How to revert to 11.52?

Hi,
I am using Opera Mail and updated to 11.60 but did not alike a few "features"

I Set a System Restore point and then uninstalled 11.60 but kept the User Data.

I installed 11.52 again and it says I cannot use the later version of Mail files.

I have since done System Restore and 11.60 is back along with all my Mail.

How can I go back to 11.52 until 11.60 is a bit better sorted out?

Thanks

You cannot downgrade your mail files. Unless you have a backup of your mail files from 11.52 or before, the only way you will be able to downgrade to 11.52 is to delete all your mail files.

check the desktop team blog. You'll find there informations on how to setup the 11.60 mail client to look like before

Thanks, but can you be a little more specific? I just searched the Desktop Blogs and the comments they make there, I can't find the "Wrench" they talk of.

Also when I try to customize the Mail I can't drag the "All Accounts" off the top Mail bar. With the Customize > Mail dialog open, I drag the "All Accounts" drop down and it shows circle with a bar indicating it is not allowed.

The wrench button is located on the right end of the mail toolbar in the screenshot you see at http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/11/07/mail-goes-two-lined-and-grouped

But maybe you can instead explain what you don't like about the mail changes - in the long term, you'll want to upgrade your Opera installation anyway, so better tell us what you'd like to see improved.

I've no idea what you mean with the ''all accounts off the top Mail bar".

Thanks for the reply.

The "Yesterday" "Last Week" etc is just a waste of space for me. I don't need to know what emails I received for Tuesday. I like the look of it but I want to turn it off and use the screen space for emails. If I can't disable those silly waste of space, the I will see if I can find a way to go back to 11.52 I will. Even if it means abandoning all my current emails that have been converted to 11.60 format and no longer readable by 11.52.

What I really loved about Opera was that it could be made to look the way I want it. Seems like we are at the end of an era.

Here's my screen...
http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee363/MyPics4Me/OPERA2.jpg

It shows 3 wasted lines that could be being used for email headings. On one other account there were about five or six wasted light-blue lines.

There is NO little wrench on my Mail main bar.

I had dragged the "All Accounts" drop down to the mail bar in 11.52, but now that I find I don't use it, I wanted to drag it off. Using "Customize" it will not let me. Even though the "Mail" page in "Customize" shows the "All Accounts" drop down as available to drag.

>> in the long term, you'll want to upgrade your Opera installation anyway,

please do not be so sure about that.

You show only a partial screenshot. Did you look at the one I linked to?

To remove toolbar items: right-click > Customize > Remove from toolbar. In Opera that's the only way to remove items from toolbars when customizing. 'Customize > Reset toolbar to defaults' will of course also do what it says.

Or: go to 'Menu > Preferences > Advanced > Toolbars', and pick 'Opera Standard' as toolbar. That will return all the standard settings to the toolbars.

Originally posted by Rijk:

You show only a partial screenshot. Did you look at the one I linked to?

The partial shows all of the issues I have. The "All Accounts" and the wasted blue bars. I am not about to show my full screen with 17 of the 27 email addresses displayed.

Yes, I did look at the one you listed, but I don't want that layout and it has even more wasted space. I just want to see mail headers and mail contents.

I use a netbook for mail and the screen seems even shorter than normal and I am getting 5 email headings and about 8-lines of text in the body. That's all I can see vertically. It sucks.

I don't want to see all your mail addresses, just wondering what you did to your toolbars that that button with the wrench icon has become unfindable. It should be on the same toolbar as the reply buttons, and it would help you a lot if you could find it...

Originally posted by dogbrake2:

I am not about to show my full screen with 17 of the 27 email addresses displayed.

You don't need to - just take the screenshot and edit it in Microsoft Paint - erase the e-mail addresses using Eraser Tool.

Originally posted by Rijk:

just wondering what you did to your toolbars that that button with the wrench icon has become unfindable.

Thanks for the reply, the "wrench" was there before the install of 11.60 over 11.52, I have no idea what happened to it, it was not something I did. I have taken your advice and Reset them all. I then went through and removed the ones I no longer want, such as "Reply to all" etc. I now have the Wrench and am a happier camper with the display.

Here's some observations of 11.60
When I check "Override default sorting" and select "Sort by Sent date" then click "Group by Date" and close that menu, if I open it again, it has reverted to "Grouped by pinned status" but the blue bars are gone. Seems like it is "Grouped by pinned status" or nothing.
When I first load Opera-Mail and Crtl-K, all of the email bars show the little "busy" whirly, but when it has done, the whirlys all remain visible on the bars. I have to pass the cursor over each of the bars to make them go away.

Originally posted by dogbrake2:

When I check "Override default sorting" and select "Sort by Sent date" then click "Group by Date" and close that menu, if I open it again, it has reverted to "Grouped by pinned status" but the blue bars are gone. Seems like it is "Grouped by pinned status" or nothing. When I first load Opera-Mail and Crtl-K, all of the email bars show the little "busy" whirly, but when it has done, the whirlys all remain visible on the bars. I have to pass the cursor over each of the bars to make them go away.

The first issue is a known bug - note that the grouping isn't actually 'by pinned state'. The second issue must also be a bug, but I'm not sure yet how to reproduce it.

OK, I will see if I can help shed some light on the Ctrl-K.
The little whirlys are stationary after the Ctr-K has finished checking all mail accounts.
Two Email accounts which are POP Access to GMail always clear the little whirly.
One of those two will always clear, sometimes both will clear. I can do a Ctrl-K twice and it may yield a different result, but always at least one clears.
I have seven other conventional Mail.website.com servers all pointing to the same mail server but with different account names. All of them show the whirly.
The whirlys only ever clear on the POP access to GMail and never to the conventional POP accounts.

If I move another program to the top-Z position all of the whirlys go away. Is it a "Hide" thing on completion of the whirly stopping rotating.
When I move that other program to the top, even if I can still see part of the underlying Opera, the whirlys go away even though they are not covered by the top program. Maybe just call a "Refresh" or "Update" for the Main Form when the list of accounts has been processed. Brute force I know, but it might do the trick.

OK, it gets weirder.
If I close up the Labels all of them leave the stationary whirly.
http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee363/MyPics4Me/OPERA4.jpg

If I open up the Labels display I go back to the random two clearing for those GMail accounts.
http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee363/MyPics4Me/OPERA3.jpg

All accounts have the same "Properties" set with the only exceptions being the servers and account names and passwords.

Well, I was looking for a revert as well due to the clumsy nature of the redesigned mail.

Clumsy why?

Well I like to sort mails where my most recent are at the top, and while 11.6 allows me to do this, it doesn't also allow me to put the action bar (forward, delete, etc.) at the top where it is most useful (and where it was in previous builds).

I've faithfully used Opera for years, but with the clumsy email redesign ... and the current conflict with using yahoo mail thru the browser, I am not sure how long I can hold on.

Originally posted by rogue4hire:

've faithfully used Opera for years, but with the clumsy email redesign ... and the current conflict with using yahoo mail thru the browser, I am not sure how long I can hold on.

Greeting ,

If you want to revert back to 11.52 , I hope that you did a full back up of your profile before you updated to 11.60 . If not you can't revert 11.60 to 11.52 because the mail format changed as well .

However the new sorting system works the same way even though it can be a bit tricky to set up . there are now two sorting options global and local folder . You will just have to play with them to get each folder reset to your taste. Read about the changes here :

blogging about mail call

I hope that the article will help you get conformable with the new system. I too was shocked by the big changes but soon adapted and grew to like the improvements to speed and content rendering .

cheers!!