Adobe Flash Player 11 update causes a lot of crashes! Work-arounds.

The most recent Flash update (version 11) introduced a lot of instability to all versions of Opera on Mac.

Some suggested work-arounds:

• Disable the Flash plug-in in Opera from opera:plugins
• Delete the ~/Library/Preferences/Macromedia/ directory
• Leave two instances of Opera that both uses Flash running at the same time
• Downgrade to an older version of Flash

We’re working on the issue.

I have sent the crash reports in, hope they help

using Opera next seems to be a lot more stable for me... on just Opera Twitter was crashing it, whereas Opera Next has been running smooth this morning with no crashes

I think that opera also doesn't work because of that on my mac. I wasn't able to open it since this upgrade. Now I made a time machine backup an deleted opera and reinstalled it. But nothing helped. I still can't open opera. Any suggestions?

PS: Where can I get Opera Next? Might that help?

Originally posted by jmblanco:

Where can I get Opera Next?

http://snapshot.opera.com/mac/latest

Originally posted by daniel:

The most recent Flash update (version 11) introduced a lot of instability to all versions of Opera on Mac.

Some suggested work-arounds:

• Disable the Flash plug-in in Opera from opera:plugins
• Delete the ~/Library/Preferences/Macromedia/ directory
• Leave two instances of Opera that both uses Flash running at the same time
• Downgrade to an older version of Flash

We’re working on the issue.

Thanks for pointing me towards flash as an Opera crash problem. It seems I was running 32bit flash on a 64bit OS. Bad idea.

64 bit plugin seems to work ok with 32bit Opera. Isn't there 64 bit Opera?

Originally posted by hucker:

Isn't there 64 bit Opera?

Not yet - Opera 64-bit is for Linux/FreeBSD only.

Originally posted by hucker:

It seems I was running 32bit flash on a 64bit OS. Bad idea.

Oops. It seems running 64 bit flash doesn't work on 64bit Vista (well only with 10% of pages). Their 64bit version is only for Seven (which I'm getting anyway).

Why is everyone so slow to develop for 64 bit? Is it a lot of hassle? Surely loads of people have been using 64bit windows for ages - I mean you can't get over 4GB memory with the old 32bit antiques.

Originally posted by hucker:

Surely loads of people have been using 64bit windows for ages - I mean you can't get over 4GB memory with the old 32bit antiques.

4 GB is really enough, though 64-bit Opera for Mac is not the discussion here so before moderators mark both of our off-topic comments, let's delete them on our own.

4 GB is WHAT? Lightweight. I've just upgraded from 12GB to 24GB. Even if you aren't using it, it's a disk cache.

And conversations can drift slightly. We're still talking about computers.

Originally posted by hucker:

4 GB is WHAT? Lightweight. I've just upgraded from 12GB to 24GB. Even if you aren't using it, it's a disk cache.

That is only if you have a modern mother board that can handle that , the average person has between 4 to 8 gb of ram (for recent computers) I have 3gb max

For me I figured out it was Flash player 11 when I noticed the Opera on mac crashing when I tried to load flash player content

Originally posted by Chas4:

That is only if you have a modern mother board that can handle that , the average person has between 4 to 8 gb of ram (for recent computers) I have 3gb max

My motherboard is two years old. Got it second hand. And thje RAM.

Originally posted by Chas4:

For me I figured out it was Flash player 11 when I noticed the Opera on mac crashing when I tried to load flash player content

Changed my windows machine from Vista to Seven (which has a flash player in 64 bit), so this might help me....

Originally posted by Chas4:

the average person has between 4 to 8 gb of ram (for recent computers) I have 3gb max

Yep. But that's the average for a Windows computer, I don't have Mac but I have commonly heard that a Mac has 8 GB average RAM.

That is on newer Macs

I wonder if Flash player 11 is trying to do 64 bit only and not load 32 bit for 32 bit browsers

Mr. Daniel, does Opera 11.60 build 1145 contain the fix for this issue - "DSK-348990 Crash when loading Flash 11 on Mac" ???

I just wanted to confirm.

PS. Why does the Opera 11.60 build 1145 blog post announcement 'Known issues' section say - "Please refer to earlier 11.60 posts", when half of the Known issues of previous build were corrected in this build.

Opera 11.60 build 1145 and Flash 11 seem to be friends so far.

Originally posted by Pimz:

Opera 11.60 build 1145 and Flash 11 seem to be friends so far.

Yep ! this version seems to fix all issues with flash 11.

Also I'm happy to seen that this Opera 11.60 build 1145 doesn't freeze my system and is more stable than 11.5X branch. Finally ! Thanks to the dev team.

Originally posted by alharawi:

Also I'm happy to seen that this Opera 11.60 build 1145 doesn't freeze my system and is more stable than 11.5X branch. Finally ! Thanks to the dev team.

Finally 11.5x is such a pain with so many freezes...

Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

Originally posted by Chas4:

the average person has between 4 to 8 gb of ram (for recent computers) I have 3gb max

Yep. But that's the average for a Windows computer, I don't have Mac but I have commonly heard that a Mac has 8 GB average RAM.

The problem with too much memory is that the CPU was not designed for this and the hardware is impossible to use. You do not use huge amounts of memory as "RAM" - but most is used as disk swap area, managed by applications such as Opera, that allocate swap space.If regular page-swap was applied, the OS will spend more time managing the memory than getting the job done. I have seen computers go slower after more memory has been added.

Please, it may be another issue but:
The system hangs, Opera stalls - shows a ring as cursor, Skype goes OFFLINE (white) and "Switch Task" does not work.
Press the Power button briefly, and it take 10 - 20 seconds to respond, and CANCEL does not get it out of the freeze.

I blame this (in another post) on a bug in the hfs+ file system that may try to flush its journal without having disk pages to write to. This is caused by MacOS using the file system for swapping - not as Linux that use a dedicated partition without a file system. This is reported as a bug in the Ubuntu discussions of HFS.

If you hold disk pages in memory, make an option that eleminates the need to keep a "cache" copy on the disk (if the file system causes the hang) With a Internet connection above 10Mbps, it may be faster to reload from site than to find it on a local disk at least when this cache get big. And allow us to determine the minimum file size to keep on disk cache. Flash pages are larger and the probability of a hang happening here is bigger should the hang be in the file system. Make a tiny file system in the memory for files over-ride the HFS (and whatever other OS) file system. Then copy these to the disk by another process and avoid these freezes. No cached files: no disk writer...

Has it been tested with Flash 11.1.x the update from this past week for 10.60?

Sorry guys, I don't want to be a party blooper, but this is just terrible user experience.

Opera Mac users have been struggling with unusable Flash (Youtube, FB games, whatever — it's still very much around) for two weeks now, with no word when (or even if, can't read Opera News blog, it crashes) a fix is coming. Doing work-arounds was acceptable in 2006, but not any more in 2011 — as a casual end user (and not from the 'enthusiast' segment) I would naturally expect a lot quicker response from such a mature and well established company.

Where is the problem? Is the issue so extensive? Doesn't the team care? Or is the development cycle so set-in-stone, so inflexible that it doesn't allow for quick fixes to be implemented?

Again, I love Opera and only wish it the best. But this kind of delay in deploying a fix to a rather game-breaking issue makes me nervous — will the wait be so long next time as well? And I really feel sorry for all those who got the browser from the App Store, they won't see a fix for…

Opera 12.00 build 1155 also contains this fix. So people happy with Opera Next can now enjoy a better experience with Flash-based websites on their Mac.

Still crashes for me, OS X 10.5.8. Just reinstalled Flash like an hour ago, BECAUSE the old one was crashing Opera all the time. Installed Opera 11.6 BECAUSE Opera kept crashing on YouTube all the time. Backed up my data, deleted everything Opera-related on my machine, did a fresh install, copied my data back, because Opera was crashing even faster on YouTube. I have plug ins on demand, whenever I click that to start a YT video, Opera crashes INSTANTLY.
Crash logs sent to Opera (may have angry language in it, can you blame me?), it doesn't trigger OS X's crash logger, so I don't have any logs to show anymore.

Originally posted by nftaDaedalus:

it doesn't trigger OS X's crash logger, so I don't have any logs to show anymore.

Did you check in your "/Library/Logs" and "~/Library/Logs" to hang and crashes reports. Sometime you have reports within these folders, even without a crash reports dialogue box "popping up". You can send it to Opera desktop team has attachments.

Yeah, I checked. No Opera Crash logs in there, but thanks for the advice.

Originally posted by nftaDaedalus:

Still crashes for me, OS X 10.5.8.

Adobe Flash Player 11 requires OS X 10.6+, so your problem is presumably unrelated to the topic of this thread. (If it's any consolation, I'm experiencing it too.)

But Flash works fine in other browsers and it only crashes Opera.

I have Flash Player 10,3,183,11 installed.

Opera 11.60 works with the current 11 version of flash player

Sooo, Flash 11 doesn't work on 10.5.8, Opera 11.60 doesn't use Flash 10. Why does Opera 11.60 run on 10.5? If none of the plugins it uses can run on 10.5, there's no need at all for the browser to run at all.

However, I am still curious why other browsers work fine, only Opera has problems with plugins.

And btw, Opera already had issues with Flash in previous versions. I actually upgraded, because the Flash problem had become much worse and Opera would crash several times a day, in the end even on starting Flash.

Originally posted by nftaDaedalus:

Sooo, Flash 11 doesn't work on 10.5.8, Opera 11.60 doesn't use Flash 10. Why does Opera 11.60 run on 10.5? If none of the plugins it uses can run on 10.5, there's no need at all for the browser to run at all.

You can use a browser without any plugin... Ok it would be a poor experience but it is usable.

Originally posted by nftaDaedalus:

However, I am still curious why other browsers work fine, only Opera has problems with plugins.

Some browser included there own version of flash, like Chrome/Chromium for exemple.

try also: http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/64-bit-opera-and-out-of-process-plug-ins/

Actually this problem occurs due to certain errors related to Flash plugin in your system. The corruption in sound drivers and the incorrect registry settings in your Windows also result in Shockwave plugin crash.
The guidelines given here will help you to fix the problem at ease.

* Uninstall the Flash player and active-x plugin. Afterwards reinstall it.
* Try to change the version of the Adobe Shockwave as sometimes the programs do not function well due to various internal conflicts. Get the most recent version.
* Update your system drivers
* Especially update the sound drivers.

The above guidelines allow you to take measures to find an easy solution to the problem.
I also got some help from this article to fix flash player crash
Hope it fix your problem.

Originally posted by robertwilliams5:

in your Windows

Well... this is Opera for Mac support forums... so no active-x and drivers are update directly by apple (not need to go to the product maker to downloads the drivers).

It's seems that this bug is fix with Opera 11.61 release.