Opera 8.5 beta for Windows Mobile, Pocket PC is released - provide feedback in this thread

Opera 8.5 beta for Windows Mobile, Pocket PC is released - provide feedback in this thread

Opera 8.5 beta version for Windows Mobile, Pocket PC is available!

Please provide feedback in this thread. (If you find bugs, you can of course report them to our bug database)

The version is available for both WM 2003 and WM 5.0.

The beta build has a 45 days trial period.

Features:

- zoom
- downloadmanager
- automatic url entry
- address bar
- 4-way navigation
- pop-up handler
- multiple windows

To download, see product pages: http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/winmobileppc/

Installation instructions:

- The CAB installer package can either be downloaded directly to the Pocket PC, or downloaded using your desktop computer, and transferred to the Pocket PC using your ActiveSync software.
- Use Start, File Explorer on the Pocket PC to locate and run the installer
package.
- Follow any instructions to complete the install
- You can now run Opera using Start, Programs, Opera Browser.

Happy surfing!

Looking forward to hear your opinions.


Anne-Hilde

I have installed Opera 8.5 Beta on my i-mate Jasjar. Overall a good browser with good speed and probably the best page rendering.

I would however like to see the following included:

1) Should have a user configurable user-agent so that we are not forced to mobile versions of websites. I would like to go the full hotmail site rather than the mobile version and so is true for many more sites.

2) I would like Opera to have the ability to handle file attachments when writing e-mails on web based e-mail sites such as Gmail or Hotmail

3) I would like Opera to support appropriate plug-ins so that it can handle sites with flash items

One problem that I am facing is that once I have used opera and even fully closed it from the list of running items some programs refuse to start. In my case I cannot use Planmaker and Netfront 3.3 after I have closed Opera and have to do a soft reset for my jsasjar. My opera is installed to the storage card so is planmaker and netfront.

Kind Regards

just to let you know, opera has installed and runs fine on my WM5 t-mobile MDA Compact II... will contine to test.

Originally posted by Casius:

I found what is causing the problem with page text being rendered with strange characters.

I have several TTF fonts installed in \Windows\Fonts directory. Opera picks up one of them and uses it to display text in URL address field and in rendered pages. When I remove all the fonts from that directory and soft reset my device, then Opera users proper font and all works fine. When I add fonts back to \Windows\Fonts directory and soft reset my device, Opera picks one of the fonts placed there.
[...]

I am having what looks like a similar issue. When trying to post in a forum, the text that I write appears like strange characters, like if you were using Windings to write a message. I'll try removing the fonts that I have (which are only the ones that MS Reader 2.4.1 installs).

I can confirm that Opera was using bkdings.ttf when writing post in several forums, so no way to post! bkdings was the first font available.

i try Opera on my HP iPAQ2210 device with WM2003.
Strange6 but on install it says Opera doenst support this OS and may not run on my device. I dont see any compatibility issues description on your site.

Anyway it runs, but have many truobles yet.
First of all - screen drag must be.
Next - multiple window interface must be reworked. It is very uncomfortable now. Either tabs or pop-up menu with list of open windows needed. Menu item Open in background.

And i have strange bug: if a press any links on page before page completly loaded, the connection totally freeze and i need to reconnect.
So, it is good Opera for PPC exists now, but it not really useable now, PIE+MultiIE for is much more better

Originally posted by PumpkinNN:

And i have strange bug: if a press any links on page before page completly loaded, the connection totally freeze and i need to reconnect.
So, it is good Opera for PPC exists now, but it not really useable now, PIE+MultiIE for is much more better

I think I have a similar problem. I'm not sure, if it is caused by the same reason, but after surfing a while it reaches a point, where it cannot connect to the proxy anymore. At least that is what the message states (Could not connect to proxy, permission denied). The strange thing is, that from that point on, the PIE is also unable to connect. I use ActiveSync 3.8 for connecting to the internet. This problem is solved by replugging the device in the docking station. (its a Qtek 9090 with WM2003SE).

Is it possible to save that the browser not been set to "Fit to screen" in Opera 8.5b for WM5.0?
If i unklick the "Fit to screen" in display settings it dont be saved if i restart the program.

Originally posted by liquiid:

Is it possible to save that the browser not been set to "Fit to screen" in Opera 8.5b for WM5.0?
If i unklick the "Fit to screen" in display settings it dont be saved if i restart the program.

This is not possible. Opera will always start in "fit to screen mode". This is the default rendering mode.

Anne-Hilde

Originally posted by sahanhik:

3. help says ctrl+q quits opera, which key is mapped to emulate ctrl
or how to configure other key

1. Bring up the SIP keyboard
2. Click Ctl so that it stays highlghted
3. click Q

Since nobody answerered, let me repeat my question:

How do I get out of full screen mode?

Cheers,

Casius

Originally posted by Casius:

How do I get out of full screen mode?

Tap and hold the stylus anywhere on the website. This should bring up a context menu that allows you to turn off fullscreen mode.

Originally posted by spacechild:

Originally posted by spacechild:

Tap and hold the stylus anywhere on the website. This should bring up a context menu that allows you to turn off fullscreen mode.

Thank you!

Casius

I am using the release for windows mobile on an x50v wm2003se. I had no problems installing the cab file on the sd card.

First observations:
Cons
I installed it on the sd card, but much of the program is in application data. Can this be moved to a storage card. 2.5m is alot to lose on a limited memory device.

No menu or guided access to changes that can be made in the .ini file.

SIPs function erratically. I use Calligrapher. I cannot fill in fields. I have to use the write anywhere feature, but the letters often disappear. Other keyboards sometimes do not respond. Cannot reliably switch between input methods.

The few buttons that are visible are not intuitive located. could use more menu items and icons on bottome bar and more distinctive (in color) icons on top.

The absence of tabs or tab icons is a real miss. The multi windows is a great feature and it is buried in screen taps.

I agree with other comments about size of scroll bars and general graphic fine tuning that would make the package much more polished and representative of paid software.

Pros:
Full screen support and a more internet like experience, although some sites kick me to the mobile version, most load from the url that I have entered. (I assume that that hacks to use the scroll key and to change the name of your browser to IE6 will work with this as well)

Private Web based mail services that did not work in PIE are working for me.

After I found the font adjustment -- alls good on the viewing front.

Although not as snappy as many prior reviews made me think it would be, it is acceptably fast, given the graphic content that is uploaded. I have not tried the no graphics mode, but suspect that when in a metered situation, that may be a more viable mode.


All in all, I would really love to be able to use this browser, for now the program residing in main memory is the deal breaker.

I've test it, for left-to-right languages works fine but for right-to-lest languages like Hebrew and Arabic the words written that way: "Opera for ppc" displayed like "ppc for opera" or the letters inverted: "Opera" displayed like "arepO".

DELL AXIM X50V.

I haven't used it very much yet (and I don't know if I can keep using it if I can't move the program and the cache out to the memory card) but my feeling is that Opera 8.50 has the same shortcomings as its Symbian counterpart: a great rendering engine but lots of problems with user input.

From a functional point of view I think you must benchmark Opera with PocketIE and the MultiIE add-on that makes PocketIE much better for user input (and implements tabs).

The rendering engine is obviously much better in Opera but unfortunately that's only part of the picture.

Finally: please make the cache size configurable!

UA

A couple more things I noticed (WM2003, Samsung i730):

• When navigating http://my.opera.com/community/, it can take 2 or 3 seconds before one of the main menu links is followed (such as trying to go Home or to the Forums). During that time, Opera gives no indication that the link was clicked, and becomes exceptionally slow. Perhaps its just me, but a reset of my device didn't help any.
  
  
• When browsing in 'Fit to Screen' mode, and you follow a direct link to an image thats very large (about the size of a PC Screenshot), Opera will not attempt to scale the image. Instead, it will display a blank white screen. The image displays only when you switch off 'Fit to Screen' mode, but of course, its not scaled then. I can understand if Opera does not scale large images, as that probably would suck down the memory and CPU for a while. If that is the case, perhaps you can display a message that says the image can't be scaled due to it's size within the client area (not a popup dialog box, since then you have to click it before you can do anything else).
  
  
• Opera will completely halt (accept no user input, stop rendering the display) while it establishes a connection to the internet. Would be nice if it wouldn't do that, so you could change the link you picked earlier, or open a new window to prepare to goto another site. This is a very small problem though.
  

Okay, I hope my observations help the dev team out in some way.

Originally posted by FormerUtenteanonimo64:

Finally: please make the cache size configurable!

It seems that it is possible to change cache size in opera.ini file. Probably many other things can be configured in opera.ini file, but unfortunately I was unable to find any documentation that would explain all the options.

In any case, editing opera.ini file is not something an average user would want to do. All these settings and options should be accessible under Settings window and configurable by the user. I sincerely hope that this approach will be incorporated in a future beta release.

Right now I find these to be the biggest problems with the current beta version:

• There needs to be a GUI way for users to fully control all settings, not be forced to hack undocumented ini file.
  
• Although multi-window approach is welcome, its current implementation (separate application windows) is extremely cumbersome. Tabbed windows would be much more user friendly.
  
• There has to be an option to install Opera to storage cards, as well as to move \Application\Data\Opera directory to a storage card. RAM space (and ROM space in case of Windows Mobile 2005) is at premium and vast majority of users will be unwilling to sacrifice 5 MB for application and then another 2 MB for cache. Allowing users to place cache on CF or SD storage will make it somewhat slower than leaving it in RAM, but not that much slower than installing it in ROM of Windows Mobile 2005 system).
  
• The only way for me to connect to Internet from the office is by connecting my PPC to my notebook via USB and ActiveSync. PIE detects the settings and automatically chooses Work connection and uses proxy. Opera simply reports that no server was found (i.e. it does not use proxy server specified in Windows Mobile connections settings). I found undocumented way of adding proxy settings to opera.ini file in another post here. Only after manually editing ini file was I able to connect via proxy. This is not something average user will know or want to do. Therefore, we really need a GUI way to specify proxy server and its settings within Opera application.
  
• There should be an option to have Opera automatically empty cache on program exit. Right now several taps are necessary to delete contents of chache folder.
  
• There needs to be a way to optionally make Opera identify itself to web sites as MSIE 6, so that we can get normal ("fully grown") versions of these sites, not the simplified mobile versions.
  

I also find this early build quite unstable when rendering various web sites. I already mentioned persistent problem with cnn.com site in my earlier post. Here I want to add that I had Opera crash several times while downloading page contents. These were various sites and pages, but it seems that when Opera finds something in page code it does not like, it simply crashes (error handling problem?).

There is also problem rendering map applet in Local section of Google web site. I was able to have Opera partially load and display the map only once, then the program crashed. Subsequent attempts to display these maps just gave me a partial grey window and no vertical scroll bar to move the page up. Very odd...

Cheers,

Casius
HP iPaq hx4700 with Windows Mobile 2003SE

I observed a problem with the way Opera renders articles published on the web site of International Herald Tribune. Take for example this article:

Combined attacks kill at least 23 in Baghdad street

Note that its first page consists of three columns of text. Opera cuts the third column vertically in half and only the left half of that column is displayed. Tappling on "Next Page" button underneath the article displays the next - foruth - column of article text, so there is no way to read the third column.

Cheers,

Casius
HP iPaq hx4700 with Windows Mobile 2003SE

First impressions are slightly disappointing (probably because I had high expectations).

One of Opera's best features, tabbed browsing, is missing. It will cut down the overall viewing area, but not by much. You can't have Opera without tabs!

Due to PPCs' limited memory, the cache location really needs to configurable (to point at the SD card, for example).

The courier font used in the address bar is both ugly and wastes space.

Again, due to limited memory, an Exit menu item is needed.

It's not obvious when links are activated when tapped.

However, the rendering is great - much better than PIE or Minimo...

Well impressed. Works fine on my Navman PIN 570 with Windows Mobile 2003.Couldnt install it at first until I sussed out that I had to load the zipped file onto the pda and then unzip and install it.
What happens after 45 days? is it available to buy, is it free ??
Cheers
Steve

Here's my two cents. Opera isn't opening Journal Bar pages. http://www.omegaone.com/journalbar/default.htm
For now I just copy the filename from the address bar and paste it into PIE. I won't bother with my other problems since I seem to be having the same issues as everyone else.

HW: Dell Axim X50v


Opera authors: Great stuff! I'm glad that you're FINALLY making your great software available to the PPC community! Keep up the good work and ignore the naysayers!

Complainers (from other sites not here!): Remember this is a BETA edition! If you don't like it, use something else. I'm sure you'll be back once Opera is complete!

When I install the WM5 on a Windows Mobile 5 phone, and I launch it, nothing happens. Is this expected? Does this only run on Pocket PCs?

I can't seem to save an image off of a web page. I assume I go to "Show Downloads". When I do so I get nothing. Help...

Opera appears to have problems switching from full screen mode to landscape. On my Ipaq hx2795 the scrollbars seem to stay in full screen mode (causing the scroll down button and the progess bar to be hidden by the windows menu buttons).

Steps to reproduce:
-Start Opera
-Switch to full screen mode
-Switch back to normal mode
-Switch to Landscape view

It looks like visiting a new page will bring back the progress bar and scroll bars though.

Also, thanks so much for bringing this to WM5. I've been waiting just for this. Using Opera on PC had me too pampered, and IE just doesn't cut it on my ipaq.

Edit: Also, for those looking for exit buttons, a solution is to use SPB's Pocket Plus (http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/pocketplus/?en). It's 25 bucks, but can provide all programs with an exit (as opposed to just minimize) button. It has numerous other helpful features besides. Just my two cents.

I think magic button does the same thing too (free)
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx

" Nice option would be an import of bookmarks ;-) "

Just copy your opera desktop opera6.adr(it's in the user profile folder) to the "/application data/opera" folder on your pocket pc and start Opera Mobile.

Skins are also compatible, only a few changes are required in the skin's .ini file, I guess we have to assign some image to the topbar.

I am posting this through Opera Mobile so forgive me if it's already been said (the program's pretty sluggish at this beta state so I can't be bothered to read through 120+ messages):

Please provide us with an option to choose between 4-way navigation and Opera Mini's navigation (up / down jumps between links, left / right serve as page up / down).

Also, I've noticed that even after Opera Mobile is done loading a long page such as this thread, it remains sluggish for up to a minute. It's not loading anything, but it's clearly doing something because doing anything takes easily 10 seconds per action. After a while things return to normal. It's not a memory issue as I have 10 / 10 free on my device.

Thank you.

Dell Axim X50v with WM2003SE latest English ROM.
Running native VGA screen.
Run the autosurf website and the Opera close by itself.
Tested few and the result is the same.

Fujitsu Siemes PocketLoox 720 (VGA) WindowsMobile 2003SE
There are some inconvenience that make it hard to work with Opera:
1) No browse dialog or somithing like it to open html files from
the local storage (CF,SD etc)
2) Menu items nests to deep
It would be more comfortable to get quick access to the menu items
by one click. For example this may be solved in the followng way:
set menu items in the bottom bar or give opportunity to place
menu items as buttons on the bar
3) Fonts are to small when exploring web pages
in comparison with Pocket Interenet Explorer
4) Impossible to select codepage

I'm having the same issues as Casius, on the same device (ipaq 4700 w/ WM2003SE) however, my installation is to the main memory rather than a storage card.

Eventually ALL websites cause Opera to crash (Close and go to Today screen) but some definitely faster than others. PocketPCAddict.com causes the 4 click crash for sure, even with images turned off. Some will take a few more clicks, but eventually it crashes, no matter which site I go to.

Sorry for my English, i'm from Russia...
Thanks for Opera, it's right the Best Internet Experience. My regards!
I wish to tell my wishes:

- can you add "Screen-Drag" option, when movement of page is made without scrollbars.
- very much doesn't suffice "save target as", "save image" and "show image" on long-tap at page\link\image
- i hope that the "download manager" will be similar like Opera for Windows. i.e there will be options of a choice of a dirrectory for saving file, and information about downloaded file (size, speed, dir etc).
- the "upload button" is not work correctly. At all does not work.
- Having edited the "opera.ini" i'm has chosen standard_skin, but it is displayed incorrectly (top bar under button shows some graphic-artefacts instead of background image.
- multi-window navigation it's rather inconvenient. I hope you will make tabs below, or at the top of the screen =)
- It would be desirable to see more options in the browser settings.

HW: iPAQ 2410 wm2003se

Thank you.

Thanks for the opportunity to test this software... I am using this on Windows Mobile 5.0 (HTC Universal and HTC Apache). In both cases the browser will freeze after a while if I switch to another program. Even using the Start | Settings | System | Memory | Running Programs I can't close it and I have to soft reset the devices.

Another problem is whe filling forms. on VGA devices (HTC Universal) some fields in a web form do not show completly their contents on the screen.

Oh, I decided to write my own wishlist here...
1. Tabs. I thought that "multi-window" means "tabs"... until this beta-release. Tabs is a "must have" fo Opera.
2. There should be more settings. Proxy and other things.
3. In context menu, there should be, at least, "Show image". I use GPRS, so loading of all pictures on the page is costly. A "Save image" option would be cool.
4. I need a "Save page" option. Opera should be able to save a web page as HTML-file with and w/out cached images and as a text file.
5. Default icons aren't looking good on a VGA screen.
6. AvantGarde font is looking great in Opera, but it isn't convenient to use it in addressbar.
7. Native scrollbars would be a good improvement.
8. Ctrl + X/C/V doesn't work.

A little bug: an editable text field of quick reply on this site is scrolling left and right. It is difficult to write and edit long texts here.

Despite of all cons, this Opera IS great. It's the only browser to show IPB forums' pages correctly. I hope that release won't have any drawbacks.

Hi

Some users have asked how they can set default browser back to IE manually.
If you don't want to full reset the device, you can try a shareware registry editor for Pocket PC, such as http://www.snapfiles.com/get/pocketpc/phmregistry.html


Opera changes the following registry keys/values:

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\htmlfile\DefaultIcon]
(Default) iexplore.exe,-1003

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\htmlfile\Shell\Open\Command]
(Default) iexplore.exe file: %1

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\xhtmlfile\DefaultIcon]
(Default) iexplore.exe,-1003

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\xhtmlfile\Shell\Open\Command]
(Default) iexplore.exe file: %1

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\gifimage\DefaultIcon]
(Default) iexplore.exe,-1003

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\gifimage\Shell\Open\Command]
(Default) iexplore.exe file: %1

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\icoimage\DefaultIcon]
(Default) iexplore.exe,-1003

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\icoimage\Shell\Open\Command]
(Default) iexplore.exe file: %1

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\http\DefaultIcon]
(Default) iexplore.exe,-1003

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\http\Shell\Open\Command]
(Default) iexplore.exe %1

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\https\DefaultIcon]
(Default) iexplore.exe,-1003

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\https\Shell\Open\Command]
(Default) iexplore.exe %1

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ftp\DefaultIcon]
(Default) iexplore.exe,-1003

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ftp\Shell\Open\Command]
(Default) iexplore.exe %1

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\file\DefaultIcon]
(Default) iexplore.exe,-1003

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\file\Shell\Open\Command]
(Default) iexplore.exe %1
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This could be added as part of a FAQ, but as I couldn't figure out where to place the FAQ, I'm posting it here for now.

I'm sorry that we haven't had much time to post replies the last two days, but you can be sure that we are reading the forums whenever we can and listening to your opinions and thoughts. Developers and QA are all informed.

Anne-Hilde

I am running Opera 8.50 for Windows Mobile BETA(1616) on Audiovox PPC6600. It works great expect for all Greek characters(ΘµλІμΔ)in the address bar. Any suggestions to fix this?

I removed Opera from my Windows Mobile 2003, and discovered that clicking on .htm and .html files dumps me into a blank File Explorer window. After performing the manual registry edits to restore PIE to the default browser according to the post above the behavior is the same - blank File Explorer window, and no PIE. Is there something else that needs to be changed?

apparently opera can't start gmail in the standard full javascript mode but only in the mobile or html degraded mode ...
(see also my post here : http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=120589 )
it would be very nice to have it start in the standard javascript mode as it has very useful features like address auto-completion, etc ...
any tip to have it started in javascript mode would be greatly appreciated, thanks !!

I used Cabintl to install opera onto my storage rom drive on my Axim X30i. Installed without any problem. At work I need to use VPN to connect over wireless and every time I open Opera it seems to drop the VPN connection for some reason. When I get home I'll test it on a standard wireless network and see how it actually works. (All I get now is - "Must use VPN for access" page!)

I've been waiting for many months for this Opera browser! It's beautiful to look at on my Dell x50v PDA (PPC 2003, 2nd ed.) ...and thus far it's working extremely well. A comment and a question:
1) I installed the CAB to my storage card, hoping the browser would install on the card. It didn't, instead installing in the main memory (a memory hog at 4.7mb). I cut the file from the main memory's Programs file, repasted it onto my SD storage card, pasted an alias of the Opera browser icon in the main memory Windows startup file...and it works perfectly.
2) The browser is not finding the bookmarks file I have on my PDA for my other browsers (I have both IE and Netfront browsers) and I can't locate the bookmarks folder (if there is one) for Opera. That means I may need to re-find every bookmark and re-paste it to the Opera browser. Is there a way to do this?

well, it seems, my device hp ipaq hx2750 isn't the best device for the browser, a full vga display instead of a quarter of vga. the PIE column mode could be of use, too, further developed sso that you can pick up text from the tpage that has beet fit to screen, a kind of magnifying class that I've seen oon some electronic versions of newspapers.It's clumsy to change from tthe full screen mode just to get into tthe menu(the context menu doesn't ooffer all the usefull options,e.g. tthe virtual keyboard of the windows,ddidn't find the keyboard of the bbrowser,is there one?).Then one mmystical thing, a certain page kills tthe browser totally, it just vanishes, II checked the programs in memory. PIE has done the same with many pages, so tthe problem possibly isn't specific to opera at all.

Running Opera 8.5 for Windows Mobile BETA (1616) displays all Greek characters in address bar and some WEB page radio buttons. How can I fix this?

I downloaded the Opera for Windows Mobile 5 and after unzipping the folder none of the files look correct. I cant identify any of them... no cab file ... Under file type they all say file007, etc.. I am using the new Treo700w.

Anyone know why this is happening?

Scott

Originally posted by ahv:

Hi

Some users have asked how they can set default browser back to IE manually.
If you don't want to full reset the device, you can try a shareware registry editor for Pocket PC, such as http://www.snapfiles.com/get/pocketpc/phmregistry.html


I think a good thing for everyone to do is make a make a full backup BEFORE installing Opera.

I learned a HARD [reset] lesson with WM5.

Now I always backup before trying new software and do weekly backups.

Anyway of accessing emails through Opera like the desktop version please??.
Thanks
Steve

Opera on dell x50v wm20003se.

Experiencing many of the same issues. I cannot access Hotmail, although it sends me to the mobile site. It just stays in a loop

I have moved the program to a storage card, so I am assuming some of my font issues are associated with that move, but some dialog boxes show squares. also even in the beta stage it would be nice to have the option to remember the setting for intdefault browser choice. espeecially since it is so difficult to get it back if you accidently hit yes.

Since themove to the storage card I have lost all my buttons, but the areas still work although they are very small and partially hidden on the screen.

switching between landscape mode and portrait does not always work. It seems to have hijacked the button that I have programmed to do this. If i exit opera while it is in Landscape it seems to remember that but cannot make the switch automatically when it is started up again.

It has spontaneously shut down, but I cannot replay an exact sequence of events to make it happen.

Hi Anne-Hilde!

Thanks a lot for a portable version of my beloved Opera web browser!
But after using the beta, I have some suggestions... I agree with other testers about the "exit" in the main menu. Also, I think that the cache folder & all Opera's data must be stored somewhere else, but not in the Internal Storage. The best decision of this problem is to give all the liberty of choice to the owner of PPC -- he can choose the better place for data by himself.
Also, I think that the toolbar isn't the best one. BTW, I'm using Fuji L00x 720 with RealVGA resolution, and the buttons look alright, but the bar is too big, IMHO. It must be in 3/4 of the size which it has now. And the number of elements on it must be bigger. And the last, the Bookmarks. The most loved thing in Opera, and the most needed. IMO there must be search. Like on the desktop. It would be amazing, and with these feature I won't need no any browser on my PoCkemon :-)...

Is there a way to refresh the page? OOOps, Just found it Navigate Tab of the Menu. Again, it would be nice if this were a button. Perhaps, even with menue and keyboard input, there could be an option to make a tool bar.

Has anyone had any success with hotmail?

Wow, great job on Opera 8.5! Works wonderfully. The cache can get large, but clearing the cache manually is a small price to pay for such a good program--thank you!

pda: dell axim x51, WM5.0

I have a Dell Axim x51v with WM2005 in spanish and Opera doesn't start.

I have tried suggested solutions (German and Italian Application Data folder renaming) and nothing worked.

However If I select in WM2005 - Configuration - Language - English (USA) and perform a soft reset, Opera starts. This works until I select my native language (Spanish).

I looked for in spanish forums and I'm not the only one, is there any solution for this profile (x51v and spanish WM2005)?

Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by sledbetter:

I cant identify any of them... no cab file ...

What you have downloaded IS the cab file! You download, copy to your device, open the file explorer and double-click on the file.