Now chinese browser copies Opera Mini UI

This is said the interface of upcoming UC 8.0 :
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Ucweb is much more better than operamini. Opera has ignored java, no significant improvement..

Originally posted by Praneil:

Ucweb is much more better than operamini. Opera has ignored java, no significant improvement..

Yes, that browser is very good choice for IE6 users

Thats offtopic dude.. Ie6 is an outdated pc browser By the way where did u got that screenshot? Thats just a theme of ucweb..

Originally posted by Praneil:

Ucweb is much more better than operamini. Opera has ignored java, no significant improvement..

Not sure why you are lying like that. Opera Mini 6.5 for Java was released just a couple of weeks ago or so, wasn't it?

And if UCWEB is better, how come all it does is to rip off Opera Mini? UCWEB is just a pathetic clone.

It's true that uc is ahead of opera mini in many features. I have used it for some days and I think opera mini would be a killer browser if it had some of uc's good features like nice themes, viewing page info, a lot of customization etc.

Overall, opera mini is really much better than uc. But still, it'd be soooo cool if opera mini had those nice features!!! QQ browser has most of those feature too

I agree that Chinese browser has lot of features, but how many of them are working? For most of sites you have to change user agent and other settings to make them appear. Download doesn't start or gives 0 kb for most of file sharing and other sites. Homepage is full of advertisements. Upload never works. You can't compare rendering, it is 0/10. How many web technology does it support? It doesn't even render HTML properly. YouTube becomes useless.

The main reason of popularity of the crap browser is Indians and few Indonesians. Otherwise no one cares about that browser.

One thing is that people think that browser's compression is very high. And why wouldn't it high? It removes lot of style, most of scripts, doesn't reload on text input, doesn't refresh client when server copy is changed, makes the page so ugly. Even if you get the final page without compression, it would be 10 times small than original.

Another reason is Download Manager. It looks cool but it is evil. If you download 1 MB file with 10 KB block size, it will send 103 requests to server. If 10 people do it similarly, site will start saying "Connection Time Out".

Originally posted by maddog3:

I agree that Chinese browser has lot of features, but how many of them are working? For most of sites you have to change user agent and other settings to make them appear. Download doesn't start or gives 0 kb for most of file sharing and other sites. Homepage is full of advertisements. Upload never works. You can't compare rendering, it is 0/10. How many web technology does it support? It doesn't even render HTML properly. YouTube becomes useless.

The main reason of popularity of the crap browser is Indians and few Indonesians. Otherwise no one cares about that browser.

One thing is that people think that browser's compression is very high. And why wouldn't it high? It removes lot of style, most of scripts, doesn't reload on text input, doesn't refresh client when server copy is changed, makes the page so ugly. Even if you get the final page without compression, it would be 10 times small than original.

Another reason is Download Manager. It looks cool but it is evil. If you download 1 MB file with 10 KB block size, it will send 103 requests to server. If 10 people do it similarly, site will start saying "Connection Time Out".

bro ur almost points are true for ucweb.
But s40 users like me ucweb is the best mobile browser yet.bcoz operamini careless 4 me.they even not fixed with memory issue in 5.x to 6.5 versns.U can say that its bcoz low ram but ucweb never gave me OUT OF MEMORY ERROR.and it has no js so its 10 times faster than operamini for opening pages.by the way we have operamini 4 series but it has no good downld manager.SO SAD.

Of course due to low memory. You can't blame Microsoft if Windows 7 crash due to 512 MB RAM. Similar applies here. If you want best out of best, you need better device.

Originally posted by maddog3:

I agree that Chinese browser has lot of features, but how many of them are working? For most of sites you have to change user agent and other settings to make them appear. Download doesn't start or gives 0 kb for most of file sharing and other sites. Homepage is full of advertisements. Upload never works. You can't compare rendering, it is 0/10. How many web technology does it support? It doesn't even render HTML properly. YouTube becomes useless.

The main reason of popularity of the crap browser is Indians and few Indonesians. Otherwise no one cares about that browser.

One thing is that people think that browser's compression is very high. And why wouldn't it high? It removes lot of style, most of scripts, doesn't reload on text input, doesn't refresh client when server copy is changed, makes the page so ugly. Even if you get the final page without compression, it would be 10 times small than original.

Another reason is Download Manager. It looks cool but it is evil. If you download 1 MB file with 10 KB block size, it will send 103 requests to server. If 10 people do it similarly, site will start saying "Connection Time Out".

You didn't exactly get my point. I believe I did say that opera mini is the better browser. UC can't load many pages. Its browsing isn't nice which puts opera mini far ahead. But they do have a lot of customization options and I really like them. I think opera mini should introduce more customization/preference options in the future so that users can get exactly what they want. Of course, there should be also an option for default settings so that people who don't know what they're doing will be safe from messing up.

Those uc themes looks cool. Maybe opera mini could make it possilbe for developers to make themes/skins for opera mini? And night mode, it's also something that opera mini doesn't have. And later versions than opera mini 4.4 don't have the option to view page info.

These features may seem very little and insignificant to you. But like I said, opera mini would be invincible if it had them and maybe a few other features.

Adding other themes would be cool. People like me use Fullscreen mostly, so not of much use to me. Night Mode can be applied by bookmarklets. Some phones have brightness control option. I don't understand about Page Info, you can edit web address directly by #1.

Originally posted by maddog3:

I agree that Chinese browser has lot of features, but how many of them are working? For most of sites you have to change user agent and other settings to make them appear.

Well , have you ever heard about the international version of this browser. It opens all the blocked sites.

Originally posted by maddog3:

The main reason of popularity of the crap browser is Indians and few Indonesians.

As much as I remember, in a poll held by About.com last year, this browser came in second after opera mini in most popular browser.

Originally posted by maddog3:

One thing is that people think that browser's compression is very high.

In official site, it says that the compression level is 80%, so no one says that its compression level is higher than om.

Originally posted by maddog3:

Another reason is Download Manager. It looks cool but it is evil. If you download 1 MB file with 10 KB block size, it will send 103 requests to server. If 10 people do it similarly, site will start saying "Connection Time Out".

Have you ever tried downloading in peak hour on 2G network ? At that time even a small file of 300 kb in opera mini takes 4 to 5 mins to download but uc downloads them in flat 1 to 2 mins and I'm saying all this by using om and uc simultaneously for 4 years. So all I want to say is that , no one can beat opera mini in browsing but if you are in slow network and need quick downloading you need a download manager like uc browser.

Originally posted by shubh0ghosh:

Originally posted by maddog3:

I agree that Chinese browser has lot of features, but how many of them are working? For most of sites you have to change user agent and other settings to make them appear.

Well , have you ever heard about the international version of this browser. It opens all the blocked sites.

I have heard and I have used. It doesn't open even basic sites like twitter, google, gmail, facebook, yahoo. You can check it yourself if in their forum. All you get is blank page and have to change user agents and other options and reload again.

Originally posted by shubh0ghosh:

Originally posted by maddog3:

The main reason of popularity of the crap browser is Indians and few Indonesians.

As much as I remember, in a poll held by About.com last year, this browser came in second after opera mini in most popular browser.

UC added a link on homepage for everyone, by clicking it the vote will be sent in favor of UC. Clicking twice led to 2 votes. Opera and BOLT didn't care about it.

Originally posted by shubh0ghosh:

Originally posted by maddog3:

One thing is that people think that browser's compression is very high.

In official site, it says that the compression level is 80%, so no one says that its compression level is higher than om.

I already answered in my post.

Originally posted by shubh0ghosh:

Originally posted by maddog3:

Another reason is Download Manager. It looks cool but it is evil. If you download 1 MB file with 10 KB block size, it will send 103 requests to server. If 10 people do it similarly, site will start saying "Connection Time Out".

Have you ever tried downloading in peak hour on 2G network ? At that time even a small file of 300 kb in opera mini takes 4 to 5 mins to download but uc downloads them in flat 1 to 2 mins and I'm saying all this by using om and uc simultaneously for 4 years. So all I want to say is that , no one can beat opera mini in browsing but if you are in slow network and need quick downloading you need a download manager like uc browser.

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I didn't say about speed. Speed is always dependent on network. If you have 1 MBps limit, UC won't give 2 MBps, neither Opera will give 0.5 MBps. None of these browsers compress downloads. Technique used by UC is very bad, can lead to DoS. I have downloaded Windows 8 Developer Preview ISO 2.8 GB with Opera.

Om6.5 java only has traffic statistics feature. and om4.2+ already had it.. So what improvements? Scrolling become more worst, memory problems still even in mobile with good ram.. If more features r added then opera will become bulky and freeze often..
Ucweb has lots of features and its ui works very fast than opera mini ui.. Ucweb never freeze..
Have u tried browsing opera mini 6.5 java more than 10mins? Its ui works slow after 10mins of browsing, so no use..

Originally posted by maddog3:

Adding other themes would be cool. People like me use Fullscreen mostly, so not of much use to me. Night Mode can be applied by bookmarklets. Some phones have brightness control option. I don't understand about Page Info, you can edit web address directly by #1.

Bookmarklets? What's that? And I want page info because it shows the size of the page and other details. Sometimes opera mini loads so fast that I can't see the size of the page. It matters when I'm not on a monthly data plan. Some phones have brightness control, but it's in the phone's display settings, right? I think it'd be more user friendly if a direct option was available in opera mini.

Originally posted by Praneil:

Om6.5 java only has traffic statistics feature. and om4.2+ already had it.. So what improvements? Scrolling become more worst, memory problems still even in mobile with good ram.. If more features r added then opera will become bulky and freeze often..
Ucweb has lots of features and its ui works very fast than opera mini ui.. Ucweb never freeze..
Have u tried browsing opera mini 6.5 java more than 10mins? Its ui works slow after 10mins of browsing, so no use..

I see how you posted twice with your UC. By the way I have used Opera Mini for a whole day without closing it.

Originally posted by Daphne96:

Originally posted by maddog3:

Adding other themes would be cool. People like me use Fullscreen mostly, so not of much use to me. Night Mode can be applied by bookmarklets. Some phones have brightness control option. I don't understand about Page Info, you can edit web address directly by #1.

Bookmarklets? What's that? And I want page info because it shows the size of the page and other details. Sometimes opera mini loads so fast that I can't see the size of the page. It matters when I'm not on a monthly data plan. Some phones have brightness control, but it's in the phone's display settings, right? I think it'd be more user friendly if a direct option was available in opera mini.

http://operawiki.info/BookMarklets , See White text, black background. Either way, you can add bookmarklet by pressing #5, Add current page, then Name=Night Mode and URL=

javascript:(function(){var%20b=document.getElementsByTagName('*');for(var%20i=0;i<b.length;i++){b[i].style.backgroundImage='none';b[i].style.backgroundColor='#000000';b[i].style.color='#FFFFFF'}})();

. Use it when you want to apply dark theme. There are several bookmarklets on internet, you can test them on desktop browser or Opera Mini.

Haha u wrong bro, I replied my opera mini 6.5 java.. Its 2 times posted because of operamini awesome javascript.. While using facebook on opera mini, everything gets posted 2 or more times. But by ucweb no any problem regarding this because it doesn't have javascript..

I never faced such problem. I am using Opera Mini since v2. I recommend you to stay with UC if you prefer without Js (even IE6 has Js )

hey maddog3, I tried to copy your url but I don't know why opera mini isn't copying it. I tried to quote you but that didn't work too. Maybe that's because your last reply to me is too big?

Anyway, I tried a few of these bookmarklets. They're very cool!! But they only work on that wikia page when I click on any link. I wonder how can can apply to other pages?

Click bookmarklet, then quickly press #1, it will reveal the code which I copied in previous post. There are lot of things you can do with bookmarklets, like download youtube videos, change page layout, reveal links, ... (Only Opera Mini supports bookmarklets on Mobile platform.)

I cant quote too..
Btw seems u like ie6 I have removed ie6 from my pc since long time and I dont even use ie9.. I use chrome
But bro I dont expect pc browsing on mobile, I open pc sites only and pc and mobile sites only on mobile

I tried it, doesn't work When I click #1 sometimes I can only get a glimpse because the real address disappears from the address text box almost immedietly so I can't bookmark or copy it.

If you can get into addressbar before page loads, you can copy it with Options->Fullscreen Edit and then use phone's clipboard. Instead you can press left soft key after clicking link and press 1 to get Copy option.

Tried it. *sigh*

Opera mini browser is perhaps too good. It's so goddamn fast that that address disappears as soon as I click copy. I can get those bookmarklet addresses using my pc, right? Although it's going to be a real pain typing them one by one to bookmark them in opera mini. I'm lucky that my phone has a qwerty keyboard or I wouldn't even consider doing it. And all that trouble for night mode!!! They should include it in the future.

The UC browser scores less in the html5 test than Opera Mini. Heck, the browser only scores 1 in the Acid3 test. Also, the shortcuts and interface are very hard to use. There are just too many choices and I frequently go to the Facebook tab when I want to go to search.

Night node is nice but black text on black background makes it unreadable.

Originally posted by wikipedian:

The UC browser scores less in the html5 test than Opera Mini. Heck, the browser only scores 1 in the Acid3 test. Also, the shortcuts and interface are very hard to use. There are just too many choices and I frequently go to the Facebook tab when I want to go to search.

Night node is nice but black text on black background makes it unreadable.

Black text on black background?! I didn't see anything like that while using night mode. I had no problem in reading.

I mean black on gray background (the text color does not change, only the background). Either way, its quite hard to read the texts.

Originally posted by wikipedian:

I mean black on gray background (the text color does not change, only the background). Either way, its quite hard to read the texts.

Lol. Which version of uc browser do you use? I use uc 8 and in night mode it shows dark navy blue background and very light blue text. It's actually quite comforting to the eye.

I would have prefered white on black background. Also, the user interface is not as simple as Opera Mini. Then there is another case of standards compatibility.

Originally posted by wikipedian:

I would have prefered white on black background. Also, the user interface is not as simple as Opera Mini. Then there is another case of standards compatibility.

well, I prefer dark navy blue. Anyway, people don't always prefer the same thing, I guess.