[11.60b 1134] New GMail extremely slow

i just installed the new 11.60 beta....and not sure if it is just me, but GMail is extremely laggy. especially when scrolling through messages...

anyone else notice this?

and with last Opera 12 gmail (old and new) scrolling slow.
Problems with css, example: overflow-x: hidden;
Opera dont like this

it's a shame...i've been using opera 11.60 a bit more over the past day. so far everything is working great, but GMail still brings opera to its knees i wonder if there will be any chance it's fixed before it goes final

Originally posted by choicefresh:

I can reproduce this problem in 11.60 beta. In the 12.00 alpha, the problem seems to be fixed.

thanks for the heads up...i guess i can live with it for now until 12.00 comes out

Cant confirm Opera 11.60 build 1144 Beta RC , windows8 32bit

Originally posted by techlawsam:

Cant confirm Opera 11.60 build 1144 Beta RC , windows8 32bit

strange...i wonder if it's a 64 bit problem. i'm using windows 7 64 bit

to try it, perform a search, or access a label, that brings back more than one page of results. then attempt to scroll down using the right scroll bar or using a mouse wheel...it will lag like crazy

it never did this with the old version of gmail...and i might have been dreaming, but i didn't realize this when using 11.52...only noticed when i tried out the 11.60 beta

Originally posted by GeneValgene:

strange...i wonder if it's a 64 bit problem. i'm using windows 7 64 bit

to try it, perform a search, or access a label, that brings back more than one page of results. then attempt to scroll down using the right scroll bar or using a mouse wheel...it will lag like crazy

it never did this with the old version of gmail...and i might have been dreaming, but i didn't realize this when using 11.52...only noticed when i tried out the 11.60 beta

nope I have never had this issue at all even on my windows 7 64-bit machine, I search through my gmail mesages all the time I notice no lag, no high cpu usage.

Have you reported this via bug report wizard?

Originally posted by choicefresh:

Originally posted by techlawsam:

Cant confirm Opera 11.60 build 1144 Beta RC , windows8 32bit

Are you using the new GMail?

of course, Im even using the latest opera 11.60 beta released yesterday on windows 8, no lag , no scroll lag. Have you tried maybe clearing all private data in opera , maybe checking Internet connection?

some good news after trying out the new 11.60b 1150 build on the new gmail. so overall the lag is much, much improved!

however, i'm having a weird problem now...basically whenever i compose an email, it always defaults the 'small' size font. i have to manually change it to 'normal' size each time. anyone else having this issue?

Originally posted by GeneValgene:

some good news after trying out the new 11.60b 1150 build on the new gmail. so overall the lag is much, much improved!

however, i'm having a weird problem now...basically whenever i compose an email, it always defaults the 'small' size font. i have to manually change it to 'normal' size each time. anyone else having this issue?

I can confirm the small font issue, it goes back to the previous build, if I recall correctly. It's also present in Opera Next (12.00).

At least on my system, 11.60b 1150 is faster than Chrome on Gmail, which I'm sure Google is working to break any minute now (Gmail in 12.00 is completely broken again for me in standard mode)...

Originally posted by GeneValgene:

however, i'm having a weird problem now...basically whenever i compose an email, it always defaults the 'small' size font. i have to manually change it to 'normal' size each time. anyone else having this issue?

I don't think its Opera's issue but probably the default setting for font in Gmail . I have to change the font size as well but it has nothing to do with the browser.

Originally posted by NedTheNanite:

I can confirm the small font issue, it goes back to the previous build, if I recall correctly. It's also present in Opera Next (12.00).

At least on my system, 11.60b 1150 is faster than Chrome on Gmail, which I'm sure Google is working to break any minute now (Gmail in 12.00 is completely broken again for me in standard mode)...

yea, great work opera team! definite performance boost from last build. let's hope google doesn't screw opera again

Originally posted by techlawsam:

Originally posted by GeneValgene:

however, i'm having a weird problem now...basically whenever i compose an email, it always defaults the 'small' size font. i have to manually change it to 'normal' size each time. anyone else having this issue?

I don't think its Opera's issue but probably the default setting for font in Gmail . I have to change the font size as well but it has nothing to do with the browser.

i'm pretty sure it's opera specific. doesn't happen in any of my other browsers, using the same gmail account? if there is a default setting i can't seem to find it in my gmail settings...i might be missing something though...

Originally posted by GeneValgene:

yea, great work opera team! definite performance boost from last build. let's hope google doesn't screw opera again

Of course I have may spoken too soon — Gmail today is now slower than it has ever been. I have my inbox set up in the Priority Mail style where important mail appears at top and there's up to two configurable sections between, then everything else. I finally added the second optional section to segregate out some mail from a message board and now it's really slow. So the speed definitely seems to be related to how the inbox is set up. The more complicated it is, the slow it's gonna be.

Originally posted by techlawsam:

i'm pretty sure it's opera specific. doesn't happen in any of my other browsers, using the same gmail account? if there is a default setting i can't seem to find it in my gmail settings...i might be missing something though...

It's definitely Opera-specific but only for 11.60b and 12.00. There is no setting I can find to permanently change font size/type for replies, only the per-message options.

@GeneValgene @NedTheNanite I will check again on this issue and report back again....

Something happened yesterday morning and Gmail wouldn't load at all in Wahoo without disabling labs completely. It didn't seem to be any faster for me that way vs. with all the labs features. It appears to be back to normal now, and I have no idea why it quit working for that one session.

I checked just now and "background send" was already disabled for me. I think there's just so much javascript in the new mail setup that my old computer can't handle it. As I noted before, it's actually as slow or slower in Chrome, and if Gmail should work its best anywhere, it's there. Are you guys on old computers, too?

I'm on a second generation core i5 and I see the slow scrolling in the inbox, so no it's not an old computer thing.

just installed build 1159 of 11.60...i can confirm that the defaulting to small font continues to be an issue in opera

doh...is it just me or did gmail turn slow again

it was working fast before...

I am confirming in Opera 11.60 build 1163 that Opera has become Slow, Loaded in latest Chrome Stable. Win7 (On a iMac, Core i3 2.4GHz, 4GB Ram)

@GeneValgene try the new build to see if you experience Gmail being slow , I think its a bug because Beta and Next Builds are not treated nicely on Google Calendar as well

Originally posted by techlawsam:

it was working fast before...

Agreed. The frustrating thing is I can't tell if it's the Opera side slowing down or if Google is sending code changes that alter the speed. The "new look" is still a work in progress as far as I know, so they may be tweaking features.

It seems like it speeds up with each new Next or 11.60 build that comes down, which makes me look back at Opera. But I can clear the cache and application data and all that jazz and it doesn't seem to affect the speed of Gmail at all.

So confusing. The small font problem is a PITA too.

I think its code personally I load up Gmail in Chrome latest stable(what version is it at now? ) and firefox. Gmail loads super fast but with any Opera Snapshot/Build/Next its slow as molasses

Originally posted by techlawsam:

I am confirming in Opera 11.60 build 1163 that Opera has become Slow, Loaded in latest Chrome Stable. Win7 (On a iMac, Core i3 2.4GHz, 4GB Ram)

@GeneValgene try the new build to see if you experience Gmail being slow , I think its a bug because Beta and Next Builds are not treated nicely on Google Calendar as well

yea...i'm using 1163 now. not as slow as when i originally posted this thread, but definitely slower than when i was testing on 11/12 with the older build. right now 1163 is slower than other browsers, but still usable.

not sure what's going on...i figure something fishy happening on google's side

also, in 1163 the small font issue on composing emails is still an issue

masking as Firefox seems mighty fast, is google serving the wrong code

Originally posted by ytsmabeer:

masking as Firefox seems mighty fast, is google serving the wrong code

Google is sending different code, certainly. There seems to be a consensus on that. Maybe if we had a "Mask as Chrome 15" option things would get really interesting?

I think it's a problem with Opera rendering "xx-small" or "x-small" font sizes. For me on an internal intranet site, xx-small and x-small were showing normally (or at least the same as IE7,8 and FF6) but since 12 Next, I've noticed it doesn't render this font size type correctly. It could be just me - can any one else confirm?

Originally posted by SirJeff:

I think it's a problem with Opera rendering "xx-small" or "x-small" font sizes. For me on an internal intranet site, xx-small and x-small were showing normally (or at least the same as IE7,8 and FF6) but since 12 Next, I've noticed it doesn't render this font size type correctly. It could be just me - can any one else confirm?

this was posted by olak in the opera desktop team blog:

It is actually a result of a bug fix in Opera. The bug (CORE-9793) was that font-size: small would increase font-size compared to default of some elements. To counter this, GMail (and other sites, like Amazon) set the font-size to x-small specifically for Opera. After the fix, Opera too applies x-small like instructed and you get tiny fonts. So it is Opera's fault for having the bug in the first place, but it has to be "fixed" by the sites. Our OtW-team has notified them.

also, did anyone else notice that gmail performance magically got much faster?

I'm seeing the same performance as before.

Yeah, same performance here, too.

I've got an Athlon XP single core processor and have noticed that when Gmail is lagging, the CPU is usually 95-100% the whole time Gmail is loaded, including during idle times.

Originally posted by NedTheNanite:

Yeah, same performance here, too.

I've got an Athlon XP single core processor and have noticed that when Gmail is lagging, the CPU is usually 95-100% the whole time Gmail is loaded, including during idle times.

i dont' know...i don't think i'm dreaming. installed 11.60 final, and gmail seems lightning fast??

weird!!

Originally posted by GeneValgene:

i dont' know...i don't think i'm dreaming. installed 11.60 final, and gmail seems lightning fast??weird!!

I installed 11.60 final as well and it seems about the same, but no instances of 100% CPU usage… yet.

Originally posted by NedTheNanite:

Originally posted by GeneValgene:

i dont' know...i don't think i'm dreaming. installed 11.60 final, and gmail seems lightning fast??weird!!

I installed 11.60 final as well and it seems about the same, but no instances of 100% CPU usage… yet.

yep, hovering over messages wastes a lot of cpu, 10-16% normal and peaks when moving mouse around just to lag (at 33% as limited by win on 3-core system), and only to update some bullets that tell me which message I am hovering.

BTW is totally usable, only a little laggy while marking items as selected (not as on previous beta versions), but the CPU usage should be still considered a problem.

edit: AND totally laggy while staring messages D:

Originally posted by GeneValgene:

strange...i wonder if it's a 64 bit problem. i'm using windows 7 64 bit

I am facing a similar problem on this page, but only on a Vista 64 bit machine; same Opera version on a Vista 32 bit works ok.

11.60 final, happened the same with last few 11.60 betas (I only entered that page over the last 2-3 weeks). Reinstalled Opera (for other reasons) with complete manual deletion of the remaining folders in program and user roaming and local directories, but there were no difference.

Cristi

The new gmail is slow on opera-next (12.00 alpha Build 1191 Linux i686, 3.1.0-1-686-pae on Debian testing). Just hovering the mouse pointer over the opera window slows down the motion of the mouse pointer. In addition, just leaving opera-next open with a single tab of gmail uses 5% of CPU. What is it "doing"?

By the way, this forum adds another 5--10% of CPU use and the scrolling is very sluggish on this page.