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We should be able to see/edit our usernames/passwords in Password Manager
The thing I like about Firefox's password manager is that you can see what the username and passwords you have saved. One may like to see his password bcoz few sites are out there which don't have an option of "forgot password".So here is what I would like in Opera's Password Manager. The ability to:
show saved usernames and passwords
edit usernames and passwords from there.
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3. July 2011, 15:29:50 (edited)
someones/anyones entire user name and password collection ?. Colour me paranoid, And i can see
the convenience for the individual, But the risks could be shocking, Surely ?.
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Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:
Originally posted by terrorist96:
I would like to see this as well. As an added layer of security, you could have the UAC screen pop up when you request to see the usernames and passwords.
Very very bad solution. What to do about Windows XP and Windows 2000. And a user can simply click the continue button on UAC. And most people on Vista and 7 have admin privileges.
A better idea would be to require a password for viewing and editing the saved passwords.
That works too.
Originally posted by sufian88:
The thing I like about Firefox's password manager is that you can see what the username and passwords you have saved. One may like to see his password bcoz few sites are out there which don't have an option of "forgot password".
So here is what I would like in Opera's Password Manager. The ability to:
show saved usernames and passwords
edit usernames and passwords from there.
+1
Originally posted by LinuxMint7:
Just throwing this out there, But would it not pose a bit of a security risk to allow visual access to someones/anyones entire user name and password collection ?. Colour me paranoid, And i can see the convenience for the individual, But the risks could be shocking, Surely ?.
* You don't store passwords on a public computer.
* On your own computer, you password-protect the account.
* On a computer you share, each user has their own password-protected account and therefore their own Opera/Firefox profile where no one else has access to your profile.
* You never unhide the passwords in front of anyone or in front of a camera or when anyone could possibly see.
* You never let anyone have access to your user account.
* Firefox and Chrome have this and have a lot more users than Opera. If it was a problem (even for users that share accounts with trusted family members/friends etc.), they wouldn't have the feature.
* Usability trumps security (arguably)
Originally posted by LinuxMint7:
Just throwing this out there, But would it not pose a bit of a security risk to allow visual access to someones/anyones entire user name and password collection ?. Colour me paranoid, And i can see the convenience for the individual, But the risks could be shocking, Surely ?.
This is not a security feature anyway. Don't think that your passwords are secure if you cannot view them. They might not be visible in Opera but utilities such as OperaPassView (thanks to someone for posting about this in the forums - though I don't remember who posted it) can easily show them.
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9. January 2012, 15:02:47 (edited)
9. January 2012, 15:28:35 (edited)
As a reference, Firefox prompts you for the master password when you click "view passwords". This allows you to then view the passwords and even copy them (in case you need to use them in another browser.) Having no access to your own passwords is a huge drawback. Even though we can still login to our accounts using the password manager, we should always have visible access to the passwords themselves. They are our passwords, after all.
The security risk of a stranger viewing the passwords is moot, since he would require physical access and the master password. From the computer's perspective, such a person is no different than the legitimate owner of the machine.
Originally posted by flansuse:
This definitely should be incorporated into Opera's password manager.
As a reference, Firefox prompts you for the master password when you click "view passwords". This allows you to then view the passwords and even copy them (in case you need to use them in another browser.) Having no access to your own passwords is a huge drawback. Even though we can still login to our accounts using the password manager, we should always have visible access to the passwords themselves. They are our passwords, after all.
what he said; huge +1 for this one.
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Agree. Also i would like integration with the Keychain in OSX, but that may be a feature request for another topic.
changing password is not i frequently use, but maybe some people do. (for security reasons? nah, i don't think so!) so being able to change your password can be a good idea.
all in sum: +1 for ability to change passwords and -1 to show passwords
Originally posted by Mehrzad4096:
-1 to show passwords
See these two posts:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=11256272
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=11295882

This would be a great option! Count me in!
As for security risks - if you're anything like me (paranoid
), you use at least 3 different passwords. One for unimportant sites (forums etc.), one or two for email accounts and such, and one or even two different ones for very important sites (paypal or something). That way there is almost no security risks if this option is added. Originally posted by nordag:
Originally posted by Mehrzad4096:
Please read the thread completely before you post such false information.showing passwords = lower security
Please make sure that your audience haven't already done what you are advising to. so thanks for that, but let me clarify what i said: showing passwords = lower security!
Originally posted by Mehrzad4096:
but let me clarify what i said: showing passwords = lower security!
The security risk of a stranger viewing the passwords is moot, since he would require physical access and the master password. From the computer's perspective, such a person is no different than the legitimate owner of the machine.
Originally posted by nordag:
If you can't digest such simple equation there is nothing i can do about it.Originally posted by Mehrzad4096:
Now stop spreading stupidity.Please make sure that your audience haven't already done what you are advising to. so thanks for that, but let me clarify what i said: showing passwords = lower security!
Originally posted by nordag:
You didn't.Sorry that I hurt your feelings/ego.
Of course, that's true - a master password asked not except when requesting for the passwords. For me it's a situation of lower security, having me to build a master password as remedy. so if the problem that i do not use access passwords is resolvable, i have no problem with that.The security risk of a stranger viewing the passwords is moot, since he would require physical access and the master password. From the computer's perspective, such a person is no different than the legitimate owner of the machine.
Originally posted by Mehrzad4096:
There is nothing do 'digest' here, your equation is fraud, as it does not include the master password which would be required to access the password manager. And as long as you don't come up with a valid argument for your pathetic attempt of an 'equation' you should either read a little bit about password storage practices or just stfu.If you can't digest such simple equation there is nothing i can do about it.
EOD!
Chrome and Firefox don't *require* you to set a master password to enable showing of your passwords. Opera shouldn't *require* that either.
Also, when you go into the password preferences, the passwords aren't shown by default. You have to choose to show the passwords every single time you go into preferences.
You obviously wouldn't choose to show passwords (whether you have a master password set and have to enter it first or not) while someone is looking.
So, there's nothing to worry about. And, as said before, if you give someone access to your computer, you have more to worry about than passwords in your browser. But, enable a master password if you're scared.
Sometimes a site changes its login procedure and so even though Opera has your login details stored for that site, the wand won't work. It would be nice to be able to see my username and password for instances like that when I need to manually type in the info.
The security argument is somewhat moot because you can take a wand.dat file and view all of the usernames and passwords contained in it using third party programs, unless you choose to protect it with a master password. Therefore, you should be able to view usernames/passwords within Opera, but protect that with the master password too, then from a security standpoint you're not really any worse off.
Originally posted by funksoulbro:
The security argument is somewhat moot because you can take a wand.dat file and view all of the usernames and passwords contained in it using third party programs, unless you choose to protect it with a master password. Therefore, you should be able to view usernames/passwords within Opera, but protect that with the master password too, then from a security standpoint you're not really any worse off.
That's the whole point I was trying to make earlier. If you're not going to protect your passwords with a master password, then you have no grounds to talk about "security" by hiding the passwords within Opera itself. Not only is it not more secure, but it's a false sense of security. If you don't use a master password, give me two minutes with a Linux live CD or USB with physical access to your machine, and all of your passwords are mine. Other password managers, such as KeePass, allow you to view your passwords, but the file (e.g, passwords.kdb) is encrypted with a... wait for it... master password! Don't want people to view your passwords? Then don't intentionally display them if someone is looking over your shoulder. Afraid they'll get physical access to your machine? Then use a master password.
To "hide" the passwords in Opera from the legitimate user himself is not more secure. It's an inconvenience with no additional benefits.
As mentioned earlier, sometimes you need to use your passwords in another browser, or temporarily on a web site that is having issues with the wand. Sometimes you even need to copy them over to another program (like a password manager) or another browser. Give the user access to his own passwords.
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Still we can have fun with the "SOPA/PIPA thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YQ9Mm4Oz1I
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_Kh8U0yDD0
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4. November 2012, 08:02:55 (edited)
+1
This is a no-brainer. If a master password is not set, we should be able to enable a checkbox to view our passwords in the Password Manager. Since I can do this easily with a free utility (Opera PassView) it makes no sense at all to hide passwords from the user, unless they want to hide them from someone looking over their shoulder.
The default should be to hide them, of course, but users should be able to enable them. I prefer to prevent access to Opera on my computer by using an encrypted drive. Then no one can access wand.dat either.
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It's not really a security risk since passwords are not encrypted and can be easily accessed using 3rd party programs (unless using a master password).
I run Zone Alarm security suite and it will hit on it every time and delete the exe file.