What a horribly misinformed review!

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/opera-116-better-but-not-good-enough-review/1737

Originally posted by tschettler:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/opera-116-better-but-not-good-enough-review/1737

Agreed!!

And a Very Narrow perspective, also.

should have used the Peace Keeper benchmark as it's more impartial than the ones he used but then again what do you expect from an ill informed chromidiot or firefoxtard:doh:

that Kraken benchmark is one faulty site ok if I run the whole benchmark I get a score of 11885.1ms thats fine pretty meaningless drivel

but some of the tests performed have links to the sngle test done where you can run just that test so I did

whole bench run gaussian-blur: 2982.5ms desaturate: 1101.7ms astar: 1325.7ms
just this part gaussian-blur: 2806ms desaturate: 22ms astar: 1241ms

it would seem that these new figure I get when running the linked benchmark would give me an much higher score overall than those used with the entire bench run

old score: 11885.1 new adjusted score: 10,049.9 thats a pretty big reduction in time (ms) 1,835.2ms

also the peacekeeper score I get is 2634 he only gets 2,173

LOL...lost credibility as a reviewer when he said that Speed Dial was a catch up attempt by opera

although i do agree with the reviewer that JS performance is poor on opera, you cannot accuse opera of just trying to play catch-up. their strength has always been innovation, and it's the other browsers that copy from opera.

i feel like opera gets worse when it tries to copy other browsers (a la the removal of the web address drop down bar to match chrome hahaha)

Originally posted by GeneValgene:

although i do agree with the reviewer that JS performance is poor on opera

Except that is completely false. Opera is often shown to be faster than other browsers in JS benchmarks, as a matter of fact.

But he used the horribly broken and biased V8 and Kraken benchmarks, and they are totally bogus. The V8 benchmark was tweaked for Chrome!

i feel like opera gets worse when it tries to copy other browsers (a la the removal of the web address drop down bar to match chrome hahaha)

What removal? It's still there. Wow, you are misinformed.

It seemed like a reasonable report which we simply don't want to believe. And numbers do indicate that Chrome is quickly becoming the browser against which all others will soon be measured. It's simply a fact and hundreds of millions of users can't be wrong all the time. No offense meant and I have used Opera since version 5 but Chrome is now my default.

For most folks, "right" or "wrong" has nothing to do with it. They use whatever is the default installed browser on their system (if any), otherwise they choose the one they've heard the most about from friends or a very few big-name websites. How many of those "hundreds of millions of users" do you believe ever make side-by-side comparisons of multiple browsers on their system to find out what is truly "right" for them? Having lived through the "browser wars" since Mosaic days, I can assure you that very few probe this issue deeply. In reality, most of those who even begin to explore browsers usually only go so far as to ask the opinion of some "guru" acquaintance of theirs, and then go with whatever his personal biases might reflect.

If majority-usage was the measure of all things good and "right", we'd long ago have abandoned any browser but Internet Explorer. Chrome suffers from the same foundational problems as IE (the motivation of those behind it, and how that ultimately impacts design), and it will eventually follow the same path of peak-and-decline.

The neat thing is that for those who do decide to probe deeply, there are multiple choices in browsers available, Opera being one of the outstanding ones.

Originally posted by blackbird71:

for those who do decide to probe deeply, there are multiple choices in browsers available

I've tried pretty well all of them as they came out, but have stuck with Opera since about version 2 (maybe even 1), even paying to register until they didn't want us to anymore.
SRWare Iron is pretty good, but no integrated mail, and some bothersome little Chrome things, maybe too stark. Chrome I had in the machine for a few days - got paranoid - Google is spooky enough, but going totally Google is just plain scary, so SRWare Iron it is.
Firefox I recently tried again after a hiatus of a couple of years - I lasted about a day with it - it's like 10 years ago all over again - found it very counterintuitiive and just plain clunky.
IE still doesn't have mouse gestures!..and they only discovered tabs a little while ago. You'd think they would have picked up on these things years sooner when those such as Maxthon and the possibly-even-better 'The World' (now seemingly inactive, last version was 3.503) which used the IE engine to somehow create a much faster and feature-rich browser far superior than the agonizingly slow IE.

That reviewer writes like he was given an assignment to evaluate browsers and suddenly became a 3-day expert to meet the deadline. That may not be the case, but he sounds like it - a tabloid reviewer. To say that Opera can't keep up with the competition against (in many cases) dedicated benchmark suites is not saying much, and he seems not to know that the 'innovations' were innovations that Opera introduced.

One reality exists though: Opera standard browser only seems to have about 2.4 percent of the browser market. When you consider Firefox at 38%, IE at 21% (they used to be 90!) and Chrome at 33% you just have to shake your head...oh, and Safari at 4% (which roughly corresponds to the Apple Computer market).

And about your tagline: I only got rid of Win98 on the last machine a little while ago, but run my XP in Win98 style ...

Originally posted by Slamdex:

i feel like opera gets worse when it tries to copy other browsers (a la the removal of the web address drop down bar to match chrome hahaha)

What removal? It's still there. Wow, you are misinformed.

i know it wasn't removed. but opera changed the default to having it hidden in like 11.5 or something to look more like chrome. i think opera was fine just the way it was