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11. December 2011, 10:52:05

hucker

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Autocorrect for spellchecker

As title. Nice in MS Word, absent in Opera :-(

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11. December 2011, 11:26:34

mmutee

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I don't understand, what do you mean by "Autocorrect for spellchecker as title"?

11. December 2011, 11:35:25

hucker

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When you type in this forum, or in an email, you can have Opera spellcheck for you - it underlines misspelt words in red.

But M$ Word will automatically correct without your intervention any common mistakes. So if you always mistype always as alwyas, you can tell it to automatically correct that mistake in the future, simply by right clicking the word and choosing autocorrect, always.

It saves a lot of time for clumsy typers such as myself.
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11. December 2011, 11:40:14

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Originally posted by hucker:

It saves a lot of time for clumsy typers such as myself


Its actually more important than spell-check for native English speakers who are not weak in spelling. Typos are extremely common.

Also very common, but not possible to catch without a grammar checker are substitutions of there for their or they're; your for you're, etc.
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11. December 2011, 12:05:12

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I know how to use their and they're and there, but I always without fail type form instead of from. My right hand must be fractionally faster than my left. However that would also require a grammar checker. I don't think anyone has made an autocorrect grammar checker, I'll settle for the autocorrect spellchecker.
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11. December 2011, 12:23:51

Opera's dictionary (more specifically Hunspell's dictionary) is not very good. If I type un-install, then it is underlined by red and Opera suggests typing UN-install; while everybody knows that un-install is a valid word.

But let's see what's the result - Microsoft is already planning this feature for Internet Explorer 10-

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/11/08/typing-with-speed-and-accuracy-in-ie10.aspx

But many of the technical websites say that Auto-correct did not work for them; that's why I say 'planning'.
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11. December 2011, 12:28:11

hucker

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I don't care if the dictionary Opera uses is rubbish. I simply add words to it that aren't in there. Doesn't take long to click "add word" on a red line.

How can people say autocorrect doesn't work for them? Word only does it for words that you have told it to. It's an option - instead of saying correct the word, say autocorrect the word.

And I type uninstall :-) I was once told by a Professor (not of English though, but he was a bit of a snob) that it should be deinstall. I laughed and the conversation terminated.

How about Opera beats IE to it with the autocorrect? Come on guys, the engine is there already, no?
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11. December 2011, 12:30:10

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Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

un-install


There should be no hyphen in uninstall, but neither spellings are flagged as errors here.
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11. December 2011, 12:37:58

hucker

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How can your dictionary be different to his?
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11. December 2011, 12:49:24

Originally posted by Pesala:

There should be no hyphen in uninstall, but neither spellings are flagged as errors here.


Strange, they are here - I never modified any dictionary preferences; by the way it's English (US) dictionary here. Writing a hyphen in between un and install might not be common but it is valid (I do study English).

Originally posted by hucker:

that it should be deinstall. I laughed and the conversation terminated.


You did a good thing. There is no word such as 'deinstall' in WordWeb (dictionary software) and also in my Oxford Mini pocket dictionary.

Originally posted by hucker:

How can people say autocorrect doesn't work for them?


The technical blogs and website tested Internet Explorer 10 Platform Preview 3 on Windows 8 developer Preview against the IE Testdrive page by Microsoft and could not get it to work. They didn't test Microsoft Word's auto-correct and also I am not talking about Microsoft Word's auto-correct here.

Originally posted by hucker:

Come on guys, the engine is there already, no?


That's what I say; let's wait and watch the feedback on Internet Explorer 10's Auto-correct feature and if it is impressive; it won't take a long time to implement this.
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11. December 2011, 12:56:53

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Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

Strange, they are here - I never modified any dictionary preferences; by the way it's English (US) dictionary here. Writing a hyphen in between un and install might not be common but it is valid (I do study English).



Maybe the English dictionary in various countries is different. The Americans can't spell flavour for a start :-P

Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

You did a good thing. There is no word such as 'deinstall' in WordWeb (dictionary software) and also in my Oxford Mini pocket dictionary.



I assumed he was technically correct - everything else is de, but when computers were invented, someone got it wrong.

Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

That's what I say; let's wait and watch the feedback on Internet Explorer 10's Auto-correct feature and if it is impressive; it won't take a long time to implement this.



Opera beating IE to it would be a good advertising point, no?
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11. December 2011, 13:10:52

Originally posted by hucker:

Opera beating IE to it would be a good advertising point, no?


It would be but that's impossible. IE 10 would be released in either May or June 2012. Opera 12.00 would be hardly ready by March 2012. This feature is definitely not making it into Opera 12.00, so no chance Opera beating IE to Auto-correct.
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11. December 2011, 13:43:09

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Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

I have 2 systems - Windows 7 SP1 x86 Ultimate edition and Windows XP Service Pack 3 both running Opera 11.52 Stable



Ha! I have FOURTEEN systems, all running Windows 7 SP1 x64 Ultimate. Half are i5s, half are i7s, half have Radeon 6850 graphics, half have Radeon 5450 graphics. I don't need heating in this house.

Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

It would be but that's impossible. IE 10 would be released in either May or June 2012. Opera 12.00 would be hardly ready by March 2012. This feature is definitely not making it into Opera 12.00, so no chance Opera beating IE to Auto-correct.



Blast and botheration!
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11. December 2011, 13:58:19

Originally posted by hucker:

Ha! I have FOURTEEN systems, all running Windows 7 SP1 x64 Ultimate. Half are i5s, half are i7s, half have Radeon 6850 graphics, half have Radeon 5450 graphics. I don't need heating in this house.


Man, don't quote my forum signature. But yes my Windows 7 SP1 x86 Ultimate really has to do much work as it has an Intel Atom processor. The PC originally came with Windows 7 Starter, but I didn't like so I upgraded it to Ultimate.

Originally posted by hucker:

Blast and botheration!


What do you mean? confused
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11. December 2011, 14:02:19

hucker

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Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

Man, don't quote my forum signature. But yes my Windows 7 SP1 x86 Ultimate really has to do much work as it has an Intel Atom processor. The PC originally came with Windows 7 Starter, but I didn't like so I upgraded it to Ultimate.



What's wrong with quoting signatures? If you didn't want me to read it, why is it there?

Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

What do you mean?



It means "oh dear", but more so. It's a bit archaic.
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11. December 2011, 14:38:38

Originally posted by hucker:

What's wrong with quoting signatures? If you didn't want me to read it, why is it there?


It's not that I don't want you to read it. But what I mind is quoting my signature in the Forums - if you want to talk about it then leave a comment on my blog or I even have the shoutbox enabled for my blog.

PS. even the blog is underlined in red by Opera's spellchecker. yikes
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11. December 2011, 14:44:21

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Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

It's not that I don't want you to read it. But what I mind is quoting my signature in the Forums - if you want to talk about it then leave a comment on my blog or I even have the shoutbox enabled for my blog.



"That is illogical" -- Captain Spock.

Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

PS. even the blog is underlined in red by Opera's spellchecker.



Blog is ok here. I may have added the word at some point. It's no big hassle.
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12. December 2011, 08:48:54

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@topic without reading all the posts: -1, it always annoys me in word/outlook
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12. December 2011, 08:59:15

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How can something which you have to switch on possibly annoy you?
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12. December 2011, 09:00:36

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Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

You did a good thing. There is no word such as 'deinstall' in WordWeb (dictionary software) and also in my Oxford Mini pocket dictionary.

Deinstall (Oxford English Dictionary) and uninstall but not un-install Oddly, my UK dictionary does not flag uninstall, but the US dictionary does. I have added "uninstalled" to my user UK dictionary, but not "uninstall."

Originally posted by serious:

-1, it always annoys me in word/outlook

Hard to understand why anyone would be annoyed by autocorrect, unless it is badly programmed and corrects something like i.e. to I.e.
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12. December 2011, 09:12:16

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Originally posted by Pesala:

Deinstall (Oxford English Dictionary) and uninstall but not un-install Oddly, my UK dictionary does not flag uninstall, but the US dictionary does. I have added "uninstalled" to my user UK dictionary, but not "uninstall."



US and UK English is not the same language.

Originally posted by Pesala:

Hard to understand why anyone would be annoyed by autocorrect, unless it is badly programmed and corrects something like i.e. to I.e.



I just write ie. And add it to the dictionary.
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12. December 2011, 10:51:53

Pesala

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Originally posted by hucker:

I just write ie. And add it to the dictionary.


I think you misunderstood. This is about autocorrect. If "i" is set to autocorrect to "I" then if the code is badly written, "i.e." will be wrongly corrected to "I.e."
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12. December 2011, 12:40:55

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Originally posted by Pesala:

unless it is badly programmed

... which seems to be the default for autocorrect solutions wink. Seriously, I often write technical stuff and in different languages, so I always have the problems (in outlook, apart from that I try to avoid office):
1) autocorrect words to german although I write english, until the auto-language-recognition kicks in
2) caps correction (eg. much stuff starts with two upper-case letters - which always gets auto-corrected until turned off - which I in turn am too lazy to do - because searching through office menus sucks and does so even harder since they introduced the ribbons)

The only remotely useful part of autocorrect for me is the replacement of quotes with the typographically correct symbols, and even that is disturbing most of the time for me when formatting I/O for the documentation.
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12. December 2011, 13:49:40

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Originally posted by hucker:

How can something which you have to switch on possibly annoy you?


You have to switch it off in Microsoft Word, OpenOffice.org, LibreOffice and tons of other word processors. I tend to turn off almost all automatic stuff since otherwise I just keep pressing Ctrl+Z constantly.
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12. December 2011, 14:29:15

hucker

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Originally posted by Pesala:

I think you misunderstood. This is about autocorrect. If "i" is set to autocorrect to "I" then if the code is badly written, "i.e." will be wrongly corrected to "I.e."



I don't think I'd ever write something with dots in the middle of it :-)

Originally posted by serious:

Seriously, I often write technical stuff and in different languages, so I always have the problems (in outlook, apart from that I try to avoid office):



Is it not possible to just disable it while you write technical stuff? If you're putting in formulas and code numbers for parts etc, you really can't use any kind of spelling system.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

You have to switch it off in Microsoft Word, OpenOffice.org, LibreOffice and tons of other word processors.



Then Opera should not follow their lead! Or simply the first time you make a mistake, ask if you would like to use autocorrect.
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