On the verge of switching to firefox. Opera gets more buggy every patch.

I've been using Opera for a LONG time now (in fact I already was a fan when it had that ad-banner on the top).
But opera seems to accumulate more and more bugs that do not get fixed. This is a list of problems that REALLY need to be adressed:

1. I set my opera disk cache to 100 mb and told it to empty it's cache on exit. A few days ago I deleted a whopping 20 GB of cached shit from the opera caching folder. It was in thousands and thousands of files and took like 10 minutes to delete.
2. I set the memory cache to 200 mb. Opera uses up to 2 GB of my ram.
3. The longer opera runs, the more CPU it will use. I got a G620 2.6 GHZ 2 core CPU, it will sometimes use 50-100% of my cpu. This usage will not drop until I close opera.
4. Opera takes FOREVER to close. It sometimes takes literally MINUTES until the process disappears.
5. Dragging tabs from one window into another is broken since like 3 patches ago and has not been fixed yet.
6. Sometimes the entire opera window will stop responding until I minimize it.
7. Opera has horrible Flash performance

The current release really feels like a beta
I'm on windows 7 prof. 32bit with 3.5GB ram, Pentium G620 CPU.

Opera by itself can't use more than 50% of a dual-core system. That's not saying that Flash or some similar plug-in can't hog the other core, but on my system even if Opera is completely locked up it never uses more than 50%.

download a pc optimzing tool ,run disk defrag and registry defrag
if on windows 7 disable some of aero effects ..
i feel theres something wrong with ur comp
download service pack 1 this update fixes some performance issues in windows 7

Originally posted by superSriram:

download a pc optimzing tool ,run disk defrag and registry defrag
if on windows 7 disable some of aero effects ..
i feel theres something wrong with ur comp
download service pack 1 this update fixes some performance issues in windows 7

My PC is very clean and tidied up. It's also completely up to date. Windows 7 also defrags on-the-fly. Aero effects won't change opera's performance, just the windows performance. And the difference will be minimal with my PC.

`My PC is very clean and tidied up. It's also completely up to date. Windows 7 also defrags on-the-fly. Aero effects won't change opera's performance, just the windows performance. And the difference will be minimal with my PC.'

It certainly doesn't sound like it, if you are having your memory and cache going out the window, there must be a reason?

Originally posted by DuncanWilliams:

`My PC is very clean and tidied up. It's also completely up to date. Windows 7 also defrags on-the-fly. Aero effects won't change opera's performance, just the windows performance. And the difference will be minimal with my PC.'

It certainly doesn't sound like it, if you are having your memory and cache going out the window, there must be a reason?

Hi,
please don't give me advice when you have no idea what you are talking about. There is only one thing responsible for operas cache & mermory usage, and that is Opera. Windows can not just "inject" stuff into opera to make it slow.

It just so happens, that I do know what I am talking about, take it from there.

Originally posted by DuncanWilliams:

It just so happens, that I do know what I am talking about, take it from there.

would you please stop spamming my thread? I asked for advice, not for stupid comments from people who brag about how they know everything, but don't help at all.

If you are so great, why didn't you post anything productive in the first place ? You just expressed that you believe that my PC is messy, and that that is the reason why opera is buggy, which is rather stupid in the first place, but also does not help with the problem anyway.

try searching the forum for posts similar to yours, ie/ opera use all my memory, if you have a 20 gig cache and the other issues you started this thread with, it seems that you don't really know what you are doing. Other suggestions have been offered, but you seem to know what time of day it is, so read your watch.

Originally posted by DuncanWilliams:

try searching the forum for posts similar to yours, ie/ opera use all my memory, if you have a 20 gig cache and the other issues you started this thread with, it seems that you don't really know what you are doing. Other suggestions have been offered, but you seem to know what time of day it is, so read your watch.

This is your third post in this thread and you still did not say anything productive, in fact, two of your three posts are insults to the OP (me). Also, when opera accumulates 20 gigs of cache, how is that MY responsibility? Shouldn't a program be able to manage it's own files? Ah.. why am I even asking, your response will be another insult again anyway, instead of anything informative.

look, your initial post is sort of inflammatory, ppl are trying to assist you, I am not spamming (especially after 1 comment).
You stated that your win-7 instalation is squeaky clean, etc.
The issues that you raised have been discussed at length in previous posts. It usually turns out to be some setting(s) that are at fault.
I am about to watch series 5 of Dr Who that I just downloaded using opera 11.51, so I can't be of much assistance to you.
However if other ppl make comment, try not to jump down their throat and attack them and you will probably get it sorted.
good luck.

Originally posted by DuncanWilliams:

look, your initial post is sort of inflammatory, ppl are trying to assist you, I am not spamming (especially after 1 comment).
You stated that your win-7 instalation is squeaky clean, etc.
The issues that you raised have been discussed at length in previous posts. It usually turns out to be some setting(s) that are at fault.
I am about to watch series 5 of Dr Who that I just downloaded using opera 11.51, so I can't be of much assistance to you.
However if other ppl make comment, try not to jump down their throat and attack them and you will probably get it sorted.
good luck.

Hey, I'm not trying to be an asshole, but if there is one thing I can't stand is meta-posts on support forums. With meta I mean posts like

- "Use google"
- "Search on the forums"
- "You are stupid for asking that"
- "It's your fault and I won't tell you how to fix it"
- etc.

especially since my initial questions are totally legitimate concerns about opera. If you can't help, or are not willing to help, then please refrain from posting on support forums.

Actually Duncan, regarding at least the issue of the cache growing beyond set limits a recent Opera Next build included a fix for the issue (though apparently one that didn't cover all cases.) And, in my experience, while setting a memory cache limit does have some effect, memory, whether you take working set, private bytes, or virtual size measurements, will still tend to grow beyond that limit; thought there's no real way to know how much of the memory Opera is using is being used for its RAM cache, maybe the RAM cache limit is being respected and the RAM cache is not the biggest hit on Opera's memory usage.

I haven't seen the CPU usage issue myself. When Opera closes for me it did used to take a long time (i.e. the several minutes suggested) but that was fixed a few releases back for me — now Opera either closes in under 30 seconds (still too long perhaps?) or it gets into a state where it will never close (and fully occupy one of my two cores) which is a whole new bug. I was able to drag Windows between tabs, but they would always join a stack, and I couldn't drop on the right hand end of the tabs — I usually use the windows panel anyway however.

Regarding performance the only consistent thing I've seen is a (New) Twitter tab open for a long time (or one where you've scrolled back a long way in the timeline) can affect performance — not sure if that something unoptimised in Opera, or Twitter sending Opera crappy code.

pixartist: Have you submitted bug reports for any of these issues?

Also, At least Firefox has improved enough these days to be a worthy second choice, I'd hate have Opera get so bad I'd consider switching to Chrome, Internet Explorer, or (shudder) Safari.

Thanks for the reply, I often have twitter tabs open for a long time, so this might actually be an issue. Can I somehow disable this tabstacking ? It's annoying, useless and makes no sense.
I think the cpu problem might be connected to running flash in opera (which I do all the time).
Also I find 30 seconds to close a desktop application OUTRAGEOUSLY long. I mean, most new PC games can be closed in a few seconds (at least non-console ports)

well, dr who was great and I'm glad to see you are getting somewhere.

A lot of open tabs will chew up memory.

Leaving your pc on for days on end will slow down your system and chew up resources.

Using free tools to clean out and defragment your system along with deleting the caches will usually speed things up considerably.

I have not experienced long shutdowns but the above mentioned may have some affect on this.

If your cache is correctly set to 100mb then it definitely should not grow to 20gig.

running lots of flash videos may build up in your windows cache if that is not set correctly.

Originally posted by BtEO:

Regarding performance the only consistent thing I've seen is a (New) Twitter tab open for a long time (or one where you've scrolled back a long way in the timeline) can affect performance — not sure if that something unoptimised in Opera, or Twitter sending Opera crappy code.

Considering Twitter made my Chromium crash after leaving it open for a while I'd say it's more likely crappy code from Twitter, period.

Originally posted by pixartist:

Sometimes the entire opera window will stop responding until I minimize it.

i have to agree that for some reason 11.51 goes into non responding a lot more often than i'm used to...a little annoying. i figure they've stopped trying to fix it and focusing efforts on 12.00 which kinda stinks for us

Originally posted by Frenzie:

Considering Twitter made my Chromium crash after leaving it open for a while I'd say it's more likely crappy code from Twitter, period.

That's something else I had considered. Especially considering Facebook's version of the same never-ending list idea doesn't seem to exhibit the same problems for me.