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9. December 2011, 16:54:50

sibelius

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Why Opera Turbo does not show Flash?

Hi, I searched the forum and I see many reports that Turbo do not play Flash video.
I did find an explanation.
Is it possible to set a filter to tell Opera turbo to exclude sites so I can enable turbo for speed in HTML and watch video with turbo off?
Also, does turbo accelerate downloads?
Thanks.

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9. December 2011, 17:05:45

Originally posted by sibelius:

Turbo do not play Flash video.


Wrong. In Turbo mode, you need to click on 'Play' button to play a Flash video.

Originally posted by sibelius:

Also, does turbo accelerate downloads?


Probably not.
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9. December 2011, 18:50:49

sibelius

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Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

Originally posted by sibelius:

Turbo do not play Flash video.


Wrong. In Turbo mode, you need to click on 'Play' button to play a Flash video.



Which play button? I do not see any button in Youtube in Turbo mode, just a black square. Like flash does not load.

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9. December 2011, 23:19:21

blackbird71

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Originally posted by sibelius:

...Is it possible to set a filter to tell Opera turbo to exclude sites so I can enable turbo for speed in HTML and watch video with turbo off? Also, does turbo accelerate downloads? Thanks.

Turbo runs as a proxy on Opera's servers, and compresses graphics/images from sites you visit through those servers. The reduced bandwidth from the compression process speeds the download over slow (dial-up) networks; it accomplishes nothing on fast networks. Supposedly, Turbo is compatible with most user download accelerators (since at least v10.5), though I've never tried it personally.

As to filtering the use of Turbo, I'm unaware of any means to do that. Site Preferences allows the employment of the Preferences > Advanced > Network specified user proxy for specific websites, but Turbo is invoked independently by other of Opera's built-in functions. This, I believe, makes its use "global" for slow networks/sites (except for "secure" sites, browsing to which automatically bypasses Turbo so that the secure stuff doesn't go through the middle-man Turbo servers).
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10. December 2011, 15:34:24

sibelius

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Thanks blackbird71. Any idea about why Turbo does not load Flash? I would like to use Turbo as I notice an improvement of speed when loading pages.

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10. December 2011, 16:33:26

blackbird71

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I honestly don't know the actual reasons. Because Turbo runs through Opera's servers as a browsing proxy, that puts a "man in the middle". There could be technical issues in rendering animations through such a proxy arrangement (gifs don't get compressed either) or the Flash issue could relate to a legal non-Opera patent constraint having to do with non-licensed playback of videos first requiring a user to click a command (which he can't directly do if the 'user' accessing the website is actually Turbo's in-the-middle server). I do know that many anonymizing proxies also won't render animations or videos.

Since I don't (and because of DSL, can't) use Turbo, I can't explore these things directly. There is a 2009 entry regarding Turbo usage at http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/opera-turbo-labs-release which states:

Flash and animated GIFs won't be compressed. In fact, Flash content won't be downloaded at all initially. Right now you will just be presented with a white box saying "plug-in content" (there will probably be a image there later on). But if you click that white space, the Flash content will be downloaded and will play right away.

If this seems to apply to what you see when Flash content exists on a page, have you tried clicking on the box described to see if it downloads and plays directly? Sorry for not knowing more about this...
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10. December 2011, 20:02:56

sibelius

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Thanks blackbird71, yes I tried clicking where the video should be and presents a black square, no box or symbol.
I have ADSL 1 meg, but sometimes it is slow and Opera alerts about slow speed, so I enabled Turbo. Pages load faster but Flash is a problem. Too bad because Turbo would be a good feature.

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11. December 2011, 10:20:37

Dakerer53

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This is probably of your slow connection. Opera turbo only fastens up surfing and not downloading [playing flash videos comes in downloading category up ]

11. December 2011, 14:54:09

sibelius

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Originally posted by Dakerer53:

This is probably of your slow connection. Opera turbo only fastens up surfing and not downloading [playing flash videos comes in downloading category up ]



Thanks, but if I turn Turbo off I can load the video so it does not make sense. there must be something else.

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