in my opera.
In chrme, the page appear sudenly
but in opera it take tøo much time and Load one by one. Some otr web site too shown similar problm.

......TrAsErA......vysakhtb # Monday, July 26, 2010 5:03:23 PM

I tried opera 5.1, 5.2 beta both not work perfectly in my n70. It is show a slow response in loadin, option selecting,its not smoot working lik 4.2 download manager perfect than 4.2 but not good as in uc web. N72,N90 also hav same problm. Wat can i do?

......TrAsErA......vysakhtb # Monday, July 26, 2010 5:07:42 PM

How can use opera 10.6 wit slow network?(mobile edge modem) how can i load only the content?

Cutting Spoonhellspork # Monday, July 26, 2010 8:15:05 PM

For 5.x on the phone, I'm surprised you have trouble. I use 5.1 on a very weak SCP3800/Katana LX. 5.1 has been good for me.

For 10.60 on the PC, grab "Fanboy's Adblock" to replace your normal ad-blocking file. Turbo button in lower left only loads plugin content that you click on in page. Opera also works with the mobile versions of most sites.

......TrAsErA......vysakhtb # Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:24:56 AM

Ok, but is tre any new symbian version for s60 v2 ?

......TrAsErA......vysakhtb # Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:27:03 AM

R u work in opera?

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