How to Make Notes a Tab

Greetings,

Do any of you who are very familiar with Opera know how to make Notes (or anything in the panel) into a tab? I had it set that way and then Opera crashed and when it restarted my Notes were no longer a tab. I like to pin the notes as a tab so they are always at the top of the screen but cannot figure out how to do that.

Thank you.

Menu > appearance > Panels. Set panel placement to floating.

Perfect, thank you very much.

Actually, that's not the right method, even if it does solve your problem. There's a manager tab for several of the panels. Click the >> icon on the panel toolbar to open the notes manager tab. If its no longer there, replace it from the Custom Appearance dialogue.

Originally posted by Pesala:

Actually, that's not the right method, even if it does solve your problem. There's a manager tab for several of the panels. Click the >> icon on the panel toolbar to open the notes manager tab. If its no longer there, replace it from the Custom Appearance dialogue.

How does that place the note tab on the top with all the other tabs?

Originally posted by 777mikejody:

How does that place the note tab on the top with all the other tabs?

Try it and see.

Originally posted by gdveggie:

FWIW, the Manage button (>> or ») was not on any of my default Opera 11.01 Panels

Its not on the the Notes Panel toolbar, but it is on the Panels Toolbar.


» Drag to create a button. Click to manage notes.

Originally posted by gdveggie:

In my setup, I'm understanding the Panels Toolbar to be the vertical bar on the left side with all the panels icons

Nope. That's the Panel Selector Toolbar — I have moved it to the bottom of the panels. The Panels toolbar changes depending on which panel is displayed. The Note Panel Toolbar is unique to the Notes Panel, and as I said that does not include the notes manager button by default.

Originally posted by gdveggie:

I thought you meant 2 different bars (Panels Toolbar & Notes Panel toolbar) in separate locations on the GUI

I did.

Originally posted by Pesala:

ts not on the the Notes Panel toolbar, but it is on the Panels Toolbar.

But I see now that its not on there by default — only on my customised toolbar setup.

» Drag the custom button link and put that on the Notes Panel Toolbar.

BTW The official name of the "Panel Toolbar" I am talking about is the [Hotlist Panel Header.content]

Originally posted by Pesala:

There's a manager tab for several of the panels. Click the >> icon on the panel toolbar to open the notes manager tab. If its no longer there, replace it from the Custom Appearance dialogue.

FWIW, the Manage button (>> or ») was not on any of my default Opera 11.01 Panels (so I'm guessing maybe you've added them to some of yur Panels over the years ?).

...But as you indicated, it is available under Panels on the Custom Appearance Buttons tab (Shift+F12 > Buttons > Panels, for those unfamiliar with this).

Pretty nifty!

However, when I click the Manage button (>> or »), it opens a window rather than a tab, whether or not I have "Open windows instead of tabs" checked (Ctrl+F12 > Advanced > Tabs > Additional tab options > Open windows instead of tabs).

That's fine for me, because that's the way I prefer it. ...But I don't see or recall how to have it open as a tab instead (i.e., so it could be pinned on the Tab Bar as 777mikejody is requesting).

Originally posted by Pesala:

Its not on the the Notes Panel toolbar, but it is on the Panels Toolbar.

Just wanting to see if I'm understanding what you're calling the Panels Toolbar. In my setup, I'm understanding the Panels Toolbar to be the vertical bar on the left side with all the panels icons, and the Notes Panel Toolbar to be the horizontal bar across the top of these images. Is that correct?

If so, the Manage button doesn't seem to be on either one in my default Opera 11.01 installation (first image). But I've added it to the Notes Panel Toolbar in the second image (see mouse pointer).



...I also just realized that if I move it to the Panels Toolbar (left side), maybe the same button could be used for whichever panel was open (instead of having to add it to each individual panel). ??? ...Do you know?

...I'm too tired to experiment more with it right now, but maybe will try that later.

Originally posted by Pesala:

Its not on the the Notes Panel toolbar, but it is on the Panels Toolbar.

OK, I thought you meant 2 different bars (Panels Toolbar & Notes Panel toolbar) in separate locations on the GUI, but I now think was thinking (see later hypothesis below) you're referring to the same physical location on the GUI layout, with Panels Toolbar being the general name for that location, and Notes Panel Toolbar being the specific name for it when the Notes Panel is displayed, as it is at the top of my images (i.e., the one that has the Manage button in it on the second image.

But maybe you mean that in my configuration that location is always called the Panels Toolbar (even though the name changes to match the displayed panel), and that the Notes Panel Toolbar is the one just below that with Add, Send, and a search field in my images, which also changes (functionality, not just name) depending on the panel displayed.

In fact, as I writing, that is making more sense to me, because that is where I first placed the Manage button when I first found it above, and I didn't like how it shortened the search field (where it defaulted to when I tried to place it in the open space to the right of Send) so I removed it. And that's when it did not persist from one panel to the next so I was wondering if a single Manage button in a different location would apply to all panels. I just noticed that in the new location where I placed it to take the snapshot, it persists in that location for all panels, and works for all panels, so I guess I've answered that question.

So now I'm thinking you mean where I have placed the Manage Button in the second image is the Panels Toolbar in my config, and the Add/Send/Search area below it is the Notes Panel toolbar. Correct? ...(...At any rate, I certainly have myself convinced right now )

...But even if that is correct, I still don't understand what you mean about "it is on the Panels Toolbar." As I said, it wasn't on any bar in my default installation until I dragged it from the Buttons tab (Panels Category) of the Custom Appearance dialog (Shift+F12 > Buttons > Panels.

...So what do you mean when you say "it is on the Panels Toolbar" ?

Originally posted by Pesala:

But I see now that its not on there by default

OK, that's all I was trying to get at. (emphasis added and typo correction below) ▼

Originally posted by gdveggie:

not on any of my default Opera 11.01 Panels (so I'm guessing maybe you've added them to some of your Panels over the years ?)

Originally posted by Pesala:

BTW The official name of the "Panel Toolbar" I am talking about is the [Hotlist Panel Header.content]

Yes, that helps, because [Hotlist Panel Header.content] is where the button I already added in my image above appears in my standard_toolbar.ini.

...so now I finally know for sure we're talking about the same bar in that case.

I wasn't clear why you posted your button since the one I had already found and added seems to function as you described to manage any selected panel. However, I see that your button specifies the Notes Panel as the one to be Managed. So I dragged it to the same bar as mine (maybe not where you intended, as that is the "Panel Toolbar" [Hotlist Panel Header.content] and you said to drag it to the "Notes Panel Toolbar") and I find that it works to open the Notes Management window regardless of which panel is open.

For example, here's a screenshot of it on the Panel Toolbar while my History Panel is selected. If I click on my button to the right of it, the Manage History window opens. But if I click on your button, the Manage Notes window opens, even though the History Panel is selected. I presume that is what you intended, so that it is always available to Manage Notes. (?)



Let me know if I've misunderstood something.

But if I finally "get it" all, the one remaining question in my mind would be the one at the end of my first post above about how to get the Manage Notes window to open as a tab so it could be pinned on the Tab Bar, per OP's preference. If I recall correctly, the default installation has all those Manage Panel windows open in a Tab (that could be pinned) instead of a separate window.

But I always tweak my setting to get Manage Bookmarks, Downloads, Feeds, etc. in a separate window. AFAICR, I just select "Open windows instead of tabs" (Ctrl+F12 > Advanced > Tabs > Additional tab options > Open windows instead of tabs). But now I find that all the Manage windows open in a separate window whether or not I have selected "Open windows instead of tabs."

Like I said above, that's fine with me because that's how I prefer it. But I'm puzzled why I can't get them back to Tabs. (seems like there might have been a second step I'm forgetting).

I suppose an alternative would be to drag your button anywhere one wanted it (Tab Bar, Status Bar, Personal Bar, etc) and use it instead of a pinned Tab, but not quite what the OP was wanting.