11.60 - is it "Stable"? Frequent freezes (crashes)

I have updated Opera to 11.60 - there are some very nice improvements! Many thanks to all developers!

But, sadly, this version is more unstable for me than some previous betas. I'm using Crunchbang linux (Debian based) 64bit, only Java plugin installed (no Flash). Even with all extensions disabled, Opera freezes regularly (whether I am browsing or working with other apps) several hours after launching. The behavior is similar to one described here - I have to kill the process (force-quit isn't enough) before restarting.

Also there are strange delays with dialog windows (e.g. Open or Save) - navigation, selection etc. - all is performed with a delay about a second with no visible CPU or HDD usage.

Most disappointing is that the new version has converted the mail files to some new format apparently, incompatible with older versions of Opera...

Ok, finally I have figured out the cause of the problem - it was a Speed Dial button with a "Reload every..." setting. Opening the URL of this button makes Opera totally unresponsive. I have filed the bug report already.

Originally posted by ohme:

My copy of opera behaving same way...
there is something definitely wrong with open/save dialogs, ... not sure though what speed dial has to do with it! I don't even use it!

Speed dial has nothing to do with the dialog windows, I think. The cause I mentioned (specific URL problem) is related only to my major concern - regular freezing. And this URL-bug is quite strange - Opera freezes even with very minimalistic settings - disabled all plugins, JS, images, cookies, CSS - and at the same time Opera opens the off-line copy of this page (downloaded with FF) absolutely fine (as well as with Opera Turbo enabled for on-line).

Same problem with dialog windows here (Slackware 13.37) – both gtk and qt are lagging. No slowdown when X11 dialog toolkit is selected but come on... Also, the tray icon is not translucent in tint2. At least I had no problems with freezing but that's probably because I don't use plugins.

I can confirm the problem with the dialogs in 11.60 under Debian 6.0.3 64-bit - the Save dialog has a noticeable delay of about a second. I have also had crashes on sites where I use Save file often.

Interesting. At home I use 32-bit Kubuntu Linux 11.10 (Oneiric) and I don't have any problems with freezing. I've got a huge number of site-specific settings, I've got some site-specific CSS and Javascript code and I use my own PAC file to configure site-specific proxy settings. I have the following plugins:

Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_29

I also regularly use a 64-bit Kubuntu Linux 11.04 with Opera and I still haven't had any special problems with freezing or crashing. A few months ago Opera UI was oddly unresponsive on this 64-bit computer, but the problem went away by itself (presumably because of apt-get dist-upgrade).

I can confirm this problem and klayman's analyses. I my case the freeze was caused by Google Plus ( https://plus.google.com ).
The browser will freeze about a minute after opening this page, or reloading the speed dial button.

Using Debian Sid 64 bit. Opera 11.60 and Opera-Next 12.00

Originally posted by zombie:

I can confirm this problem and klayman's analyses. I my case the freeze was caused by Google Plus ( https://plus.google.com ).

As for me, I experienced the freeze immediately on opening carwalls.com
UPD: now main page loads fine, but the second page ("next >>") causes the freeze as earlier. I have no idea, why the same page loads normally offline...

Originally posted by ohme:

Originally posted by klayman:

Also there are strange delays with dialog windows (e.g. Open or Save) - navigation, selection etc. - all is performed with a delay about a second with no visible CPU or HDD usage.

My copy of opera behaving same way...
there is something definitely wrong with open/save dialogs, ... not sure though what speed dial has to do with it! I don't even use it!

agreed, even i have noticed slow downs when the open/save dialog comes up

Ubuntu 10.04(32 bit) , opera 11.60

Hi,

I was also getting regular freezes with 11.60, occasionally when attempting to scroll down before a page had fully loaded, but most often on regular page loads or when Opera was "idle".

It was easy enough to kill & restart Opera, but I've also had two system hangs requiring a hard reboot.

Again, Opera was "idle", but after rebooting and doing a forced manual fsck, curiously, each time, the only error on the device, and the only file that had gone missing and ended up in lost+found, was ~/.opera/operaprefs.ini.

Since, with 11.60, Opera has seemingly become dangerously unstable, I've now reverted to 11.52.

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OS: Linux 2.6.29-1-netbook
Architecture: i686
Compositor active: No
Desktop environment: Gnome
Window manager: Metacity
Screens: 0: 1024x600 depth 24,32 (default)

I'm getting freezes every few minutes that seem to be caused by checking for mail. CPU usage goes up to 100% for a few minutes, before returning to normal.

Opera 11.60/1185 fresh install, on Ubuntu 11.10/64 bit, also a fresh install.

My freezes are so bad I had to switch to Chrome

I use it everyday and it hasn't crashed or frozen on me.
Opera Version information Version 11.60
Build 1185
Platform Linux
System x86_64, 2.6.32-5-amd64


Distributor: Debian 6.0.3

http://i40.tinypic.com/14klf8o.png

11.61 (still in testing) seems better ...

I also have slowdown when opening save/open dialogs, sometimes for up to 30s (Kubuntu x86_64)
Only in version 11.6, I had no problems in 11.5.

The standard KDE dialog is slow if you have a large directory, if Opera is set to use its own X11 dialogs it will be much faster.

Originally posted by sgunhouse:

The standard KDE dialog is slow if you have a large directory, if Opera is set to use its own X11 dialogs it will be much faster.

I have no similar issues with save dialogs in other programs (including those using the same dialog). However, I hadn't realised that Opea had its own dialog, so I'll try that. How do I change?

Go to opera:config. In the section "File Selector", change "Dialog Toolkit" to 4. Click the Save button, then restart Opera.

Originally posted by ruario:

Could those having regular freezes try this build

http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/jason_11.61-1236/

It includes a fix for CORE-43777 (Freeze when using subpixel rendering), which may be the issue you are seeing.

Thank you very much! Now all issues seem to be fixed! I don't understand though, what was the subpixel rendering used for - I have the font anti-aliasing disabled at least.

Ouch... Perhaps, I was too quick to report that all issues are fixed. At the moment, I have not experienced the freezing on any of the previously problematic sites. And GTK open/save dialogs were very responsive. But after some time Opera was running, those delays in dialogs come back. Opera restart seems to help here - but it's hardly a solution...

Originally posted by ruario:

Could those having regular freezes try this build

http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/jason_11.61-1236/

It includes a fix for CORE-43777 (Freeze when using subpixel rendering), which may be the issue you are seeing.

This has fixed the crash issue for me. I'm going to continue using the X11 kit though, I've found I prefer it. Thanks.

Originally posted by ruario:

please reply back with the result of

opera --full-version 

Here you are:

Opera 11.61 Build 1237 for Linux x86_64.
OS: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64
Architecture: x86_64
Compositor active: Yes
Toolkit: Gtk 2.20.1 using Above
Desktop environment: Unknown
Window manager: compiz
Screens:
0: 1920x1080 depth 24,32 (default)

Running under CrunchBang Statler (10) based on Debian Squeeze, tried different window managers - currently using compiz-standalone.

Originally posted by ruario:

In the mean time try switching to Opera's own toolkit and report back if things work better this way.

Yes, I have tried it - no problems there. But after last restart Opera is running more than 12 hours - no more delays with GTK dialogs either... Can't reproduce the problem.

UPD: and finally delays come again... And I relaunched Opera several times - sometimes these lags remained, sometimes - not. I didn't change anything between restarts. I'm totally confused

yea Im seeing quite a bit of lockups and freezes where I have to kill and restart the X server on Linux Mint 12. It happens whenever I close a bunch of tabs or running flash in couple tabs(i.e youtube).

Specs: AMD Phenom 2.3 GHz Quad Core
8GB Ram
Nvidia GTX200 series 1GB

ill check that out thanks.

Originally posted by ruario:

There is another 11.61 build today by the way. This one we are labelling as a release candidate and I think it is pretty likely it will actually become the 11.61 final: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2012/01/23/11-61-rc

Unfortunately, same here - time lags or delays in GTK dialogs with any window manager. Have you managed to reproduce the bug? If not, would be a virtual machine snapshot useful for you to solve the problem?

11.61 just installed. The first thing it did was freeze, though my problem is email: every time it contacts the imap server it freezes for several minutes on end.

Moving to Chrome and Thunderbird until this is fixed...

It just froze in a way I could see what it was doing, and it was synchronising email. The message was "synchronising 0/4294416346". I may have lots of mail, but certainly not that many! But that number is suspiciously close to 2**32 (which is 4294967296), so that may give a clue to what has gone wrong...