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31. October 2011, 23:19:21

ideiv

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Master Password doesn't show up

Hi everyone, I would like to understand the Opera's password managing:

In Firefox I can set a master password to protect all my saved passwords.
If I save my mail password, for example, closing Firefox (not logging off by my mail) and then opening it again, I click on my mail site saved as bookmarks and a window pops up asking me to enter the master password to get into my mail. Otherwise I can't, spaces remain blank.

In Opera I set my master password; I saved my mail password; but when I close Opera (not logging off by my mail) and then I open it again, If I click on my mail site saved as bookmarks, Opera leads me straight into it without asking me any password.

Is it correct? Shouldn't Opera ask me for my password before to let me in?

(first: I'm sorry for my English; second: I know that to have better security I should use an encrypted drive, etc... I just need to know this to choose between Firefox and Opera)

1. November 2011, 01:45:07 (edited)

virtualsky

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You can set your master password under the Security options in Opera's Preferences screen (see the screenshot below).

You can choose how frequently you're asked for your master password, as well as using it protect your other site passwords.

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1. November 2011, 01:44:51

ideiv

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I did, but I would like to know if is regular that the password doesn't show at the opening of Opera.
I tried all options.
The fact is: If I close the browser and someone open it, he should know the password to enter with Firefox.
With Opera, instead, my account stay logged in, without asking a password at the opening.

Am I missing something or it's just Opera working this way?

1. November 2011, 02:02:10 (edited)

virtualsky

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Interesting. I unchecked the "protect saved passwords" option and I did not get a prompt to enter my master password. However, when I checked it again, I got a prompt to enter the master password when I started Opera up again. Do you happen to have the "protect saved passwords" checked off?

You would think that if you state the master password is required once per session it would ask once per session... and not have to check off the protect passwords option. Maybe something happened in the last upgrade that broke it.
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1. November 2011, 09:27:43

ideiv

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The funny thing is that when Opera asks me for password, if I select cancel, it let me go in, anyway, logged in.
Anyway, it seems to me that Opera is not a complete browser yet, I'll wait and I'll use just for streaming.

1. November 2011, 12:12:12

virtualsky

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Hmmm. Maybe someone from Opera can explain/investigate the issue for us.
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1. November 2011, 16:43:25

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The master password is used to protect passwords (if the option is enabled). If you don't enter the master-password you have no access to the saved password.
However a lot of sites identify you using cookies and keep you logged in. Cookies are not protected by the master-pw. I guess this is what's confusing you. Try this:
1. enable the master-pw for passwords
2. log out of whatever service you're using for testing
3. restart opera
you should not be logged in and trying to use Wand to login will ask for your master-pw

1. November 2011, 20:00:58 (edited)

virtualsky

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Thank you, larskl.

This is how I was using the master password feature (to protect my stored passwords), but wasn't sure if it is what Davide was expecting it to do. I may be wrong, but to me is seemed like Davide is looking for a way to lock down his Opera profile altogether.
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1. November 2011, 18:17:41

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Originally posted by virtualsky:

I may be wrong, but to me is seemed like Davide is looking for a way to lock down his Opera profile altogether.


That's what TrueCrypt is there for.

1. November 2011, 22:43:36

ideiv

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Wait, since Firefox doesn't allow to log in if you don't insert the correct password I was trying to understand if Opera do the same. It's a comfort thing closing the browser not worrying about loggin off, because reopening it, if you don't insert the right password, there's no access to your data.

I didn't wanted to use TryeCrypt because I don't need an entirely virtual drive encrypted. So, in the meanwhile, I downloaded Game protector to set a password on Opera but it's not compatible; with Firefox it works.

Anyway, now I know that Opera can't do that, well i will stay on firefox for now. Thanks for your time and sorry for my English.


1. November 2011, 22:56:50

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Originally posted by ideiv:

because reopening it, if you don't insert the right password, there's no access to your data.


Your data is not protected at all. Even without the password one can just access the data files on the disk.
The only way to protect your data is encryption.

Originally posted by ideiv:

I didn't wanted to use TryeCrypt because I don't need an entirely virtual drive encrypted.


TrueCrypt doesn't just offer disk-encryption but can also create file containers.

2. November 2011, 10:47:10

Originally posted by larskl:

Even without the password one can just access the data files on the disk.


Yup. To get Firefox Bookmarks and History for example, grab places.sqlite from your Firefox Profile folder and there would be nothing asking for a password. Why not encrypt Opera's profile folder using Windows' built-in NTFS encryption. Read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308989 for how to use NTFS encryption for Windows XP, though it should work for Windows Vista and 7 too.

I have not used NTFS encryption myself, so if something wrong happens just decrypt the Opera profile folder by reversing Step 4 in that Microsoft Knowledge Base article.
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