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It is, indeed, choppy on that site (and several others).
I suppose, though, that this topic is not for the wishlist.
I suppose, though, that this topic is not for the wishlist.
А crappy old PC running XP Pro SP3 and Opera 11.64 (1403) + 12.02 (1578) + 12.16 (1860) (plus a few other builds)
Loyal Opera user saying NO to Opera 15.
Opera Mobile 16 & Opera Mobile 16 beta & Opera Mobile 12.1 & Opera Mini 7.5 on Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Opera Mobile 12 & Opera Mini 7 on Nokia E51
Loyal Opera user saying NO to Opera 15.
Opera Mobile 16 & Opera Mobile 16 beta & Opera Mobile 12.1 & Opera Mini 7.5 on Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Opera Mobile 12 & Opera Mini 7 on Nokia E51
12. December 2011, 23:48:29 (edited)
+1
Scrolling is slow on Netflix's Watch Instantly site, as well.....and zooming in on any page gives a nearly unusable experience (see here: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/11/21/improving-the-setup-experience.aspx ).
Basic features like smooth scrolling are a requirement for Opera. I feel like I'm using a browser from the 90's!
~Ibrahim~
Scrolling is slow on Netflix's Watch Instantly site, as well.....and zooming in on any page gives a nearly unusable experience (see here: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/11/21/improving-the-setup-experience.aspx ).
Basic features like smooth scrolling are a requirement for Opera. I feel like I'm using a browser from the 90's!
~Ibrahim~
I was about to write about this.
For me the problem is [smooth] scrolling with zoom 110% or more.
100% is quite smooth all over, but I keep it 150% constantly. aids.
For me a prime example is youtube front page with a moderate list of
videos from subscribed channels. Again 100% zoom fine (not perfect), 110%+ aids.
V. 12.0 (next)
For me the problem is [smooth] scrolling with zoom 110% or more.
100% is quite smooth all over, but I keep it 150% constantly. aids.
For me a prime example is youtube front page with a moderate list of
videos from subscribed channels. Again 100% zoom fine (not perfect), 110%+ aids.
V. 12.0 (next)
Originally posted by jaywin:
+1
Maybe there will be better performance when HWA in Opera 12 arrives.
I hope! Firefox and IE work far better on "zoomed" in pages. And you might think only the elderly need the zoom features, but if you have a high-resolution display, just putting Windows on a high DPI does not cut it. You need to zoom in onto a page to ready basically any text from a few feet away.
When's that being released, anyways? I can't find a release date..not to compare Opera to Firefox again, but Firefox has a clear release cycle schedule......
~Ibrahim~
Originally posted by s33s:
opera next as it is now does not fix the problem at all. so why would a release date matter.
Oh! Ugh, well, that's news to me.
Seriously? Every day I find more reasons to go back to Firefox and fewer to stay with Opera...
~Ibrahim~
I notice that sites with a fixed header (such that doesn't move when you scroll) - Facebook, 9GAG and some others - are jerky to scroll and cause high CPU usage - sure I'm using an old PC (in my sig), but I still think that scrolling a page shouldn't be something resource-demanding.
I think that actually the regularity I notice is that any element with position: fixed; CSS is causing that, for example the 'Take Our Survey' button on Alexa.
This is from my experience with 11.52 final, but it's about the same with 11.60 (1185) and 12.00 (1191).
I think that actually the regularity I notice is that any element with position: fixed; CSS is causing that, for example the 'Take Our Survey' button on Alexa.
This is from my experience with 11.52 final, but it's about the same with 11.60 (1185) and 12.00 (1191).
А crappy old PC running XP Pro SP3 and Opera 11.64 (1403) + 12.02 (1578) + 12.16 (1860) (plus a few other builds)
Loyal Opera user saying NO to Opera 15.
Opera Mobile 16 & Opera Mobile 16 beta & Opera Mobile 12.1 & Opera Mini 7.5 on Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Opera Mobile 12 & Opera Mini 7 on Nokia E51
Loyal Opera user saying NO to Opera 15.
Opera Mobile 16 & Opera Mobile 16 beta & Opera Mobile 12.1 & Opera Mini 7.5 on Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Opera Mobile 12 & Opera Mini 7 on Nokia E51
23. December 2011, 20:02:59 (edited)
The main problem is when this bug is triggered it's done, finished. Opera only works great on clean install and then for some reason it falls apart with slow sticky scrolling, just couple sites actually show a problem, elsewhere is about the same i guess, just a little bit slower and not noticeable that much. If you got My Opera blog with main theme it's also shows there (flashing background)...
So far i have made a list, that can be used if scrolling is working properly or not and can reduce performance by taking memory and CPU and that is actively making slowdown:
http://trine2.com/site/ bad scrolling
http://www.html5canvastutorials.com/labs/html5-canvas-ultimate-flash-killer/ very slow
"Flying rocket" slowdown from Peacekeeper v1
If it's something with settings than it can be repeated and resolved, maybe?
So far i have made a list, that can be used if scrolling is working properly or not and can reduce performance by taking memory and CPU and that is actively making slowdown:
http://trine2.com/site/ bad scrolling
http://www.html5canvastutorials.com/labs/html5-canvas-ultimate-flash-killer/ very slow
"Flying rocket" slowdown from Peacekeeper v1
If it's something with settings than it can be repeated and resolved, maybe?
Originally posted by kapsi:
Someone from Opera said they're working on it.
Not that I don't trust you, but how did you figure that? Would you mind posting their exact response?
Is this the message you are talking about?
" 'hmmm....can you see if gmail is sluggish in Opera compared to other browsers when u try to check/tick many messages? thanks.'
We know about the Gmail slowness - Opera does too much work when updating layouts with position:fixed elements. We are working on it, but don't expect a fix in 11.61 as it's not a simple bugfix, rather a redesign of some code."
- Ola P. Kleiven, Project Manager Core, Opera
This message doesn't mention scrolling. Do you know that position:fixed elements cause slow scrolling on cNET, Netflix, or the Building Windows blog or in sites that are zoomed in?
I'm sorry, but I don't understand why this fix is related to slow/jerky scrolling.
~Ibrahim~
" 'hmmm....can you see if gmail is sluggish in Opera compared to other browsers when u try to check/tick many messages? thanks.'
We know about the Gmail slowness - Opera does too much work when updating layouts with position:fixed elements. We are working on it, but don't expect a fix in 11.61 as it's not a simple bugfix, rather a redesign of some code."
- Ola P. Kleiven, Project Manager Core, Opera
This message doesn't mention scrolling. Do you know that position:fixed elements cause slow scrolling on cNET, Netflix, or the Building Windows blog or in sites that are zoomed in?
I'm sorry, but I don't understand why this fix is related to slow/jerky scrolling.
~Ibrahim~
Originally posted by geocities:
Opera only works great on clean install and then for some reason it falls apart
Nothing new to me. If there was ever an issue where I didn't have to do a clean install and reconfigure from the ground up... A 1 year old pet bugs in core browser functionality are nothing new either. Choppy scrolling . . .
It'll make it easier for me to try to move to Firefox this month.