Images in emails blocked

Images in emails blocked

Just upgraded to 11.5. Windows 7 and Gmail POP3
Now, emails with images are blocked, I can unblock them and see the images but I would just as soon have them all display without having to unblock them. I cannot find the setting to do this. Can someone tell me how to do this.
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opera:config#UserPrefs|SuppressExternalEmbeds Try this.

Thank you LeoCG. The Option was checked I removed the check. Now I just have to wait for an email with images, I'll post back when I get one and if it fixed the problem.
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That Fixed it! Also I have learned a new way to set just about everything in Opera. A bigger Thanks for that LeoCG.
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Originally posted by LeoCG:

opera:config#UserPrefs|SuppressExternalEmbeds Try this.

Thank you very much, that is exactly what I needed as well

Note that when you choose to "Load images" for a message, you can save your choice for that contact. You can also do this preemptively by clicking the drop-down next to the from header above the message you're reading.

So, before you know it, emails from all your regulars will load messages automatically while images for spam will still be blocked.

Yes I know that but the problem is the block is also put in place for all the old emails. SO I would have to go though all of those email addresses I ever received email from.

Originally posted by Nafcom:

Yes I know that but the problem is the block is also put in place for all the old emails.

Old emails from contacts that you haven't already set to allow, yes.

Originally posted by Nafcom:

SO I would have to go though all of those email addresses I ever received email from.

True. But, that's something I wouldn't do for each message until I loaded it.

What would be better? A right-click on selection in message list -> "allow images for all these contacts"? Or, just show images automatically for everything except spam messages?

Originally posted by burnout426:

What would be better? A right-click on selection in message list -> "allow images for all these contacts"? Or, just show images automatically for everything except spam messages?

Acutally since I did this:

Originally posted by LeoCG:

opera:config#UserPrefs|SuppressExternalEmbeds Try this.

It works exactly the way you described: images in spam "filter" are still with imaged not loaaded automagically but the rest of the emails do. so perfect

I just used this editor to get images back.

Originally posted by LeoCG:

opera:config#UserPrefs|SuppressExternalEmbeds Try this.

Yes, I'm having this problem, too. I hate that whenever Opera makes changes, they automatically enable them. In any case, when I try going to the link you posted, I get a page that says "No matches found". There's no form in the regular Tools > Preferences menu to allow all images.

Honestly, I really could not give a flip whether or not the images in my spam show up, since I delete that, But, I do want the images in all my regular email to show up. Can I just enable ALL images at once? You know, like it was before.

Oh, I have the latest version of Opera, Window XP, and Dreamhost POP3 email.

EDIT: Okay, I found it. Thanks!

Originally posted by coach:

Can I just enable ALL images at once?

Can I DISABLE images and at the same time not see the big fat ugly blocked images notifier the way it used to be pre-11.50?

Last week I did this --

Originally posted by LeoCG:

opera:config#UserPrefs|SuppressExternalEmbeds Try this.

and it worked.

This week it's back to blocking images again, and this time the option for "Always load images from _________________" is Inactive (greyed out). That means I have to unblock the site over and over. I checked the "UserPrefs|SupressExternalEmbeds" and it's still unchecked. Is there something else that I'm missing? Maybe I'd better go back to the previous version of Opera. This is one of the things that really got me grumbling at Thunderbird, and now I have it in Opera.

Thanks for any clues.

Originally posted by lauren-o:

Maybe I'd better go back to the previous version of Opera.

I don't know what's up. But, be careful when downgrading. Sometimes, when new features are introduced and you downgrade, you can mess up your mail folder. It's always best to backup your mail folder before you upgrade or downgrade.

Originally posted by lauren-o:

This week it's back to blocking images again,

Are these messages spam messages or messages in All Messages/Received for example?

Originally posted by burnout426:

Are these messages spam messages or messages in All Messages/Received for example?

Yes! As a matter of fact they are! I had never even thought about spam before reading this thread, then wondered about it but, in a hurried look, couldn't find any reference to it. Then, just now, when I read your question, I realized I'd better take a closer look, then shamed myself with a "Oh for crying out loud!" when I found it. So I "Marked" it as "Not Spam", and it fixed it! It's another step, but it works.

Thanks very much for your help!

Originally posted by lauren-o:

I had never even thought about spam before reading this thread, then wondered about it but, in a hurried look, couldn't find any reference to it.

This is the exact reason why the new big ugly notification that encourages noobs to dowload all images and HIDES AND MARGINALISES THE OPTION TO BLOCK IMAGES IN E-MAIL should be ditched. In fact, it should never have been introduced, obviously.

It used to be basic and general-knowledge safety measure to turn images off in e-mail, but this new yellow notifier in the messages dumbefies noobs like a worst kind of microsoftism. Here is (yet) a(nother) prime example how corporate policy undermines veterans' efforts to educate noobs in using the software we all love.

This is such an irritating change to Opera that I can't believe the developers included it.
I guess it seemed like a good idea at the time and the developers, to their credit, are always coming up with great new ideas.
Maybe if they just make it more obvious how to turn that message off??

Originally posted by creegah:

This is such an irritating change to Opera that I can't believe the developers included it.

I haven't had any problem with this myself. I receive a one-time message that remote images are blocked for an address. I then allow images and save the choice. From then on, all is good.

Now I don't see the message anymore except for some new contact and then I just save my choice for that.

Also, it's not like a see a zillion legit emails that try to load remote images anyway.

So, for me, fwiw, things are working great.

Originally posted by burnout426:

I haven't had any problem with this myself. I receive a one-time message that remote images are blocked for an address. I then allow images and save the choice.

What if you don't allow the images, as basic common sense security considerations dictate?

How is it so hard to understand the obvious? Please please make this ugly adverse notification disappear WITHOUT forcing us to download the images.

Originally posted by ersi:

What if you don't allow the images, as basic common sense security considerations dictate?

That's how it works now, by default even. They don't load unless you choose to.

Originally posted by ersi:

How is it so hard to understand the obvious? Please please make this ugly adverse notification disappear WITHOUT forcing us to download the images.

Just hide it. Open up a message that shows the notification. Then, hit shift + f12 and goto the toolbars tab. Left-click the notification bar to select it. Then, change placement from top to none.

Originally posted by burnout426:

Originally posted by ersi:

How is it so hard to understand the obvious? Please please make this ugly adverse notification disappear WITHOUT forcing us to download the images.

Just hide it. Open up a message that shows the notification. Then, hit shift + f12 and goto the toolbars tab. Left-click the notification bar to select it. Then, change placement from top to none.

Thanks for the UNobvious solution. Mind you, Opera has lately invented a button that refuses to disappear the normal way all other buttons can be hidden. To make the interface inconsistent is a clear policy now.

So, it's defined as a toolbar? Why not have an X or Cancel button at its right-hand end the way we have with Find toolbar? Why not have a "never remember/show for this address any more" the way we have with Wand? Why ...?

Originally posted by ersi:

Why not have an X or Cancel button at its right-hand end the way we have with Find toolbar? Why not have a "never remember/show for this address any more" the way we have with Wand? Why ...?

It just the way to the dev envisioned and implemented it. It's also the first implementation.

Your suggestions sound find to me.

Originally posted by LeoCG:

opera:config#UserPrefs|SuppressExternalEmbeds Try this.

Actually that fails. But if I show all I can find it in the list.

Originally posted by hucker:

Actually that fails. But if I show all I can find it in the list.

That's a forum bug that percent-encodes the |. One has to post it as opera:config#Suppress%20External%20Embeds.

Originally posted by coach:

Originally posted by LeoCG:

opera:config#UserPrefs|SuppressExternalEmbeds Try this.

Yes, I'm having this problem, too. I hate that whenever Opera makes changes, they automatically enable them. In any case, when I try going to the link you posted, I get a page that says "No matches found". There's no form in the regular Tools > Preferences menu to allow all images.
Honestly, I really could not give a flip whether or not the images in my spam show up, since I delete that, But, I do want the images in all my regular email to show up. Can I just enable ALL images at once? You know, like it was before.

I agree.

I still have no idea what you are suppose to do with the link in the 2nd post. The preferences editor is blank except for a single checkbox allowing your to "show all".

Originally posted by videobruce:

I still have no idea what you are suppose to do with the link in the 2nd post. The preferences editor is blank except for a single checkbox allowing your to "show all".

The post by burnout426 just before yours has a valid link. Untick the box next to "suppress external embeds" and press save.

Originally posted by ersi:

Originally posted by burnout426:

Originally posted by ersi:

How is it so hard to understand the obvious? Please please make this ugly adverse notification disappear WITHOUT forcing us to download the images.

Just hide it. Open up a message that shows the notification. Then, hit shift + f12 and goto the toolbars tab. Left-click the notification bar to select it. Then, change placement from top to none.

Thanks for the UNobvious solution. Mind you, Opera has lately invented a button that refuses to disappear the normal way all other buttons can be hidden. To make the interface inconsistent is a clear policy now.

So, it's defined as a toolbar? Why not have an X or Cancel button at its right-hand end the way we have with Find toolbar? Why not have a "never remember/show for this address any more" the way we have with Wand? Why ...?

What if you don't have an option for the notification bar. I am using v12.02 and there is not notification bar listed. I am tired of this deal with the mail and am thinking about uinistalling Opera. I like it because it has the built in mail and does not require launching a new program. But this is getting the best of my nervs.

Originally posted by eclark53:

What if you don't have an option for the notification bar.

Try <http://my.opera.com/operawiki/forums/topic.dml?id=1481982> to see if that helps show the bar.

Originally posted by eclark53:

What if you don't have an option for the notification bar.

It's not an option under "Shift + F12 -> toolbars".

However, if you open a message that tries to load remote images (and you haven't previously allowed remote images for that contact), you'll see a yellow notification bar between the body of the message and the header bar. Try a spam message that tries to load remote content for example.

When the notification bar is shown, you can goto "shift + F12 -> toolbars" where you can then left-click on the notification bar to focus it so the settings at the bottom of the toolbars tab work for it.

Why is this supposed "feature" here anyway?
Why block "images"??

Originally posted by videobruce:

Why block "images"??

Spam server sends message to your email address (that it generated at random from a list of words etc. or from scraping some site that has your address on it).

In the HTML message, it uses:

<img src="https://spamserver.com/image.jpg?id=8724591">

where 8724591 is an id tied to your email address.

You then receive the message and open it and the image is fetched with that URI (including that id).

Then, when the server detects that, it knows that your email address is active. The server then adds your address to the active list so it can target your for spam.

Other reasons would be a specially-crafted image or page that tries to target some known vulnerability.

In short, for your safety and privacy.

Understood.
I don't remember ever getting a e-mail with advertising other than where the e-mail was from in the first place.
I receive very little spam, if any.
A few years ago when I was with Verizon DSL, I got a ton of Viagra like ads from Europe which lasted around nine months or more.

I unchecked that box and will see if all images load since they weren't even allowing them from selected senders.

I had similar problems with unwanted images, so I just stopped using opera as my e-mail client. Maybe in the future I will use it again, since it is very useful to have 2 apps in 1.

You then receive the message and open it and the image is fetched with that URI (including that id).

Ok, if the image is blocked, can't you still click on what would the the placeholder of the image??

Originally posted by videobruce:

Ok, if the image is blocked, can't you still click on what would the the placeholder of the image??

If that image that's blocked is embedded in a link, yes, you can click the link still. If it's not, you can click the placeholder and it won't do anything.

Just to understand the logic here, if just a link was provided instead of a image, wouldn't clicking on that link (instead of a image) provide all the same info to whomever it was going to??

Originally posted by videobruce:

Just to understand the logic here, if just a link was provided instead of a image, wouldn't clicking on that link (instead of a image) provide all the same info to whomever it was going to??

Correct, if you click on the link. The difference is that if images aren't blocked, images are fetched automatically. It's the fetching of the images that's dangerous. As in, an image that's loaded that's not embedded in a link can leak information *automatically*.

It's the fetching of the images that's dangerous.

Why/how is that any different than clinking on a link? Are you talking about code hidden within the image itself??
How can an image "leak info"??

How can an image "leak info"??

I explained that earlier in <http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=13067042>.

Originally posted by videobruce:

Why/how is that any different than clinking on a link?

Again, one is automatic and one is not.

Sorry, it's confusing and complicated to me.
It's easier to wade through Windows registry than all of that.

I tried opera:config#UserPrefs%7CSuppressExternalEmbeds and the system cannot find it. Show all makes it possible to find it yourself, but when I uncheck it I cannot make it permanent: at the next startup it is checked again.

How do I save the change?

It's opera:config#Suppress%20External%20Embeds. The forums here screw up the | when you use the other way.

Originally posted by tjapko:

but when I uncheck it I cannot make it permanent: at the next startup it is checked again.

Did you click the save button for that section of preferences?