Opera Mobile(Symbian) Flash Lite Support

FLASH LITE SUPPORT NEEDED FOR SYMBIAN PHONES
FLASH LITE IS SUPPORTED IN ANDROID WHY NOT IN SYMBIANS
PLEASE ADD FLASH LITE IN THE NEXT UPDATE
THANK U!!!!


I hav opera Mobile 11.1
when i go
to YouTube it plays only through
the standard player which is the
real player and no option to switch
to flash player,while on Nokia
default browser flash player works
and there is an option to choose
which player(flash on standard
player)please add support for flash lite!!!!

yeah flash lite is there for android and not for symbian
it may come soon

looks like none of the symbian/s60 users wants flash lite support for opera mobile

I second the importance for flash support on symbian

flash is very important

!!!!! flash and stability and new features!!!! needed

Yes, flash support for symbian very important.

Originally posted by superSriram:

looks like none of the symbian/s60 users wants flash lite support for opera mobile

believe symbian user, esp s60 get tired of asking/requesting/waiting for no hope for long ago. Dont bother anymore. Even if would have it today, will be used for long once new flash update apply in web/youtube.

flash needed if Nokia browser has it why not opera

Oh yeah, Flash lite for Opera Mobile would be really cool .

+1 for Flash. Lots of popular web sites use embedded Flash video and are essentially crippled at the moment using Opera Mobile and Mini.

Won't HTML5 negate the need for a plugin anyway?

Originally posted by brainreset:

Won't HTML5 negate the need for a plugin anyway?

Maybe in two or three years, yes. But right now there are millions of sites with Flash content that's not accessible. And older Symbian devices may not be able to process HTML5 content if and when it becomes widely used.

Flash Support for Symbian Phones can be a huge market plan for Opera Mobile.

Please be reminded that not all people own an android device and with that said. I hope that you will not disregard the symbian interface for it can also support flash contents.

If the crappy nokia browser can make its flash content available through its browser, then why can't the Opera Mobile Browser be equipped with the same function?

may be opera mobile 12 will have flash lite support
which may be released in 2012 january

Originally posted by undecided4:

Flash Support for Symbian Phones can be a huge market plan for Opera Mobile.

Please be reminded that not all people own an android device and with that said. I hope that you will not disregard the symbian interface for it can also support flash contents.

If the crappy nokia browser can make its flash content available through its browser, then why can't the Opera Mobile Browser be equipped with the same function?

Agreed. It's not like Flash is suddenly gone from the Internet. It'll take time for HTML5 to become widely used and standard on web pages. And what about older web pages? It doesn't make sense to not include it now while Flash is still so ubiquitous.

Originally posted by superSriram:

may be opera mobile 12 will have flash lite support
which may be released in 2012 january

Hope so. It would extend the life of Symbian devices considerably.

it will amazing especially watching flash videos

yeah flash support needed!!!!

Anyone know what the minimum amount of RAM is needed for a mobile device to play flash content without crashing? But if memory was an issue, then a Nokia E71 with 128MB probably wouldn't be able to play YouTube in its browser

My i8910 phone is three years old and has 256MB, with about 145MB remaining while it's running, and approximately 127MB after launching Opera Mobile.

Excuse me: Adobe has discontinued Flash Player for Mobiles recently - http://news.softpedia.com/news/Adobe-Officially-Kills-Flash-on-Mobile-Browsers-Chooses-HTML5-Instead-233446.shtml

That means Adobe won't be developing Flash for the mobile platforms. Also Flash Lite was discontinued quite earlier.

-1, use HTML5 videos for your Symbian/S60 - but don't worry you are not alone - The Android users will also have to use HTML5 videos soon; they can't stay with an old version of Flash Player forever.

Hi, yes I read that too. Although I think it might still be possible to include whatever Flash Lite version exists now into Opera Mobile; at least give it some functionality of Flash now as opposed to nothing at all.

My concern is the hardware requirements of HTML5 being beyond the capabilities of S60v5 and other recent smartphones. Unless there's an HTML5 Lite...

thats sad!!! but opera mobile 11.5 is amazing!!!

Originally posted by avoidz:

Although I think it might still be possible to include whatever Flash Lite version exists now into Opera Mobile; at least give it some functionality of Flash now as opposed to nothing at all.

That's much effort for a little gain. If Wikipedia is right, Flash Lite 4.0 is the latest version - but it was released in 2010. Also, Opera's main target is the Android OS.
Adobe has admitted that Steve Jobs was right and HTML5 is right for the mobiles. It's a couple of months remaining when developers would be switching to HTML5.

Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

Adobe has admitted that Steve Jobs was right and HTML5 is right for the mobiles. It's a couple of months remaining when developers would be switching to HTML5.

Yeah... But it wasn't just about what Steve Jobs said. Of course it didn't make business sense for him to support Adobe, and protecting Apple at all costs is what mattered to him.

Many others over the years have wished for the end of Flash and its crashes and resource hogging—and they are probably right (although Adobe have being dragging their feet at fixing the problems with Flash). Maybe it's just that the time has come for Adobe's reign of media enhancement for the web is near the end and for something else to take its place, and mobile technology accelerated the change.

Still, is it so much effort to incorporated some Flash function into Opera Mobile now?

Originally posted by avoidz:

Still, is it so much effort to incorporated some Flash function into Opera Mobile now?

Sure it isn't but it isn't of any use - by the time Opera Mobile team prepares Flash Lite on Symbian/S60, the webmasters would be targeting HTML5 videos.

Though the transition to HTML5 Video will take some time - and it will also decide who won the fight: Microsoft and Apple (H.264 supporters) or Chrome, Opera and Firefox [WebM supporters (with Google being developer)]. Hopefully WebM wins.

But will three-year-old Symbian devices be powerful enough to render HTML5? Can Opera Mobile use hardware acceleration of the phone?

Originally posted by avoidz:

Can Opera Mobile use hardware acceleration of the phone?

If Nokia was kind enough to include OpenGL ES 2.0 support - then it is possible. But I am not sure whether Opera Mobile supports hardware acceleration on Symbian.

Originally posted by avoidz:

But will three-year-old Symbian devices be powerful enough to render HTML5?

I cannot say anything for sure but your browsing experience with HTML5 videos should be better than if Opera Mobile used Flash Lite.

Flash is bad. That may be stupid but it's true. Firstly, Nokia phones doesn't have sufficient amount of ram to run flash player. Secondly, Adobe doens't present an Symbian Flash Player. Opera, therefore, isn't be able to support non released product. Thirdly, web is awesome but flash. Death of Flash on Mobile will bring real web experience via HTML5. People should be patient.

what engine skyfire to play flash ?

opera mobile 12 should have flash lite 4 or html5 support!!!

Originally posted by superSriram:

opera mobile 12 should have flash lite 4 or html5 support!!!

Opera Mobile already has HTML5 support. Also as per http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/opera-mobile-11-for-android-and-symbian Opera Mobile, both for Android and Symbian supports HTML5 Audio/Video.

What are you all talking about? OM11 has Flash on my NOKIA C5-00, I downloaded it from Nokia Store, I can even watch Youtube!

Originally posted by greench:

Flash is bad. That may be stupid but it's true. Firstly, Nokia phones doesn't have sufficient amount of ram to run flash player. Secondly, Adobe doens't present an Symbian Flash Player. Opera, therefore, isn't be able to support non released product.

Then how are Nokia phones like the C5 (Symbian OS 9.3 and 128 MB RAM) and E71 (with Symbian OS 9.2 and 128 MB RAM) able to play Flash video natively in their own browsers but Opera Mobile is not on my i8910 phone with Symbian OS 9.4 and 256 MB RAM?

e.g.

my E7 plays fantastic flash videos on the native browser. and the native browser on my device isn't what i'd call crappy at all. It's got tabbed browsing, multitouch pinch to zoom, kinetic scrolling, full ecma scripting/css support. it uses hardware acceleration, my device has a dedicated broadcom graphics accelerator (GPU). seems like nokia has finally got things right. symbian anna is awsome. to be honest, i hardly use opera mobile since i got this phone. i use opera mini on 2.5G, and the native browser on 3.5G/WiFi.
I've been using opera since my teens, i'm 27 now. i seriously don't want to stop using opera mobile. Devs, please see if you can get flash lite, and make opera mobile as resource efficient as the E7 browser, if not better. i'm sure you can do it. you guys are way better than nokia. :-)

if the nokia default browser v7 can play flash content why not opera mobile 11.5 ,firefox mobile 9 has addons
Firefox mobile 9 has html5 score of 313 and opera mobile 11.5 has 286
opera mobile has to bring in more features before firefox mobile takes over!!

http://html5test.com/

flash and stability, conneckting..needed

pls does opera mini support flash player in Nokia e5

Originally posted by ehigwespecial:

pls does opera mini support flash player in Nokia e5

no

Opera mobile 12 should have it ...

Originally posted by srikv17694:

Opera mobile 12 should have it ...

I love you and I want to have your babies

HTML 5 is years away from matching Flash, so it should still be supported!

want opera mobile with flash like skyfire browser in symbian

why not flash for newer symbian phones(ie symbian^3 phones).these devices has gpu and runs on minimum 680 mhz processor which may be upgrade to 772 mhz via next update.the times goes when people used to say that nokia hangs all the time.just compare sony walkman w8 with my nokia c6-01 .my phones beat w8.i am just wants to tell that nokia devices are not weak enough to handle flash

if flash would be supported I can say Opera Symbian could really play Facebook games through browser... But yes count me in flash is very important ingredients of web.

Originally posted by mrbrowsegierza:

if flash would be supported I can say Opera Symbian could really play Facebook games through browser... But yes count me in flash is very important ingredients of web.

you cant play facebook games with flash lite 4 you need flash 11,nokia already has flash lite 4 in inbuilt browser