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11. December 2011, 14:31:50

AgentSuave

Posts: 17

Font smoothing

Font smoothness like Safari has, it makes reading so more enjoyable, and it can't be that hard to achieve, even Safari for Windows has it.


Pedro

11. December 2011, 14:50:12

Would you mind giving this extension a try?
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11. December 2011, 15:24:15

StratCasterJC07

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There's an extension called Mac OSX Font Rendering

11. December 2011, 15:59:06

Originally posted by StratCasterJC07:

There's an extension called Mac OSX Font Rendering


If you mind reading, then you would have noticed that I also linked to the 'Mac OSX Font Rendering' extension.
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11. December 2011, 16:25:42

AgentSuave

Posts: 17

Hi both,
I already know that extension, but I don't like it for several reasons, namely:
a) it doesn't work in every site /every site's block of text
b) When it works, it's barely noticeable (even in the extension page screenshot)
c) The smooth effect is not that great, the text looks like painted letters tainting a very thin sheet of paper
d) No options to tune the effect

But thanks anyway smile
The ideal would be to have an option for this embedded in Opera, so no resources wasted on an extension, and being made by Opera it surely would look much better. I mean, Opera already looks like a browser well designed by Apple smile , so why not?


P.S. I'm using Opera 11.60

11. December 2011, 21:32:14

s33s

Posts: 55

Opera already looks like a browser well designed by Apple


really? this is your best argument for taking over the OS's job of font rendering? and I say this as someone who switched to linux mostly because windows's horrible font rendering.

there's a software can do OSX style rendering on windows called mactype, although most pages you'll find about it will be in Chinese.

11. December 2011, 22:53:45

AgentSuave

Posts: 17

Yes, really. Most of my and almost everyone's computer reading is made in the browser, so being it OS job or browser job, is almost the same. So what's the big deal? If the browser already has torrent, mail and even IRC clients, why not a dedicated font rendering?

And yes, I find resemblances in both company's designing policys, more on the little things like animations when using mouse gestures, the simplicity of tab grouping, etc, etc

I'll try that mactype later. I used gdi++ and it worked great, but on some shadowed fonts it renders them awfully, specially in Chrome.

12. December 2011, 08:55:28

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-1, browser should use the same font settings as the rest of the OS (the whole point of having OS font settings is to have consistent font rendering, after all).
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13. December 2011, 00:26:06

AgentSuave

Posts: 17

Originally posted by serious:

-1, browser should use the same font settings as the rest of the OS (the whole point of having OS font settings is to have consistent font rendering, after all).



Ideally, yes, but then Microsoft had to have a better font smooth engine than the current one.

13. December 2011, 07:35:17

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Maybe you just need to run the cleartype configuration utility?
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13. December 2011, 13:30:57

AgentSuave

Posts: 17

If you mean the native Windows Font edge smoothing, it's almost worthless, now that I have seen what Safari and GDI++ are capable of (I'm still using windows XP by the way). Unfortunately gdi++ jaggs some fonts to the point of absurdity.

Still trying to get Mactype that s33s talked about, but the links I get are always dead.

13. December 2011, 20:56:10

s33s

Posts: 55

http://code.google.com/p/gdipp/
a fork of gdi++, I think mactype is a fork as well, both are being developed by Chinese right now, and they seem to hang out at the same forum as well, so the documents are mostly in Chinese.
font rendering on windows is hopeless, at least before 8 where directwrite most likely replaces gdi to get half decent result.

14. December 2011, 15:48:20

AgentSuave

Posts: 17

GDIpp didn't work well for me, and Mactype (that link is the one that doesn't work, I managed to download the program with emule) doesn't work with Opera or Chrome, only Firefox.
And the language being chinese AKA lots of 'squares' on the UI doesn't help either.

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