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24. September 2011, 06:45:26

shinraa

Posts: 4

Terrible rendering of Asian characters

Hello to everyone,

Just decided to switch to Opera a week ago, but I am experiencing a very bad issue with Asian languages character rendering (specifically Chinese, Japanese and Korean). Characters always look bold and are poorly aligned with the rest of the text (for example, if a site title is in Chinese, it appears half hidden in the tabs as it is aligned a few pixel upper than normal text).
Is this a know issue? Is there someway to fix that?
Thanks,

ShinRa

26. September 2011, 09:13:10

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daniel

Mac product tester, Opera Software

Posts: 1287

Does it improve when setting the operating system language to the text language?

26. September 2011, 10:06:16

sujalu

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Posts: 89

enable east asian language supportin XP. By the way which OS are you using?
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28. September 2011, 06:26:43

shinraa

Posts: 4

Originally posted by daniel:

Does it improve when setting the operating system language to the text language?



It indeed does. Setting to Japanese improves also Chinese text and viceversa.
Though I'd rather not have my system language set to either of those. Is there a workaround for this?

Originally posted by sujalu:

enable east asian language supportin XP. By the way which OS are you using?



Not sure what are you talking about.
I am using Mac Os X 10.6.3, by the way.

Thanks for the tips,

ShinRa

28. September 2011, 07:59:50

sujalu

Opera Fan

Posts: 89

In Windows XP, you have to enable east asian language support.

Control panel --> regional language and settings -->languages.

There are 2 check boxes

Install files for complex script (left to right) including Thai.
Install files for east asian languages

After checking both boxes, display problems are solved.

I do not know how to make it working in Mac OS.
Acceptance = Relief | Resistance = Stress
Be not a traitor in your thoughts. Do everything that is necessary in proper time - SRK
Strength becomes Habit, Habit becomes Weakness.
I like KISS principle - Keep It Straight and Simple

28. September 2011, 09:13:17

shinraa

Posts: 4

Thanks for the tip, but Asian Language support is built-in in Mac OS X and I don't have to enable anything. Besides, it works wonders in anything but Opera.

Daniel seems to be aware of what kind of problem I am encountering. And I eagerly await for any known solution, as I would like to switch to Opera, but this issue is a huge turn off for me.

Thanks anyways Sujalu,

神羅

28. September 2011, 09:43:55

sujalu

Opera Fan

Posts: 89

Yes, Daniel is the right guy, he is testing opera in mac
Acceptance = Relief | Resistance = Stress
Be not a traitor in your thoughts. Do everything that is necessary in proper time - SRK
Strength becomes Habit, Habit becomes Weakness.
I like KISS principle - Keep It Straight and Simple

28. September 2011, 15:41:29

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daniel

Mac product tester, Opera Software

Posts: 1287

We have a bug with font switching for CJK languages not working correctly when the system language is set to a non JCK language.

1. October 2011, 17:24:19

kssryo

Posts: 1

Hello,
I am having the same problem, but ONLY on websites that is in primarily not an Asian language.

(for example)
My problem was noticeable on Facebook, with Japanese fonts. Kana is fine, but the Kanji are all bold and pretty difficult to read.
The funny thing was, when I changed the Facebook language to Japanese (the option at the footer), there was no rendering problem whatsoever.

Tested this out and visited a bunch of other Japanese websites and had no problem, but on English websites with a mix of both languages, there the problem was again!

3. October 2011, 06:02:06

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daniel

Mac product tester, Opera Software

Posts: 1287

Originally posted by kssryo:

I am having the same problem, but ONLY on websites that is in primarily not an Asian language.

(for example)
My problem was noticeable on Facebook, with Japanese fonts. Kana is fine, but the Kanji are all bold and pretty difficult to read.
The funny thing was, when I changed the Facebook language to Japanese (the option at the footer), there was no rendering problem whatsoever.


This is because when you set Facebook to be in Japanese, then they add a lang=ja attribute to the document. Which gives Opera’s font switching the information it needs to pick the correct font. Sites that either contain language information or information about what font to use (a font that looks good in Japanese) will never be a problem.

When you set Opera’s language to Japanese (well, the system language on Macs) then we will default to a font that looks better in Japanese than in English. So you will get the opposite problem.

Had Facebook surrounded the Japanese content in a tag with the lang=ja attribute then this would not have been a problem. You can see my rants about the lack of content language identification on social networks on my public Facebook and Twitter profiles.

3. October 2011, 08:15:10

shinraa

Posts: 4

Thanks for your reply Daniel.
Glad this is a known bug and people are working on it. Thanks also to kssryo for pointing out that thing.
I will eagerly wait for this bug to be fixed.

Keep up the good work!

ShinRa

23. December 2011, 09:39:53

mrtvola

Posts: 2

I have similar problem with Chinese character in Opera 11.6 on Mac OS X Lion. For example web page http://www.mdbg.net (English - Chinese dictionary) , there left menu has strange rendering. When we write Chinese text into text box so I can see only bottom part of text.
For example web page http://baidu.com/ doesn't have problem. Google translator also has problem, when I want to translate words nihao from Chinese to English so below Google writes "Did you mean: 你好" but these Chinese words has problem, underline is very far from words.

I found next problem in Opera for Mac. OSX Lion supports dictionary through every application but Opera don't support this function. Double click with three finger opens tooltip with dictionary.

28. December 2011, 05:18:56

maxart

Posts: 4

Definitely an annoying issue. Like everyone else, I am still seeing this issue on Mac OS X Lion 10.7.2, and the latest Opera/Opera Next versions.

I have reported it a while back (DSK-344401), and I too hope for it to be fixed. (this bug is non existent in other browsers on Mac - no matter what language is set as the default OS language).

Note: Issues also happen with special characters (ex: ★)

Some screen captures:
http://cl.ly/0T0s0F0p1A0K20300j1s
http://cl.ly/470x1c2q1v1B3H271W1t
http://cl.ly/153g0C3K1f1I3X3L2q34
http://cl.ly/0F2I2i3p3Y2A3j192Z3c

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