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25. January 2006, 19:26:22

Zotlan

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Opera 9 TP2 coming not soon at all? Read all about it!

http://operawatch.blogspot.com/2006/01/technical-preview-2-for-opera-9-coming.html
sounds like good news, though his update isn't very promissing.

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6. February 2006, 15:55:38

Naelphin

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labs.opera.com:

Opera Labs is not open yet. Please come back on Tuesday.

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6. February 2006, 15:58:13

Jakub81

Posts: 2030

Originally posted by jax:

Yep. Browsing is out. Watching time fly is in. A metronome feature is planned for Opera 10.

Will be usefull while waiting for new Preview releases

6. February 2006, 16:03:02

DKDIB

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Jakub wrote:
> http://labs.opera.com/
>
>

"Labs"? Why some public labs?
They would make Opera open source or develop widget only?

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6. February 2006, 16:08:30

Daedalus

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Originally posted by jax:

Yep. Browsing is out. Watching time fly is in. A metronome feature is planned for Opera 10.

Will there be a countdown widget that counts down to the next WIR date? Preferably counting downwards from infinity

6. February 2006, 16:09:08

Orlando

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They have Opera site for investors - www.opera.com, Opera site for users - my.opera.com and now Opera site for developers - labs.opera.com.

6. February 2006, 16:32:56

minisu

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Originally posted by DKDIB:

Jakub wrote:
> http://labs.opera.com/
>
>

"Labs"? Why some public labs?
They would make Opera open source or develop widget only?

I would suggest widgets only.

6. February 2006, 17:13:23

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or how about wir.opera.com - anouncements about opera releases, with a random date generator!!

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6. February 2006, 17:31:21

lsaplai

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Originally posted by Rijk:

MossMan: but that's not a pretty clock!

A clock's a clock. What the point of putting one on the desktop anyway when most people I've seen work with all their windows maximised. Hence they do not see their desktop.

I must be missing something here. I'll wait and see before I make a judgement on those "widgets"

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6. February 2006, 17:36:23

aimzz

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With Opera's inclusion of BitTorrent functionality, can we uninstall the stand-alone BitTorrent proggy? Ie, will TP2 include a runtime type of BitTorrent?

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6. February 2006, 17:39:48

flankker

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god bless opera, counting the hours until tomorrow comes

6. February 2006, 17:40:20

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deleted: sry, double post (must be all the excitement)

6. February 2006, 17:40:22

Zotlan

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Originally posted by aimzz:

With Opera's inclusion of BitTorrent functionality, can we uninstall the stand-alone BitTorrent proggy?

I think so. The previous preview of BT in Opera did not need a BT program installed, i do not think it wil be different for this one.
HOwever. If they have not vastly improved the UI and options for BT i will not be uninstalling my current BT program.

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6. February 2006, 17:41:18

vinczej

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Originally posted by superjoppe:

Yay, finally I can see the clock without looking at the menubar or via Dashboard!

Why you can take the clock from Preferences/Advanced/Status/Clock.

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6. February 2006, 17:55:30

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6. February 2006, 18:05:45

Orlando

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Not tommorow... Today!

6. February 2006, 18:22:04

sebt

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Woohoo

Due to the inevitable load on O's servers, might it be an idea to set up a torrent so that we can all "share out the love" as quickly as possible?

Thoughts?

Seb

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6. February 2006, 18:22:34

mufaa

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Originally posted by sebt:

Woohoo

Due to the inevitable load on O's servers, might it be an idea to set up a torrent so that we can all "share out the love" as quickly as possible?

Thoughts?

Seb

Thats a great idea. We could download it once to get the new opera and download it again to test the bittorrent client. lol.

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6. February 2006, 18:24:59

flankker

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Originally posted by mufaa:

One n half hr to go...

really? isnt it being released tomorrow?

6. February 2006, 18:28:06

Jakub81

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No, four and a half hours to go

6. February 2006, 18:34:04

Zotlan

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Originally posted by Jakub81:

No, four and a half hours to go

I somehow doubt that they'll release it at 00:01h tomorrow.

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6. February 2006, 18:36:57

chaimav

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Current time in Oslo

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6. February 2006, 18:50:54 (edited)

aimzz

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Is the tomorrow/today issue a question of time zones & international date lines?
Maybe we should synchronize our watches...

...er, hourglasses...

Edit:

Originally posted by chaimav:

Current time in Oslo

Thanks, chaimav

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6. February 2006, 18:41:24

codewalker

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Still waiting...

6. February 2006, 18:53:28

dan1el

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My guess is 0700. Thats when they start at work or something.

6. February 2006, 18:55:02

YtseJam

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Then it'll definitely be after 7am (damn, that's early).

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6. February 2006, 18:58:59

aimzz

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What time of day does Opera usually post updated proggies?

Also, should we uninstall TP1 before installing, or would that info be posted with the download?

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6. February 2006, 19:25:00

chesss

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Originally posted by aimzz:

Also, should we uninstall TP1 before installing, or would that info be posted with the download?

No there won't be a need to uninstall tp1 but don't install over tp1. Install the new version in a seperate folder and make sure that you are not installing for multiple users.

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6. February 2006, 19:32:30

Saddle Magic

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Installing for multiple users poses no problems. Just make sure you name a new directory.

6. February 2006, 19:38:48

chesss

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Originally posted by Saddle Magic:

Installing for multiple users poses no problems.

Well yes it doesn't have a problem as such, but what if he has a past installation in multiple user mode of a stable release. Then the old settings could get messed up.

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6. February 2006, 19:41:34

Saddle Magic

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Originally posted by chesss:

Well yes it doesn't have a problem as such, but what if he has a past installation in multiple user mode of a stable release. Then the old settings could get messed up.

Not that I have seen. Now if your computer frequently confuses directories then that is a different problem.

Just make sure you give the new version a unique name, something like "Opera9tp2". I would also recommend not letting it install to the start menu and making your shortcuts manually.

6. February 2006, 19:51:40

mikyjr

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Originally posted by aimzz:

With Opera's inclusion of BitTorrent functionality, can we uninstall the stand-alone BitTorrent proggy? Ie, will TP2 include a runtime type of BitTorrent

I think it is useless to have a posibility uninstall bittorrent, becouse the code of function bittorrent have only 24KB -> Bittorrent not slow down Opera browser

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6. February 2006, 20:23:14

chesss

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Originally posted by Saddle Magic:

Not that I have seen.

No! see, when you install for multiple users, the default profile directory is

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Opera

this directory is same for all versions, betas, preview, stable etc. So if there is a past installation in multiple user mode of a stable release, then that profile will get overwritten , whenever a new version is installed.
btw there is no harm in installing a stable release over another, its just that we are dealing with previews right now.

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6. February 2006, 20:45:00 (edited)

Saddle Magic

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Originally posted by chesss:

No! see, when you install for multiple users, the default profile directory is

No, it goes one layer deeper than that.

C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Opera\[Opera]\

I currently have 9 different installations of Opera on this computer. Two of them are Opera 6.xx, one is Opera 5.12, they do not support multiple user profiles. The others are all installed for multiple users. I have been doing this for 6 months (as long as I have had this machine) and have not had a problem.

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6. February 2006, 20:54:32

flankker

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Originally posted by Saddle Magic:

Originally posted by chesss:
No! see, when you install for multiple users, the default profile directory is

No, it goes one layer deeper than that.

C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Opera\[Opera]\

I currently have 9 different installations of Opera on this computer. Two of them are Opera 6.xx, one is Opera 5.12, they do not support multiple user profiles. The others are all installed for multiple users. I have been doing this for 6 months (as long as I have had this machine) and have not had a problem.

Desk01-Dec05.jpg

so you are saying i'll be all right installing the tp2 with my old 8.51 as long as they are installed in different directories? im confused

6. February 2006, 21:00:16

Saddle Magic

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Originally posted by flankker:

so you are saying i'll be all right installing the tp2 with my old 8.51 as long as they are installed in different directories? im confused

Yes, that has been said repeatedly and is 100% true.

I will admonish you to do complete backups first.

6. February 2006, 21:04:08

chaimav

Posts: 934

Originally posted by flankker:

so you are saying i'll be all right installing the tp2 with my old 8.51 as long as they are installed in different directories? im confused

Yes, you can have as many instances of Opera on your computer at the same time. They can even both be open at the same time. Just use different directories, to keep things simple use the single user instilation and all of your files will be nice and tidy in a single directory.

Sorry about the spelling typos, I'm kinda tired now.

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6. February 2006, 21:10:15

Saddle Magic

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Originally posted by chaimav:

to keep things simple use the single user instilation

I find it simpler having them all as multiple user installations

6. February 2006, 21:12:59

Zotlan

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Originally posted by Saddle Magic:

Originally posted by chaimav:
to keep things simple use the single user instilation

I find it simpler having them all as multiple user installations

Much easier to keep track of things if thewy all in the same file isn't it?

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6. February 2006, 21:17:23

Saddle Magic

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Originally posted by Zotlan:

Much easier to keep track of things if thewy all in the same file isn't it?

Yes, with multiple user installations all my profiles are located in one directory.

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6. February 2006, 21:19:14

mufaa

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Tomorrow when i wake up, i want Opera TP2. It better be...

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6. February 2006, 21:30:53

chesss

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Originally posted by Saddle Magic:

I currently have 9 different installations of Opera on this computer. Two of them are Opera 6.xx, one is Opera 5.12, they do not support multiple user profiles. The others are all installed for multiple users. I have been doing this for 6 months (as long as I have had this machine) and have not had a problem.

Ok gotcha finally

*prepares to switch to multiple user mode*

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6. February 2006, 21:33:38

Saddle Magic

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You don't have to switch, either mode works, just don't say there are any particular problems. I have yet to find any.

6. February 2006, 22:13:12

aimzz

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Does somebody have the link for the page with definitions of Technical Preview, Beta, Released, etc?

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6. February 2006, 22:16:51

Daedalus

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Originally posted by aimzz:

Does somebody have the link for the page with definitions of Technical Preview, Beta, Released, etc?

http://snapshot.opera.com/

6. February 2006, 22:17:20

shoust

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Originally posted by aimzz:

Does somebody have the link for the page with definitions of Technical Preview, Beta, Released, etc?

http://snapshot.opera.com/

Main page

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6. February 2006, 22:27:36

aimzz

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Originally posted by shoust:

http://snapshot.opera.com/

LOL! Thanks-- Is it part of the Opera site? Where is someone likely to stumble onto it from?

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6. February 2006, 22:29:03

olli

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Originally posted by aimzz:

Originally posted by shoust:
http://snapshot.opera.com/

Thanks-- Is it part of the Opera site? Where is someone likely to stumble onto it from?

From the release note we make on the beta forums each time we do a preview release :-)

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6. February 2006, 22:44:46 (edited)

aimzz

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Originally posted by olli:

From the release note we make on the beta forums each time we do a preview release :-)

I knew I'd seen it somewhere... want to post the link on a forum I use where somebody posted the TP2 news-- just as a qualifier to pre-empt whiners (not that it will do any good...)

Addendum: Also posted link to 8.51 http://www.wincustomize.com/Forums.aspx?ForumID=8&AID=100040

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6. February 2006, 23:01:12

Tracio

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http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=179100692&subSection=

Other improvements include a content blocker similar to the Firefox Adblock extension, thumbnail previews of tabs (akin to the Quick Tabs feature in Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 Preview), and a customizable search engine field in the Opera toolbar.

Another thing to speculate on...

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Python script to clean usage-report.xml and convert it to html [command line].
Bash script to back up Opera files.
Bash script to move custom Opera settings between weekly builds.

6. February 2006, 23:19:42

ThePast

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Originally posted by Tracio:

Another thing to speculate on...

I wish that is true regardless of the fact that I have argued that it won't happen. Sometimes it can be nice to be proven wrong, this would be one of those occasions. I just hope that my arguments for why it won't happen won't prove to be right.

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