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The World VS Terror
The world might have fought and won many wars both great and small, both in solo and in unity, but there is one war that seems to me that the world has lost, and i can't see any way that we can defeat this little but relentless enemy called TERROR. I believe that Terror, no matter how much we kill the terrorist will ever remain as long as mentality differs and there are people who want to fight and kill for God.What do you people think: Could Terror ever be defeated?
Would Terror ever be defeated?
| Option | Results | Votes | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Depends on your definition for "Terror" | 25% | 2 | |
| Terror has defeated the world | 0% | 0 | |
| With time, it would be defeated | 38% | 3 | |
| No | 50% | 4 | |
| Yes | 13% | 1 | |
| Total number of votes: | 8 | ||
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
Originally posted by rjhowie:
Just wait to see how the ex-Colonists here try to bodyswerve that one - as usual.
You might be waiting a while. This is one where Katsung actually got it halfway right. Even a stopped clock.....
... by pasting an AP article instead of some screed from one of the paranoia nutcase forums he visits. Must be a mistake.
FNORD14. Wipe thine ass with what is written and grin like a ninny at what is Spoken. Take thine refuge with thine wine in the Nothing behind Everything, as you hurry along the Path.
THE PURPLE SAGE, HBT; The Book of Predictions, Chap. 19
By Spencer Ackerman
March 28, 2012
UPDATE: The FBI has released the memo in question. Read it here.
The FBI taught its agents that they could sometimes “bend or suspend the law” in their hunt for terrorists and criminals. Other FBI instructional material, discovered during a months-long review of FBI counterterrorism training, warned agents against shaking hands with “Asians” and said Arabs were prone to “Jekyll & Hyde temper tantrums.”
These are just some of the disturbing results of the FBI’s six-month review into how the Bureau trained its counterterrorism agents. That review, now complete, did not result in a single disciplinary action for any instructor. Nor did it mandate the retraining of any FBI agent exposed to what the Bureau concedes was inappropriate material. Nor did it look at any intelligence reports that might have been influenced by the training. All that has a powerful senator saying that the review represents a “failure to adequately address” the problem.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/fbi-bend-suspend-law/
Fidai said in TV interviews he got suicide bombing lessons for six months, including training to use pistols, grenades and a suicide jacket. He said an Afghan Taliban leader named Mullah Sangeen was in charge of the training camp. He said he had been recruited one day as he was coming home from school, when a Taliban leader named Qari Zafar met him and persuaded him he would go to heaven if he carried out a suicide attack. "The moment you will press the button of your suicide jacket, you will immediately go to heaven," Fidai said Zafar told him.
Now after ten years, Al Qaeda is still in Afghanistan.
There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq (Saddam's regime). After US' invasion, there were Al Qaeda everywhere in Iraq to bombing the people. Now US withdraws from Iraq, Al Qaeda is still there.
There was no Al Qaeda heard in Gaddafi's Libya, now Al Qaeda is a force liberated Libya.
There was no Al Qaeda heard in Syria too, now it becomes part force of Syria opposition.
Al Qaeda now is everywhere in Mid-east. It becomes stronger and stronger and works with US interest.
Tell me what is this "war on terror" for? After ten years.
Originally posted by katsung47:
FBI Taught katsung47 to believe every paranoid Article published.
By Virusboy
April 20 2012
UPDATE: The FBI has released the memo in question. Read it here.
The FBI taught its greatest asset to believe everything, and question nothing. When given a most recent article on bending and suspending the law for only certain situations, when in reality, the FBI does what damn well pleases, fuck the retribution coming. And when the FBI released this prized possession into the General Population the masses started leaning to the "Believe all, Question none" mentality, The FBI applauded, stating "This is a great day in Government controlling tactics... More on A4.
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But at last...
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...And all will burn beneath the shadow of my wings...
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Ted Gunderson Former FBI Chief - Most Terror Attacks Are Committed By Our CIA And FBI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ2VpfUqRoo&feature=player_embedded
Theodore L. Gunderson #1 [-]
theintelhub.com
May 9, 2012
The supposed al Qaeda bomb plot to blow up a U.S. bound plane has completely fallen apparent with recent revelations that the terrorist was actually working for the CIA and Saudi Intelligence the entire time.
That’s right, this huge corporate media manufactured story was literally a NON EVENT with the terrorist actually being an operative who then turned the bomb over to the Central Intelligence Agency.
In an all too predictable next move, the corporate media is now running direct homeland security advertisements for body scanners throughout the entire world.
Employees of the Chertoff Group touted their naked body scanners throughout all three major news networks within minutes of the story hitting the newswires.
Meanwhile, the chairman of the U.S. House Homeland Security Committee is furious over the leak that eventually proved that the supposed terrorist arrested in this latest staged event was actually working for the CIA and Saudi Intelligence.
http://theintelhub.com/2012/05/09/manufactured-false-flag-bomb-plot-exposed-officials-irate-over-leak-proving-cia-ran-entire-operation/
Agony....
My hatred burns through the cavernous deeps. The world heaves with my torment. Its wretched kingdoms quake beneath my rage...
But at last...
The whole of Azeroth will break...
...And all will burn beneath the shadow of my wings...
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Originally posted by katsung47:
Tell me what is this "war on terror" for? After ten years.
It is an excuse. An excuse for draining money from the populace.
It is an excuse for actions which go against the principles of the nation (I know they're against the principles of the U.S. and as far as I can tell they're against the principles of lots of other nations.)
It is for the purpose of propaganda. (It strikes at my heart that it has worked - the way it has been used (abused, misused) is as bad or worse than the original terrorism.)
And it appears that somehow it has been effectively used as a way to do things which do not in any way combat terrorism. It's freaking bizarre, and it speaks ill of humans in general - just as bad as the incidence of terrorism speaks ill of humans.
Turkey has arrested-- I know you're not going to believe this-- a bird. For spying. Turkish authorities actually have arrested a bird for being an Israeli spy.
Just when you thought it couldn't get weirder.
007. James Bird.
Edit; correction: They didn't arrest the miscreant bird, they found it already dead-- or at least that's what they want us to believe-- and they think it might have had a spy camera in its nostrils. Man, you can't make stuff like this up.
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
Source :
Last Updated: Fri, Feb 25, 2011
Manama, Feb 25 (IANS/RIA Novosti) The popular unrest in Arab countries that led to the fall of regimes in Tunisia and Egypt is part of a US-designed strategic project dubbed 'New Middle East', a Bahraini deputy said Thursday.
http://www.sify.com/news/us-behind-arab-unrest-alleges-bahrain-lawmaker-news-international-lczluhijcfe.html
They creat terrorism to achieve their NWO.
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
Not so far fetched as one might think.
The Pentagon's battle bugs /Apr 3, 2008
Pentagon’s Cyborg Insects All Grown Up /March 19, 2008

Every morning a lion wakes up. It knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it will starve to death.
It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or a gazelle: when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.
By DAVID K. SHIPLER
Published: April 28, 2012
THE United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years — or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts.
But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. Suspects naïvely played their parts until they were arrested.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-helped-along-by-the-fbi.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all
Originally posted by rjhowie:
And now the US is denying it had military people in North Korea. This should be an interesting one!
Well, if Rajab says so, it must be true.'These riots and revolutions we are observing today in Arab countries are the implementation of the global US project entitled 'New Middle East'. This programme started with Iraq, followed by Lebanon,' Bahraini deputy Samira Rajab told RIA Novosti.
And you know that US troops have been in NK?
UPDATE: U.S. military officials told a Voice of America journalist in a statement that the quotes attributed to Gen. Tolley were fabricated. “At no time have SOF [Special Operations] forces been sent to the north to conduct special reconnaissance,” said the United States Forces Korea.
"I should have been clearer," he added. "In my attempt to explain where technology could help us, I spoke in the present tense. I realise I wasn’t clear in how I presented my remarks, leaving the opportunity for some in the audience to draw the wrong conclusions." Tolley emphasised that "at no time have we sent special operations forces into North Korea."
Somebody's not telling the truth. I wonder who. What I do know is that generals can be dumbasses like the rest of us.
These things don't happen with Scotland because foreign affairs for Scotland are about Scots diddling folks from elsewhere in the world.
Briton Tom Grundy Attempts Citizen's Arrest On Tony Blair In Hong Kong (PICTURES)
The Huffington Post UK | By Dina Rickman Posted: 14/06/2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/14/briton-tom-grundy-attempt_n_1596399.html
Drone Strike That Kills Al-Qaeda Leader Leaves Questions - Businessweek
Was this a legit war target or a civilian in a foriegn land?
Are we executing civilians without trials or hitting legal war combatants?
If this was done with living soldiers in harms way, I doubt we would be admitting such executions. But since a robot is doing it, its modern warfare?
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If the Pentagon says it's enemy, then he is enemy. Pentagon doesn't need to prove it. That's why they established Guantanamo camp where they have their own prison and court system. They don't have to be responsible to US law. In another word, Pentagon is outlaw.
They still have to show you they are working hard, so from time to time they release a news that they killed No.1 or Number 2 or so on. So they can keep on asking for more money and power from you.
No one could prove it except themselves. Even it's a corpse less case, you have to believe it and keep to give your money to them. Otherwise they will say, "The terror attack is inevitable. If you don't obey, then we can't protect you."
Apr 29, 2012
Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March 2011 and many people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.
Damascus blames armed terrorist groups for the country’s year-long unrest, asserting that violent acts are being orchestrated from abroad.
Press TV has conducted an interview with Paul Sheldon Foote, professor at the California State University, Irvine, to further discuss the issue. The following is a rough transcription of the interview.
Press TV: Professor, how would you explain Russia’s stance and position towards Syria?
Foote: I think it’s time that someone started telling the truth about it. It’s very obvious that America, Israel and some Arab countries are behind this terrorism in Syria.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/238688.html
2012-07-25
By John Rosenthal
German intelligence estimates that "around 90" terror attacks that "can be attributed to organizations that are close to al-Qaeda or jihadist groups" were carried out in Syria between the end of December and the beginning of July, as reported by the German daily Die Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ). This was revealed by the German government in a response to a parliamentary question.
http://en.ammonnews.net/article.aspx?articleNO=17300
Al Qaeda is always there when US is in need.
Your information katsung47, is admirable but of course will be ignored by the brave land of the free chest beaters. The more that they are given staright information the more it is scoffed at which shows and tells much as honesty in politics is not a flavour.
by Tony Cartalucci
Global Research, July 27, 2012
US fails to sell militants in Syria as "freedom fighters," tells truth for pretext to liquidate monsters of their own creation.
The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) in its article, "Al Qaeda's War for Syria," cited officials from the US Treasury Department stating, "Al Qaeda in Syria (often operating as the "Al Nusra Front for the People of the Levant") is using traffickers—some ideologically aligned, some motivated by money—to secure routes through Turkey and Iraq for foreign fighters, most of whom are from the Middle East and North Africa. A growing number of donors from the Persian Gulf and Levant appear to be sending financial support."
This undercuts the West's year and a half-long narrative that Syria's violence was the result of a so-called "uprising" by the people of Syria. While the WJS attempts to downplay this admission by claiming, "al Qaeda makes up a small part of the resistance movement," it concedes that, "its strength appears to be rising." In reality, it was Al Qaeda militants from the very beginning, and the only aspect of the conflict "rising" is public awareness of this fact.
Since 2007, US Aided and Abetted Al Qaeda Affiliates Against Syria
A Foreign Invasion, not a Rebellion
The WSJ's article begins with the sentence, "the United States and its allies should consider opening a second front in the Syrian war. In addition to helping end Bashar Assad's rule, there is a growing need to conduct a covert campaign against al Qaeda and other extremist groups gaining a presence in the country."
West Used Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Libya, Is Using Al Qaeda Now in Syria
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=32083
Apr 29, 2012
Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March 2011 and many people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the turmoil.
Damascus blames armed terrorist groups for the country’s year-long unrest, asserting that violent acts are being orchestrated from abroad.
Press TV has conducted an interview with Paul Sheldon Foote, professor at the California State University, Irvine, to further discuss the issue. The following is a rough transcription of the interview.
Press TV: Professor, how would you explain Russia’s stance and position towards Syria?
Foote: I think it’s time that someone started telling the truth about it. It’s very obvious that America, Israel and some Arab countries are behind this terrorism in Syria.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/238688.html
Originally posted by rjhowie:
I would like an answer to that one too considering most of the world situs are caused by America. However if someone has found a magic potion in Chicago then that's fine.
Today, all of the world that counts. Tomorrow, Scotland.
Seriously, Rj, (see above).

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Originally posted by rjhowie:
You need to take a good look in the mirror mjsmsprt40 on your naivety weakness. Time after time you fail to answer Katsung and instead lump me in with him with some self-satisfying smugness. Might suit your limit but you have yet to disprove the main gist of most of his links that come from inside YOUR country. This in turn makes you look silly. When I have asked you in the past to disprove him you adopt a scoffing, immature stance that isn't very enhancing for an intelligent man. Here you have done it yet again! Must be something in the Chicago air? These tactics are the standard fair of the average Joe. Incapable of answering or unable to so dismiss it. Should you be driving lorries?!
I don't answer Katsung anymore because he's a confirmed conspiracy nut. There is a faction within this country which believes that the US government exceeds even Satan himself for doing evil in the world, and Kat is part of that crowd. They make up stuff as they go along to prove how evil they believe the US government is. Even to the point of believing that the government is capable of making that giant earthquake off of the coast of Japan (which, incidentally, is on the Pacific "ring of fire" and is prone to earthquakes) and the EF5 tornado that hit Joplin, MO last year (a tornado in Tornado Alley in the spring--- who'da thunk it?). It couldn't be just because those things happen there, nope it must have been caused by nogoodniks in the government ordering scientists at HAARP to cause them.
Now, I am going to give you a bit of info and you can easily look the rest up yourself. Joplin, Missouri is near the edge of Missouri where it borders Kansas and Oklahoma. In fact, it's within five miles of that border between the three states. If you look that up, it's right on the Northern edges of Tornado Alley. Last year, the weather in that area was generally violent anyway because of the way weather forms in the American Midwest. Do you really think the government needed HAARP to make a tornado there, or do you think maybe the weather could handle that on its own. Do you think, for one minute, that the government could make a EF5 tornado? Katsung says they did.
I do know they've made "tornadoes" in the lab, in wind tunnels to see if they can figure how they form and all that. It's one thing to form a twister in a box, using a fan, and blowing smoke into the box to study air currents. It's quite another thing to form one in open country, with no powered equipment in the vicinity, and hoping that radio waves from HAARP somehow do it.
Now, you ask me to take that kind of crackpot seriously. That Irn Bru must be something else. I don't take him seriously. Now, I have to say I don't take you seriously either. Blind hatred for the States just makes you look-- like something else.
Tornado Alley Facts
when I'm alone, I will look at them
shocked and just whisper quietly
"You can see me?"
13. September 2012, 06:34:22 (edited)
Originally posted by mjmsprt40:
Now, you ask me to take that kind of crackpot seriously. That Irn Bru must be something else. I don't take him seriously. Now, I have to say I don't take you seriously either. Blind hatred for the States just makes you look-- like something else.
Katsung's source? Presstv.
Press TV is a 24-hour English language news network owned by the state-owned media corporation Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). Its headquarters are located in Tehran, Iran. The station has been criticised for its uncritical embrace of provocative stances. For British journalist Nick Cohen the station is "a platform for the full fascist conspiracy theory of supernatural Jewish power"[3] and for commentator Douglas Murray it is the "Iranian government’s propaganda channel".[4]
Rj supports Iranian propaganda machines. Katsung supports Rj. One of those classic love triangles.

'Nuff said?
Hell, it's almost as bad as Fox News.
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Oops! Almost missed something.
Britain Bans Press TV by AFSHIN RATTANSI
For the first time, British government censors have banned a 24-hour news channel from British viewers. As of the afternoon, UK-time, 20th January 2012, viewers of Press TV, an avowedly anti-imperialist TV channel headquartered in Tehran and featuring many of the voices found in CounterPunch, saw the words “Channel Unavailable” when tapping their clicker. And so the war on Iran by Britain, Israel and the U.S. continues using propaganda, proxy militants and asymmetric warfare.
Damned Brits! Where is freedom of speech?
Yesterday's attack on the American ambassador in Libya has been commented, either in a clear or insinuated way, as "proofing their own remedy"...
Now, the alignment of our American posters trying to ridicule rjhowie and Katsung is wrong and symptomatic of the unawareness about the world you live in. One can't confuse nationalism and the defense of his own Country with ignorance. Cohesion is one thing, being blind to the world it's a different one.
Maybe Americans should ask to their government what are they doing that is creating an alignment of positions all over the world, ranging from extreme right to extreme left, from Catholics to Hindus, from poor to rich - all them criticizing the EUA.
rjhowie, Katsungs and the like are just the messengers... and at the "good American way" you are first shooting the messenger.
Yanks don't want to hear anything that distrubs the braining they have been trained into since they were wee. Holding back the tears on th greateness of the land of the free nonsense the flag boys the flag - ithas to ve everywhere except the lavatory. Talk about child mentality. So if you are challenging the lies, distortions and much else somehow you are like going aginst Moses and the tablets re America. I must say mjsmsprt40 you are still epitomsing the average American. Clueless. And Jaybro can wax on about the satircal touch on love affairs. From a land that has had them for dictatorships all over the place it takes the good of that direction away. Kind of gets him away from a strained effort to defend the indefensible. Touche boys.
Quote, "Al Qaeda Blitzkrieg: West’s Terror Battalions Eye Russia Next
By Tony Cartalucci
Global Research, September 01, 2012
Groundwork for Western support of Al Qaeda terrorists in Russia’s Caucasus region.With the US openly supporting, arming, and literally “cheering” for Al Qaedain Syria, it should be no surprise that their support for Al Qaeda’s other operations is now slowly revealing itself. For decades, brutal terrorist campaigns have been carried out in Russia by Al Qaeda’s Caucasus Mountains faction, constituting the backbone of the so-called “Chechen rebels
US is Attempting to Undermine and Overrun the Russian Political Order
http://www.globalresearch.ca/al-qaeda-blitzkrieg-wests-terror-battalions-eye-russia-next/
https://www.facebook.com/usdos.tunisia/posts/10151026629966218
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