Gmail has become incredibly Slow in Opera 8.5

Gmail has become incredibly Slow in Opera 8.5

Over the course of the last week it has become very difficult for me to get into Gmail using Opera 8.5
I just get the screen of eternal waiting....
Internet Explorer doesn't seem to have this problem.

Yeah, same here. I'm guessing it's a GMail thing and not in Opera's control. The same wait with Opera 9tp1 also. But I eventually get through.
I couldn't get the page to load completely until I realised it was a User.js file preventing it. I have since stopped using User.js files coz I think they interfere with a lot of things and I'm never sure where the problems lies when I encounter oddities. Is it poor web design, is it Opera not functioning properly, is it a User.js file? One of these days I'll learn to write my own.

I've recently experienced similar problems with Gmail. If I start Opera and login to Gmail everything works fine, but then sometimes, if I reload (not from cache) I get stuck at the "Loading" screen. I also sometimes get stuck if I've logged out and then log back in again because I forgot to do something.

This may be a Gmail issue, but it's also true that Opera has had persistent Gmail troubles, while Firefox works more or less flawlessly with Gmail, which is why this longtime (paid) user of Opera has reluctantly abandoned it.

I just recently started having similar issues with gmail. The screen stay at "Loading.." forever.

Any ideas on how to fix?

Thanks

Originally posted by mtg42:

I just recently started having similar issues with gmail. The screen stay at "Loading.." forever.

Any ideas on how to fix?

Thanks

Try making changes in your ua.ini. Change all the gmail entries to =4. This worked for me.

I had the same thing happen recently..I just tried changing to Idenitfy as Mozilla and it loaded fine.

(I know, it's heresy to not ID as Opera )

I'll have to try the ua edit, hadn't seen that until now, thx!

Originally posted by jbesser:

This may be a Gmail issue, but it's also true that Opera has had persistent Gmail troubles, while Firefox works more or less flawlessly with Gmail, which is why this longtime (paid) user of Opera has reluctantly abandoned it.

That's because GMail only test their site with FF, not Opera. If they did then the problems won't happen.

You really should complain to GMail about this.

I've noticed things like this, among other things.

GMail (and other Google AJAX apps, including Google Maps) causes the entire system to become unresponsive when loaded in Opera. However, it's not loading my CPU, and it's not swapping. It's just slowing down the entire system.

In addition, Google's AJAX apps have begun causing Opera crashes after a few hours. Opera will give a "The instruction (whatever) has referenced memory at (whatever really low address). The memory could not be "written"." I'm fairly sure it's GMail, as switching GMail to basic mode clears up the poor performance and the instability.

Originally posted by bhtooefr:

I've noticed things like this, among other things.

GMail (and other Google AJAX apps, including Google Maps) causes the entire system to become unresponsive when loaded in Opera. However, it's not loading my CPU, and it's not swapping. It's just slowing down the entire system.

In addition, Google's AJAX apps have begun causing Opera crashes after a few hours. Opera will give a "The instruction (whatever) has referenced memory at (whatever really low address). The memory could not be "written"." I'm fairly sure it's GMail, as switching GMail to basic mode clears up the poor performance and the instability.

I use an AJAX based app called Kayako eSupport - the first few times you load the ticket list it's snappy but it slowly degrades up to the point where it just wont load at all in Opera 9 (haven't tested with 8).

cg

Originally posted by closet geek:

I use an AJAX based app called Kayako eSupport - the first few times you load the ticket list it's snappy but it slowly degrades up to the point where it just wont load at all in Opera 9 (haven't tested with 8).

The same problem persists with Opera8 too. First it was ActiveX and now it is this. I dont think complainingto Google would help matters. It works in FireFox and it works in IE, Netscape and Mozilla do not have a problem either. Safari has no issues, it is only Opera that has issues, so i guess Opera should do something about it..

My 2 paise...

Originally posted by closet geek:

I use an AJAX based app called Kayako eSupport - the first few times you load the ticket list it's snappy but it slowly degrades up to the point where it just wont load at all in Opera 9 (haven't tested with 8).

The same problem persists with Opera8 too. First it was ActiveX and now it is this. I dont think complainingto Google would help matters. It works in FireFox and it works in IE, Netscape and Mozilla do not have a problem either. Safari has no issues, it is only Opera that has issues, so i guess Opera should do something about it..

My 2 paise...

I've upgraded to 8.51, and the AJAX slowness still affects it.

I'm going to attempt to install a parallel 8.02 install, and see if it's affected, as that's a known good version.

If 8.02 is also affected, it's something Google did. If it isn't, it's something Opera did.

EDIT: IN PRELIMINARY TESTING, OPERA 8.02 IS NOT AFFECTED BY THESE PROBLEMS.

I am going to attempt testing with a fresh 8.51 install, as well, so that I can see if it's variations in installs, or variations in versions.

EDIT 2: IN PRELIMINARY TESTING, OPERA 8.51 (under the same conditions as Opera 8.02 - fresh install, first site being gmail.google.com) HAD SLIGHT FREEZES!

I think we can chalk this one up as a regression.

EDIT 3: TjL suggested that I try it in Opera 9.0 TP1. So I did. Slightly faster than Opera 8.51, but still freezy.

OPERA! PLEASE FIX THIS!

I'm reverting to 8.02 (after all, if 8.5 weren't free, 8.51 would be called 8.04...)

EDIT 4: In further testing, it appears that it's not actually 8.02 related. First, Opera 8.02 did the same thing when unleashed on my 8.51 profile.

Erasing all Google cookies and setting it to ID as Internet Explorer clears the freezing right up.

heres how to always get gmail to work past the loading page:
F12
identify as mozilla
i gaurentee this will work.

this is vivid proof that google is anti-opera
its not a compatability issue, rather i believe there is some coding somewhere deep within gmail's source that purposefully blocks opera headers at random times. i think this because google adsense is paying up to $1 american to people who link to firefox download and that person downloads firefox. google is teaming with firefox to attempt to remove opera and IE from the picture. 8@$74RD5.

on a seperate but somewhat related note- on ebay, the drop down menus for 'actions' like contact seller, mark item unpaid and the likes in 'my ebay' seem to only work for me when i'm set to identify as opera.....
weird.
google and ebay seem to be taking sides.... could be just me though.

Please note that you can also change the following lines (they already exist) in your ua.ini:

gmail.google.com=1
gmail.com=1
mail.google.com=1

to:

gmail.google.com=2
gmail.com=2
mail.google.com=2

(for ID as Mozilla)

or:

gmail.google.com=3
gmail.com=3
mail.google.com=3

(for ID as IE)

Originally posted by trollop:

I couldn't get the page to load completely until I realised it was a User.js file preventing it. I have since stopped using User.js files coz I think they interfere with a lot of things and I'm never sure where the problems lies when I encounter oddities.

Reading this post I've checked if stickies.js interferes with Gmail, and... yes, poorly it does. I apologize for this bug and for eventual hassle it has given, but I don't know which is the cause: if someone figures out how to fix it please email me (or post in this thread, or reply to this post) and I'll apply the suggestion, thanks.

PS for trollop: you can avoid completely stopping using user scripts, as I know there's a bookmarklet for turning them on/off on the fly ;)

And, just for good measure, I've made the changes to set GMail to ID as IEOpera (setting 3, same as F12>"Identify as Internet Explorer"), and they work.

Looking back at your post, f4te, I suspect that eBay has a couple versions of their code, one of which doesn't work with Opera, and one which does. So, when IDing as Opera, it sends code that works in Opera.

this affected me also several weeks ago. i had to use Firefox in order to access my Gmail. this annoyed me so much until last night when i looked for something to do about it. i searched these forums for a solution.
i always identify my Opera AS Opera. i DO however set my ua.ini file as:
gmail.com=1
gmail.google.com=1
mail.google.com=1

last night i followed someone's advice to identify as IE. it worked...up until the 2nd time i accessed Gmail (which was this morning)
i THEN identified it as Mozilla, & it ALSO worked only the first time. then, no matter what i did, Gmail kept hanging with the "Loading..." text at the top.
Now i can access it whenever when i 'empty the disk cache' in Preferences/Advanced/History beforehand.

Interesting... works every time here... I've accessed it three or four separate times...

I've found that following the suggestion of someone else on this form to change all the google/gmail settings in ua.ini to =4 seems to have worked for me with Opera 8.51

Originally posted by heronheart:

Over the course of the last week it has become very difficult for me to get into Gmail using Opera 8.5
§I just get the screen of eternal waiting....
§Internet Explorer doesn't seem to have this problem.

I could not read some of my newest messages, but I could read most of my old messages. Turning off pop-up blocker worked.