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4. December 2011, 08:37:15

vanhabl

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Kinetic or inertial scrolling

I think it will we useful for many users.

4. December 2011, 09:39:51

greench

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This is available on Opera mini and mobile.
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4. December 2011, 09:57:31

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Originally posted by vanhabl:

I think it will we useful for many users.

... why?
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4. December 2011, 11:33:11

vanhabl

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Originally posted by serious:

... why?


It is naturally for perception of content.

4. December 2011, 12:02:11

Shandra

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Joust out of interest: what is kinetic scrolling? The annoying concept of scrolling up/down until stopped?
(at least annoying to me - as I lately bought a new G500 Lasermouse (as I was so fond of my G5 1st Edition) and it took some time to get accustomed to the new design and that "unlock" the Mousewheel key wich will result in such a form)
Ok, it's Opera we are talking about here - so if its just optional I don't mind wink But IMHO it only makes sense on Mobile Devices as on most Desktop Systems such a solution to scrolling is most of the time provided via your input device drivers (mouse, touchpad, whatsoever) and assigning that function to a specific key of that device...
At least in my experience that was the traditional place for it.
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22. January 2012, 21:25:35

Barry2000

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The golden era of Opera scrolling was 9.2x. Scrolling was silky smooth back then. But they changed it in Opera 10 to jerky. That was the reason why I refused to upgrade and stuck with 9.2x.

23. January 2012, 01:08:47

schemestrom

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Originally posted by serious:

Originally posted by vanhabl:

I think it will we useful for many users.

... why?



I use Opera on a convertible laptop and would like this, because "Scroll is Pan" just feels terrible.

23. January 2012, 09:33:03

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Originally posted by schemestrom:

I use Opera on a convertible laptop and would like this, because "Scroll is Pan" just feels terrible.

see, that's a useful reason, not just "It is naturally for perception of content." which essentially says nothing bigsmile
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24. January 2012, 03:32:19

+1
opera needs some eye-candy, but also get ready for tablets.

24. January 2012, 08:16:28

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Originally posted by ignaciomunoz88:

opera needs some eye-candy, but also get ready for tablets.

1) kinetic scrolling is not eye candy, it is real usability as you can just flick the page and let go to get where you want instead of having to swipe over the screen multiple times
2) for tablets (in the sense of "only tablet", not convertibles like the transformer prime) I think Opera mobile is better suited, as the whole UI is oriented towards touch. There is already a build for windows, though it is still only a dev snapshot.

aaanyhow, @topic: +1 for having kinetic scrolling with the "scroll is pan" option.
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24. January 2012, 08:38:46

iWasHere

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+1 it would be a good replacement for the broken "smooth" scrolling.

24. January 2012, 09:58:39

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Originally posted by iWasHere:

it would be a good replacement for the broken "smooth" scrolling.

these are two totally different things usability-wise:
* smooth scrolling is intended to smooth the jumps that are triggered by the mouse wheel (which helps the eye to maintain the position on the page).
* Kinetic scrolling on the other hand is only logical when dragging the page, not when using the mouse wheel (as you expect the mouse wheel to scroll an exactly defined part down, which is also represented by the haptic feedback, while dragging is a fluid motion of "tossing the page around" more or less)
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24. January 2012, 20:40:12

iWasHere

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I know the differences, but smooth scrolling is so broken that I disabled it just to avoid getting headaches when scrolling, & I doubt it will get "fixed" because Opera developer pretty much ignoring all complaints. http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=233122

I don't mind using kinetic scrolling to scroll as long as it doesn't hurt my eyes & give me headache.

25. January 2012, 13:15:51

Originally posted by serious:

Originally posted by ignaciomunoz88:

opera needs some eye-candy, but also get ready for tablets.

1) kinetic scrolling is not eye candy, it is real usability as you can just flick the page and let go to get where you want instead of having to swipe over the screen multiple times
2) for tablets (in the sense of "only tablet", not convertibles like the transformer prime) I think Opera mobile is better suited, as the whole UI is oriented towards touch. There is already a build for windows, though it is still only a dev snapshot.

aaanyhow, @topic: +1 for having kinetic scrolling with the "scroll is pan" option.




Of course kinetic scrolling means eye candy for the common user! just think of people looking at safari browser! it has a lot of animations and the scrol is very smooth wich users LOVE because they think its a well rounded and carefully built product

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