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27. October 2011, 00:27:14

My Opera Community inside Facebook.

This lets you use my-opera in facebook.
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams
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* nvidia geforce 6200 - 512mb agp 8x * AOC 24" @ 1920by1200 * 3G mobile broadband * Opera 12 / Chromium 18
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams

28. October 2011, 13:47:20

pvb48

Posts: 20

Unfortunately it doesn't work for me!

I'm using Opera 10.63 on Win XP3 and it just shows the usual Opera/Facebook blank screen, with the headers.
Any suggestions?

29. October 2011, 01:24:26

you need to log into facebook for it to work.
peppermint-3 (linux) * Celeron 2800 * 1.5 gig ddr-400 ram
* nvidia geforce 6200 - 512mb agp 8x * AOC 24" @ 1920by1200 * 3G mobile broadband * Opera 12 / Chromium 18
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams

29. October 2011, 09:27:40

pvb48

Posts: 20

you need to log into facebook for it to work.

Well obviously. Do you mean I need to be logged in before following the link? If I follow the link and log in it doesn't make any difference
to the usual Opera/Facebook blank screen.

29. October 2011, 14:22:30

@ gdveggie
Its designed to run inside facebook and be mobile phone friendly.
It has been tested on different pc's and phones with opera and chrome.
It will get affected by zoom levels , etc.
Do post some screenshots and I will look into it.
Also non standard fonts and themes may possibly affect the layout.
It should hold up to most things though.

@ pvb48

Well obviously. Do you mean I need to be logged in before following the link? If I follow the link and log in it doesn't make any difference
to the usual Opera/Facebook blank screen.


I don't know what you mean by `blank screen'
Facebook and this facebook page both work in Opera.
peppermint-3 (linux) * Celeron 2800 * 1.5 gig ddr-400 ram
* nvidia geforce 6200 - 512mb agp 8x * AOC 24" @ 1920by1200 * 3G mobile broadband * Opera 12 / Chromium 18
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams

30. October 2011, 05:07:38 (edited)

@ gdveggie
Since it is designed it to run inside Facebook, maybe it would look different if I were logged in ??? (but I don't have a Facebook account to check that)

A facebook account is a free simple event, all it requires is an email address.
(800 million members - A lot of new facebook stuff around - secure environment when logged in)


Or maybe it's the mobile phone friendly design ???
As is, it could be used on a desktop machine, but would be pretty inconvenient.


All you need to do is `up your page zoom' (bottom right in opera)
This is my 1920 by 1200, 24"monitor set at 150% zoom


But on the right I have another nearly 3-inch wide white column below the Create a Page button,

Either because you are not logged in or are using an adblocker extension > the whitespace is where you see your personal stuff and FB puts it's adds.
(good or bad, Advertising pays for the free web as we see it today)

EDIT: BTW, I just tried loading the page again, and it took longer than I had recalled: 5-10 seconds before some initial page layout changes occurred, about 35-40 seconds more before the left side column was populated with the blue/green/red human figures and avatars, and an additional 10-15 seconds before the forum content appeared in the center. So I'm still wondering if a slow-load issue is a factor for pvb48 ???

When you access the page, you are pulling in 2 sites, iframes, and fb generated adds amongst other things.
rich content does take a bit of time, it's server based delays, not content based.
When the first loads have occurred, It's lightning fast.

People that use facebook a lot (especially on a daily basis) will generate the most benefit as it lets you access my-opera with all your facebook stuff intact on the same page. You can chat, read and receive notifications, post. etc. in facebook, whilst using my-opera.(ie/ posting pics, editing blog, reading forums, etc.)
peppermint-3 (linux) * Celeron 2800 * 1.5 gig ddr-400 ram
* nvidia geforce 6200 - 512mb agp 8x * AOC 24" @ 1920by1200 * 3G mobile broadband * Opera 12 / Chromium 18
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams

1. November 2011, 15:54:28

pvb48

Posts: 20

Well obviously. Do you mean I need to be logged in before following the link? If I follow the link and log in it doesn't make any difference
to the usual Opera/Facebook blank screen.

I don't know what you mean by `blank screen'


By 'blank screen' I mean that apart from the FB Blue Header the screen is blank, with zero FB content. This seems quite a well reported problem on here!

Facebook and this facebook page both work in Opera.

So is there any well known reason (settings etc) why mine doesn't? Are there any common settings in Opera that need to be On/Off?
Any suggestions appreciated.

1. November 2011, 17:14:35

I hate to seem a complete dweeb. (What do nerds call people too feeble to be nerds?)
But what does Facebook do?

I can see something linking to Wall, Photos and Info.

Presumably those are similar to the inks we have on our blogs here?
Blog, Photos and About.

1. November 2011, 17:42:53

But what does Facebook do?
You should get some insight by looking through this blog:
http://my.opera.com/Facebook-Users/
peppermint-3 (linux) * Celeron 2800 * 1.5 gig ddr-400 ram
* nvidia geforce 6200 - 512mb agp 8x * AOC 24" @ 1920by1200 * 3G mobile broadband * Opera 12 / Chromium 18
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams

1. November 2011, 17:48:06

So is there any well known reason (settings etc) why mine doesn't? Are there any common settings in Opera that need to be On/Off?
Any suggestions appreciated.


Facebook works in opera.
There have been issues in the past as there are from time to time due to changes being made in facebook.
The only suggestion is that `it requires cookies' as you need to log in.
peppermint-3 (linux) * Celeron 2800 * 1.5 gig ddr-400 ram
* nvidia geforce 6200 - 512mb agp 8x * AOC 24" @ 1920by1200 * 3G mobile broadband * Opera 12 / Chromium 18
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams

3. November 2011, 11:03:29 (edited)

not offhand, the screenshot I posted is a straight desktop shot. (selected, hence a tiny bit missing around it)
This is a full desktop screenshot, In my blog (myopera). As stated the text in the middle is designed to be phone friendly.
As I have quite a few facebook pages, my-opera groups and these include forums.
The whole idea is to allow my facebook subscribers to access my myopera blogs and forums both on a mobile phone and pc.
At the same time it allows anyone using facebook to use myopera inside facebook.
peppermint-3 (linux) * Celeron 2800 * 1.5 gig ddr-400 ram
* nvidia geforce 6200 - 512mb agp 8x * AOC 24" @ 1920by1200 * 3G mobile broadband * Opera 12 / Chromium 18
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams

3. November 2011, 12:31:11

pvb48

Posts: 20

Originally posted by DuncanWilliams:

So is there any well known reason (settings etc) why mine doesn't? Are there any common settings in Opera that need to be On/Off?
Any suggestions appreciated.


Facebook works in opera.
There have been issues in the past as there are from time to time due to changes being made in facebook.
The only suggestion is that `it requires cookies' as you need to log in.



Well to answer my own question - in a fashion. I've removed Opera entirely, including all my bookmarks, settings and preferences and carried out a complete reinstall of Opera 10.63. I can now see Facebook in Opera 10.63.

Unfortunately that doesn't answer the other (and growing) list of problems. I will have to look at other threads for those.

3. November 2011, 14:14:00

@ pvb48

I would recommend you use the latest (or later) version of Opera for a number of reasons.
You may find that 10.63 is not compatible with certain sites whereas the latest version is always trying to keep up with any changes/problems with major sites.

@ gdveggie

To be honest, there hasn't been any queries or problems to date with `forum' so I don't think I will be making any changes, I could widen the i-frame (middle section) but this may introduce another scrollbar (horizontal) if I make it exact, because of slight variations in fonts on mac/linux/windows and a couple of other variables.
I might have a play around with it though. see what happens. I appreciate your feedback as it's always good to get another opinion.
If you are still online often I may contact you to try out a version with horizontal scrollbar at some stage.
peppermint-3 (linux) * Celeron 2800 * 1.5 gig ddr-400 ram
* nvidia geforce 6200 - 512mb agp 8x * AOC 24" @ 1920by1200 * 3G mobile broadband * Opera 12 / Chromium 18
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams

4. November 2011, 11:46:39

You bet! Life happened, and I had a long gap away from late May to October, but things are getting a little more squared away and I think I'll be fairly regular. So anytime a test view would be helpful in a different Opera version and/or OS, feel free to PM (or post in this thread if it's about this issue as it will pop up in my subscriptions).

Ok, well whatever happened I hope your good now, if at some stage I decide to change the format I will pm you re/ how it looks in your browser.
take it easy.
peppermint-3 (linux) * Celeron 2800 * 1.5 gig ddr-400 ram
* nvidia geforce 6200 - 512mb agp 8x * AOC 24" @ 1920by1200 * 3G mobile broadband * Opera 12 / Chromium 18
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams

7. November 2011, 04:12:07 (edited)

my facebook pages.
http://www.facebook.com/browse/pages_featuring_admin/?admin_id=100000964367235

my-opera in Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Opera
peppermint-3 (linux) * Celeron 2800 * 1.5 gig ddr-400 ram
* nvidia geforce 6200 - 512mb agp 8x * AOC 24" @ 1920by1200 * 3G mobile broadband * Opera 12 / Chromium 18
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams

13. December 2011, 05:54:49

new url for forum.
https://www.facebook.com/operaforum
peppermint-3 (linux) * Celeron 2800 * 1.5 gig ddr-400 ram
* nvidia geforce 6200 - 512mb agp 8x * AOC 24" @ 1920by1200 * 3G mobile broadband * Opera 12 / Chromium 18
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams

15. December 2011, 01:53:37

Facebook in My Opera.
http://my.opera.com/Facebook-Users
peppermint-3 (linux) * Celeron 2800 * 1.5 gig ddr-400 ram
* nvidia geforce 6200 - 512mb agp 8x * AOC 24" @ 1920by1200 * 3G mobile broadband * Opera 12 / Chromium 18
http://my.opera.com/DuncanWilliams

27. January 2012, 08:34:48

gdveggie

(Arcimboldo's "The Gardener" - ca 1590)

Posts: 1710

Originally posted by pvb48:

I'm using Opera 10.63 on Win XP3 and it just shows the usual Opera/Facebook blank screen, with the headers.


Originally posted by DuncanWilliams:

you need to log into facebook for it to work.


FWIW, I can see it with Opera 11.01 (WinXPsp3) without logging in (I don't have a Facebook account)...

...But both times when I visited (right after your first post, Duncan, and again just now), the human-like figures on the left appeared within 2-3 seconds, and then some avatars below... ...but there was a pause of maybe 10-15 seconds (guesstimating) before the forum content started to fill in (rather slowly) in the middle. So the first time I visited, I initially thought there was nothing there. ...So if you wait a while, pvb48, does any content show up eventually?

BTW Duncan, on my 1440x900 monitor the spacing seems like it probably isn't what you intend. I have about 2.5 inches white space on each side (similar to the Opera forums), and the figures/avatars on the left are in a column about 2 inches wide. But on the right I have another nearly 3-inch wide white column below the Create a Page button, so the forum scroll bar is about 5 inches from the right side of my screen. The result is that the forum content with margins of about 1 inch per side is squeezed into a space about 5 inches wide on a screen about 16 inches wide, so the actual content is only about 3 inches wide.

(Sort of my very own mobile view on my wide-screen monitor. p)

I don't know anything about what sort of formatting controls/options you have, but let me know if the above isn't clear enough and you'd like a screen shot.

27. January 2012, 08:34:48

gdveggie

(Arcimboldo's "The Gardener" - ca 1590)

Posts: 1710

Originally posted by DuncanWilliams:

Do post some screenshots and I will look into it.


Sure, here's a screenshot with Opera 11.01 (WinXPsp3) at full screen on my 1440x900 monitor (open in a separate window to see full size):



Other than the skin (which AFAIK has no effect) I think everything is standard/default setup (no zoom, font, theme changes; nor any UserJS or User CSS that would affect it AFAIK).

Since it is designed it to run inside Facebook, maybe it would look different if I were logged in ??? (but I don't have a Facebook account to check that)

Or maybe it's the mobile phone friendly design ???

As is, it could be used on a desktop machine, but would be pretty inconvenient.

(But keep in mind, I'm not trying to do so. I was just providing some feedback for you and pvb48 smile)

EDIT: BTW, I just tried loading the page again, and it took longer than I had recalled: 5-10 seconds before some initial page layout changes occurred, about 35-40 seconds more before the left side column was populated with the blue/green/red human figures and avatars, and an additional 10-15 seconds before the forum content appeared in the center. So I'm still wondering if a slow-load issue is a factor for pvb48 ???

27. January 2012, 08:34:48

gdveggie

(Arcimboldo's "The Gardener" - ca 1590)

Posts: 1710

Hey, Duncan!

...Yeah, it looks like if I go to 120% on my 1440x900 monitor I'm seeing Facebook column formatting proportions similar to what you see at 150% on your 1920x1200 monitor (150% makes the page wider than my monitor).

...And I am using some ad-blocking, but when I check what's being blocked on the page, there doesn't appear to be anything being blocked. However, the nearly 3-inch wide white column (below the Create a Page button) now has one entry in it when I visit the page again (for a "Similar Facebook Page"), and I can see in your screenshot how that column would be populated by my personal stuff if I were to sign up for an account.

At any rate, I was just trying to help make sure your new venture was appearing as intended, and it looks like it is. smile (Just my lack of Facebook familiarity led me to think otherwise.)

However, I still notice one interesting difference that I can't figure out: Your Opera forum column appears to have almost no side margins (and is maybe even cropped a bit on the right side), and no vertical scrollbar on the right. The effect is that the Opera forum doesn't look nearly as narrow in proportion to the rest of the page in your screenshot as it does in mine. Any ideas about what might be different in our settings to let the Opera forum spread out more in your setup?

27. January 2012, 08:34:48

gdveggie

(Arcimboldo's "The Gardener" - ca 1590)

Posts: 1710

Yeah, now I notice in your most recent screenshot that the vertical scrollbar is visible (the scrollbar above the name, Irene Javier, is one I mean), whereas it isn't visible in the previous screenshot. And the cropping I was referring to in your first screenshot is at the right end of the red Opera "Forum Topic | Replies" bar which appears to be "cropped" slightly by the Facebook personal column that was blank in my screenshot (as if the Opera frame isn't quite fitting into the center column, cropping the right side, including the scrollbar).

In both of your screenshots, however, the Opera content is clearly filling up more of the width of that center column without (unneeded) white margins on either side like in mine. ...Puzzling... Almost as if I have Fit-to-Width enabled, forcing the Opera forum margins to appear in the frame. (But enabling/disabling Fit-to-Width doesn't really make any difference in how mine appears.)

At any rate, the way it appears in yours makes it more usable than the narrow view in mine.

No need to spend any more time trying to figure it out on my account, though (unless you're just curious like I am, or have other users who indicate a similar narrowness on their setup). I'm not trying to "fix" it as much as I'm just curious why the difference exists (and don't plan to be using Facebook, anyway).

(Maybe it's your Linux and/or Opera 11.52 rendering differently than my WinXPsp3 and/or Opera 11.01 ???)

27. January 2012, 08:34:48

gdveggie

(Arcimboldo's "The Gardener" - ca 1590)

Posts: 1710

Originally posted by DuncanWilliams:

I appreciate your feedback as it's always good to get another opinion.


You're welcome, although I didn't mean any of it to be an opinion. Just an observation in support of your new venture when I initially thought it might not be working as you intended (but I can see now that it probably is). And then my ongoing puzzlement over the different "spread" you and I get in the i-frame.

Originally posted by DuncanWilliams:

If you are still online often I may contact you to try out a version with horizontal scrollbar at some stage.


up You bet! Life happened, and I had a long gap away from late May to October, but things are getting a little more squared away and I think I'll be fairly regular. So anytime a test view would be helpful in a different Opera version and/or OS, feel free to PM (or post in this thread if it's about this issue as it will pop up in my subscriptions).

27. January 2012, 08:34:48

gdveggie

(Arcimboldo's "The Gardener" - ca 1590)

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