We should be able to see/edit our usernames/passwords in Password Manager

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30. June 2011, 18:47:17

sufian88

Posts: 7

We should be able to see/edit our usernames/passwords in Password Manager

The thing I like about Firefox's password manager is that you can see what the username and passwords you have saved. One may like to see his password bcoz few sites are out there which don't have an option of "forgot password".

So here is what I would like in Opera's Password Manager. The ability to:
show saved usernames and passwords
edit usernames and passwords from there.

3. July 2011, 13:38:13

salmanbabri

Posts: 2

I agree. This functionality should be added to Opera. smile

3. July 2011, 13:51:34

I agree too. +1
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3. July 2011, 15:29:50 (edited)

LinuxMint7

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Just throwing this out there, But would it not pose a bit of a security risk to allow visual access to
someones/anyones entire user name and password collection ?. Colour me paranoid, And i can see
the convenience for the individual, But the risks could be shocking, Surely ?.

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3. July 2011, 16:22:01

terrorist96

Posts: 84

I would like to see this as well. As an added layer of security, you could have the UAC screen pop up when you request to see the usernames and passwords.

4. July 2011, 15:56:52

terrorist96

Posts: 84

Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

Originally posted by terrorist96:

I would like to see this as well. As an added layer of security, you could have the UAC screen pop up when you request to see the usernames and passwords.



Very very bad solution. What to do about Windows XP and Windows 2000. And a user can simply click the continue button on UAC. And most people on Vista and 7 have admin privileges.

A better idea would be to require a password for viewing and editing the saved passwords.


That works too. p

5. January 2012, 11:44:33

Schnellinger

Posts: 70

Originally posted by sufian88:

The thing I like about Firefox's password manager is that you can see what the username and passwords you have saved. One may like to see his password bcoz few sites are out there which don't have an option of "forgot password".

So here is what I would like in Opera's Password Manager. The ability to:
show saved usernames and passwords
edit usernames and passwords from there.



+1

5. January 2012, 12:02:05

burnout426

Posts: 12417

+1

Originally posted by LinuxMint7:

Just throwing this out there, But would it not pose a bit of a security risk to allow visual access to someones/anyones entire user name and password collection ?. Colour me paranoid, And i can see the convenience for the individual, But the risks could be shocking, Surely ?.



* You don't store passwords on a public computer.

* On your own computer, you password-protect the account.

* On a computer you share, each user has their own password-protected account and therefore their own Opera/Firefox profile where no one else has access to your profile.

* You never unhide the passwords in front of anyone or in front of a camera or when anyone could possibly see.

* You never let anyone have access to your user account.

* Firefox and Chrome have this and have a lot more users than Opera. If it was a problem (even for users that share accounts with trusted family members/friends etc.), they wouldn't have the feature.

* Usability trumps security (arguably)

5. January 2012, 12:42:55

Just missed LinuxMint7's reply earlier.

Originally posted by LinuxMint7:

Just throwing this out there, But would it not pose a bit of a security risk to allow visual access to someones/anyones entire user name and password collection ?. Colour me paranoid, And i can see the convenience for the individual, But the risks could be shocking, Surely ?.


This is not a security feature anyway. Don't think that your passwords are secure if you cannot view them. They might not be visible in Opera but utilities such as OperaPassView (thanks to someone for posting about this in the forums - though I don't remember who posted it) can easily show them.
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9. January 2012, 15:02:47 (edited)

strychnos

Posts: 1

+1.000.000
Better solution: Opera has this ability.
Much worse solution: Using the third party software and do not know, how it works.

9. January 2012, 15:28:35 (edited)

flansuse

Posts: 182

This definitely should be incorporated into Opera's password manager.

As a reference, Firefox prompts you for the master password when you click "view passwords". This allows you to then view the passwords and even copy them (in case you need to use them in another browser.) Having no access to your own passwords is a huge drawback. Even though we can still login to our accounts using the password manager, we should always have visible access to the passwords themselves. They are our passwords, after all.

The security risk of a stranger viewing the passwords is moot, since he would require physical access and the master password. From the computer's perspective, such a person is no different than the legitimate owner of the machine.

5. March 2012, 16:24:16

nordag

Posts: 11

+1

I really need this, as I have wrong and old passwords for htaccess-forms saved that i would like to remove.

And just secure the pw manager with a master pw, should solve the access problem easily.

8. March 2012, 01:48:36

joezespak

Posts: 31

Originally posted by flansuse:

This definitely should be incorporated into Opera's password manager.
As a reference, Firefox prompts you for the master password when you click "view passwords". This allows you to then view the passwords and even copy them (in case you need to use them in another browser.) Having no access to your own passwords is a huge drawback. Even though we can still login to our accounts using the password manager, we should always have visible access to the passwords themselves. They are our passwords, after all.



what he said; huge +1 for this one.

9. March 2012, 17:40:48

ozoratsubasa

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+ 1
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9. March 2012, 19:48:56

eridanired123

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+1
Agree. Also i would like integration with the Keychain in OSX, but that may be a feature request for another topic.

11. March 2012, 14:39:39

4ndrea

Posts: 299

+1
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16. March 2012, 23:18:26

Mehrzad4096

Posts: 15

I agree with LinuxMint7. showing passwords = lower security. and if it's possible to see them through some other program it's a security problem with opera.
changing password is not i frequently use, but maybe some people do. (for security reasons? nah, i don't think so!) so being able to change your password can be a good idea.
all in sum: +1 for ability to change passwords and -1 to show passwords

17. March 2012, 09:50:09

jirayu16563

Posts: 69

+1

but Opera should ask for Master Password to access Password Manager

17. March 2012, 11:45:03

nordag

Posts: 11

Originally posted by Mehrzad4096:

showing passwords = lower security

Please read the thread completely before you post such false information.

17. March 2012, 12:59:52

mateslo

Posts: 32

++ smile

This would be a great option! Count me in!
As for security risks - if you're anything like me (paranoid bigsmile), you use at least 3 different passwords. One for unimportant sites (forums etc.), one or two for email accounts and such, and one or even two different ones for very important sites (paypal or something). That way there is almost no security risks if this option is added.

18. March 2012, 01:39:21

Mehrzad4096

Posts: 15

Originally posted by nordag:

Originally posted by Mehrzad4096:

showing passwords = lower security

Please read the thread completely before you post such false information.


Please make sure that your audience haven't already done what you are advising to. so thanks for that, but let me clarify what i said: showing passwords = lower security!

18. March 2012, 02:26:16

flansuse

Posts: 182

Originally posted by Mehrzad4096:

but let me clarify what i said: showing passwords = lower security!


The security risk of a stranger viewing the passwords is moot, since he would require physical access and the master password. From the computer's perspective, such a person is no different than the legitimate owner of the machine.

18. March 2012, 04:27:00

nordag

Posts: 11

Originally posted by Mehrzad4096:

Please make sure that your audience haven't already done what you are advising to. so thanks for that, but let me clarify what i said: showing passwords = lower security!

Sorry that I hurt your feelings/ego. Now stop spreading stupidity.

18. March 2012, 12:15:21

Mehrzad4096

Posts: 15

Originally posted by nordag:

Originally posted by Mehrzad4096:

Please make sure that your audience haven't already done what you are advising to. so thanks for that, but let me clarify what i said: showing passwords = lower security!

Now stop spreading stupidity.

If you can't digest such simple equation there is nothing i can do about it.

Originally posted by nordag:

Sorry that I hurt your feelings/ego.

You didn't. smile

The security risk of a stranger viewing the passwords is moot, since he would require physical access and the master password. From the computer's perspective, such a person is no different than the legitimate owner of the machine.

Of course, that's true - a master password asked not except when requesting for the passwords. For me it's a situation of lower security, having me to build a master password as remedy. so if the problem that i do not use access passwords is resolvable, i have no problem with that.

18. March 2012, 13:04:59

nordag

Posts: 11

Originally posted by Mehrzad4096:

If you can't digest such simple equation there is nothing i can do about it.

There is nothing do 'digest' here, your equation is fraud, as it does not include the master password which would be required to access the password manager. And as long as you don't come up with a valid argument for your pathetic attempt of an 'equation' you should either read a little bit about password storage practices or just stfu.

EOD!

18. March 2012, 13:39:21

burnout426

Posts: 12417

Notes though:

Chrome and Firefox don't *require* you to set a master password to enable showing of your passwords. Opera shouldn't *require* that either.

Also, when you go into the password preferences, the passwords aren't shown by default. You have to choose to show the passwords every single time you go into preferences.

You obviously wouldn't choose to show passwords (whether you have a master password set and have to enter it first or not) while someone is looking.

So, there's nothing to worry about. And, as said before, if you give someone access to your computer, you have more to worry about than passwords in your browser. But, enable a master password if you're scared.

20. March 2012, 08:51:33

zielak007

Posts: 803

Originally posted by sufian88:

We should be able to see/edit our usernames/passwords in Password Manager

+1

21. March 2012, 00:53:46

funksoulbro

Posts: 26

I would like this functionality too.

Sometimes a site changes its login procedure and so even though Opera has your login details stored for that site, the wand won't work. It would be nice to be able to see my username and password for instances like that when I need to manually type in the info.

The security argument is somewhat moot because you can take a wand.dat file and view all of the usernames and passwords contained in it using third party programs, unless you choose to protect it with a master password. Therefore, you should be able to view usernames/passwords within Opera, but protect that with the master password too, then from a security standpoint you're not really any worse off.

21. March 2012, 13:05:02

4ndrea

Posts: 299

+1
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21. March 2012, 14:54:43

flansuse

Posts: 182

Originally posted by funksoulbro:

The security argument is somewhat moot because you can take a wand.dat file and view all of the usernames and passwords contained in it using third party programs, unless you choose to protect it with a master password. Therefore, you should be able to view usernames/passwords within Opera, but protect that with the master password too, then from a security standpoint you're not really any worse off.


That's the whole point I was trying to make earlier. If you're not going to protect your passwords with a master password, then you have no grounds to talk about "security" by hiding the passwords within Opera itself. Not only is it not more secure, but it's a false sense of security. If you don't use a master password, give me two minutes with a Linux live CD or USB with physical access to your machine, and all of your passwords are mine. Other password managers, such as KeePass, allow you to view your passwords, but the file (e.g, passwords.kdb) is encrypted with a... wait for it... master password! Don't want people to view your passwords? Then don't intentionally display them if someone is looking over your shoulder. Afraid they'll get physical access to your machine? Then use a master password.

To "hide" the passwords in Opera from the legitimate user himself is not more secure. It's an inconvenience with no additional benefits.

As mentioned earlier, sometimes you need to use your passwords in another browser, or temporarily on a web site that is having issues with the wand. Sometimes you even need to copy them over to another program (like a password manager) or another browser. Give the user access to his own passwords.

22. March 2012, 16:34:19

jerobarraco

Posts: 77

+1, at least to see the list of users and the possibility to delete any one, without having to go to the configuration dialog and browse through all the sites.
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24. April 2012, 11:34:56

mubaidr

Posts: 541

+1 from my side too wink

13. May 2012, 18:34:55

joezespak

Posts: 31

Big hearty +1 for this.

5. June 2012, 23:35:55

ozoratsubasa

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i desisted of LastPass because of a security problem they had.
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3. November 2012, 18:08:34

buya33

Posts: 3

+1
obviously alot of people wish this...

4. November 2012, 08:02:55 (edited)

Pesala

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Posts: 25579

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+1
This is a no-brainer. If a master password is not set, we should be able to enable a checkbox to view our passwords in the Password Manager. Since I can do this easily with a free utility (Opera PassView) it makes no sense at all to hide passwords from the user, unless they want to hide them from someone looking over their shoulder.

The default should be to hide them, of course, but users should be able to enable them. I prefer to prevent access to Opera on my computer by using an encrypted drive. Then no one can access wand.dat either.
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11. December 2012, 22:49:53

BlueAngell

Posts: 7

After looking at Opera Passview and plain Passview, who both contain a virus/malware, it appears there is no way to view passwords in wand.dat.

16. December 2012, 07:20:35

sufian88

Posts: 7

Originally posted by BlueAngell:

After looking at Opera Passview and plain Passview, who both contain a virus/malware, it appears there is no way to view passwords in wand.dat.


Which AV detected the virus/malware?

25. December 2012, 10:51:42

Moorg

AKA Klepto-Man

Posts: 74

Yes please!

It's not really a security risk since passwords are not encrypted and can be easily accessed using 3rd party programs (unless using a master password).

14. March 2013, 23:16:56

BlueAngell

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Sufian88 wrote "Which AV detected the virus/malware?"

I run Zone Alarm security suite and it will hit on it every time and delete the exe file.

16. March 2013, 22:22:05

BlueAngell

Posts: 7

Although downloaded new file, unzipped and no problem with ZoneAlarm. Either ZoneAlarm has updated it's database or I was getting dirty copies in the past.

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