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11. October 2011, 06:32:46

Hibou57

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What is the valid plugin API documentation ?

Hello people out there,

Seeking for Opera plugin API documentation, I found two.



Which is the valid one ? The second is the newer than the first, but does not imply this is the valid one.

-- EDIT -- Oops, just understood the the second is not for plugin, this seems to refer to the opera object from JavaScript only.
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11. October 2011, 07:48:32

Hibou57

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Unfortunately, neither one of these documents talks about what I need: a plugin which plugs to the embedded mail client. Is that possible ?
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11. October 2011, 09:06:22

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alex-shpak

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As far as I know, it's impossible to "plug" anything to the embedded mail client. At best, you can change layout of dialogs (like, "Contact properties"), and show more headers while viewing the message, but nothing more.

11. October 2011, 22:38:21

Hibou57

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This is for an attempt to give Opera, a plugin for a service, in France (https://www.signal-spam.fr/), for signaling spams (a service with official supports). They provide plugins for Outlook, Tender Bird, but none for Opera.

If that is really not possible, I will fallback to an explicit export of the spam folder into an MBS file, then submit spam reports via an application rather than via a plugin. Manually submitting spam reports via the online form, is fat too much tedious when you receive as much as an average 25 spams a day.

Question: what is the spams folder made for in Opera, if there is no way to plug something to the mail client ?
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12. October 2011, 05:23:23

I'm not sure why exactly plugin is required. In other solutions that I saw spam was marked by modifying subject of message, for example, by prepending text "[SPAM] " to it. Then user was able to filter these messages. Maybe, you can use the same approach too.

As you can see, spam folder in Opera can catch messages by subject. So, it can work without plugin.

12. October 2011, 18:22:59

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alex-shpak

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No, Sergey, that's not what Hibou57 is talking about. The idea of signal-spam.fr is this: you upload spam messages to them, and they do something with it.

Hibou57, I'm afraid you're out of luck with that...

12. October 2011, 18:39:03

Ok, I see now. Of course, in this context rewriting subject is not relevant.

14. October 2011, 03:22:45

spadija

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Originally posted by Hibou57:

Question: what is the spams folder made for in Opera, if there is no way to plug something to the mail client ?


If you use an IMAP service such as Gmail, Opera will link its spam folder to the service's spam folder (if it doesn't do it automatically, you can configure it through the IMAP tab of the account's properties window). Otherwise, it just works like a regular spam folder. By marking things as spam/not spam, you teach Opera what spam is, then it automatically filters stuff.

Also, take a look at AutoIT. You might be able to use it to create a script that automatically exports the spam folder.

14. October 2011, 13:28:13

Hibou57

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Originally posted by spadija:

Also, take a look at AutoIT. You might be able to use it to create a script that automatically exports the spam folder.


Great! That's at least a first step.
Thanks Spadija
-- edit -- just looked at it, this is not good, this is a GUI scripting. I am personally running Ubuntu, not Windows, and further more, I would like something clean to make it a distributable plug-in -- end of edit --

P.S. my Opera does not filter spam automatically. Is this an option ?

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14. October 2011, 14:38:54

spadija

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Originally posted by Hibou57:

P.S. my Opera does not filter spam automatically. Is this an option ?


http://help.opera.com/Windows/11.50/en/mail.html#spam. If it's not catching anything, you can increase the spam filter strength, or you might just need to manually mark a few messages a spam to teach Opera what is spam.

As for the scripting thing, since Opera doesn't provide a plugin interface that does what you want, GUI scripting is just about the only option. AutoIT does provide a way to compile a script into a standalone executable, but that doesn't really help if you aren't on Windows. You could try building an Opera action to export things, but I don't know if that's possible.

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