SPDY implementation ?

SPDY implementation ?

Hello
it would be nice to have SPDY support in the near future.

SPDY:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY
http://dev.chromium.org/spdy/
http://dev.chromium.org/spdy/spdy-whitepaper

example:
http://spdytest.com/ = wihout SPDY
https://spdytest.com/ = with SPDY

Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

the correct wikipedia link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY
generally -1, as:

Originally posted by Wikipedia:

SPDY (pronounced speedy) is a proprietary networking protocol

Originally posted by Wikipedia:

SPDY (pronounced speedy) is a proprietary networking protocol

I think this is not a reason to not implement it in the Opera Next builds.

SPDY support:
Google Chrome = since v11 (default = enabled)
Mozilla Firefox = since v11 [20111204] (default = disabled)

First test cases seems to work good:
http://bit.ly/tUAvzq

Originally posted by MrX1980:

I think this is not a reason to not implement it in the Opera Next builds.

TCP/IP and HTTP are open standards. The web is built on open standards.

Anyway, I don't know if Opera should be spearheading this one. See http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3309999

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Originally posted by serious:

SPDY (pronounced speedy) is a proprietary networking protocol

You seriously have no proofs to back-up your quote from Wikipedia. The Wikipedia article does not contain the word 'proprietary' at all. I don't say you are wrong but I was unable to find a reputive citation for this.

Anyways, as per many websites, SPDY is still experimental or just in a 'Editor's draft' stage right now - so let's wait till mid 2012 to see whether SPDY touches the heights of success or fails in a drastic way.

Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

You seriously have no proofs to back-up your quote from Wikipedia

erm, ever heard of their history feature? the changes to the article were made yesterday: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SPDY&action=historysubmit&diff=467823237&oldid=467578290

Originally posted by serious:

erm, ever heard of their history feature? the changes to the article were made yesterday:

OK, really sorry.

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It's nice to have some more speed boost in Opera with SPDY.

Originally posted by Frenzie:

TCP/IP and HTTP are open standards. The web is built on open standards.

SPDY will be an open standard:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2012JanMar/0098.html

Goals and Milestones:

Done First HTTP/1.1 Revision Internet Draft

Done First HTTP Security Properties Internet Draft

Feb 2012 Working Group Last Call for HTTP/1.1 Revision

Feb 2012 Working Group Last Call for HTTP Security Properties

Apr 2012 Submit HTTP/1.1 Revision to IESG for consideration as a
Proposed Standard

Apr 2012 Submit HTTP Security Properties to IESG for consideration as
Informational RFC

May 2012 First HTTP/2.0 Internet Draft

May 2013 Request Last Call for HTTP/2.0

Jul 2013 Submit HTTP/2.0 to IESG for consideration as a Proposed
Standard

ok, does this mean that we can hope for including it in the future Opera?

Knowing Opera, if it is going to be open, it will be implemented shortly after it is officially released as such.

GoogleTechTalk about SPDY (Dezember 2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNBkxA313kk

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Drawbacks:
Content is pushed regardless of existing cache resulting in waste of bandwidth.
Filtering software that rely on HTTP requests will no longer work.

The browsers Google Chrome and Chromium utilize SPDY when communicating with Google services, such as Google Search, Gmail, Chrome sync and when serving Google's ads.

Be aware, Google isn't Mother Teresa.

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I don't care if it's proprietary or not I just want to have speed!

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↑↑ That's the line of thinking that got us Flash and H264 and other things. You might not care if it is propietary or not, but the devels do have to care because they can't be sure if they can actually even try and provide you with improvements or new stuff otherwise, or even with the very program to begin with.

I don't know how necessary of this protocol. only pro of this protocol i known is faster than http.

so, +1

I remain somewhat sceptical about SPDY as it was covered in a recent Steve Gibson Security Now podcast. Opera is already a pretty fast browser and uses multiple connection streams so any improvement is likely to be limited. The published speed improvements from Google/Chrome don't seem to define too well how they were done, and in all probability were tweaked to overstate the improvement based solely on Chrome. More worrying though is if servers use SPDY's push mode they will be pushing all sorts of ads and video content that the user may well want to block via 'block content' or hosts files - only sites heavily into these sorts of things will show a speed improvement...

But until Opera implements SPDY there will be no way of knowing whether it is worth it.

Still -1, as long as SPDY is not standardized similar to HTTP and other such protocols.

Originally posted by jirayu16563:

I don't know how necessary of this protocol. only pro of this protocol i known is faster than http.

so, +1

It might be faster at cost of some CPU heating.

However there is an issue I can see for users using new hardware as well.
Namely, a huge part of Google's revenues are resulting from ads.
SPDY allows forcing ads to the browser without being requested first. As a result, all third party filtering software ore extensions like Adblock Plus will render useless.

+1 !!!!!!!!

It really works
Dramatic difference with spdy aware browser and website
Huge investment in it
It's undeniably the future... all big websites are implementing it.. (twitter just became fully spdy aware)

Much much better than opera turbo

http://youtu.be/s96SpnguLcE?t=56m12s

and as @MRx1980 said:

I think this is not a reason to not implement it in the Opera Next builds.

SPDY support:
Google Chrome = since v11 (default = enabled)
Mozilla Firefox = since v11 [20111204] (default = disabled)

Definitely -1000, Google are becoming a monopoly, They have their fingers in too many pies
already. They are doing it for their own monetary gain, Not for the benefit of the web user.

I am actually currently looking for alternatives for Translate and Image search, Which are
the only Google services i have ever used, Then i can completely boycott Google altogether.

SPDY supports your Apache server with mod_spdy

http://googledevelopers.blogspot.de/2012/04/add-spdy-support-to-your-apache-server.html
http://code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/

I am for implementation SPDY opera.
This protocol is a progressive, strongly accelerating the work sites.
Opera should not be otstoyuschim browser. It is necessary to introduce support for new, innovative standards.

This protocol is NOT proprietary anymore

so +1

Originally posted by tarc:

This protocol is NOT proprietary anymore

is it an rfc yet?

Firefox has implemented support in newer versions (not sure if that support is in the stable build yet), Microsoft is suggesting it be added to HTTP 2.0 along with websocket support, and google came up with it.
I suspect Opera will likely wait until it's either well implemented or finalized in HTTP.

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Later this month nginx will support spdy, and cloudflare will be supporting it also thus will improve speeds on our site which is served via cloudflare.. would love to see opera support it.

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It will be useful.

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Thanks.

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Since its in development stage its not really necessary.
But there is a browser war going on.
We must fight!!!!!!

Firefox 13 has just been released with SPDY support. This is the browser war. Opera must hurry with its own implementation.

I have been using Opera since the days of built in advertisement. I love it but for me, Opera is still struggling with some websites. I always report them but nothing happened for years. Eg. http://www.mobile01.com/

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Super fast gmail, docs, etc. with Firefox 13 and SPDY.

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Originally posted by serious:

Originally posted by tarc:

This protocol is NOT proprietary anymore

is it an rfc yet?

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mbelshe-httpbis-spdy-00

Publication date is Feb 2012

http://www.guypo.com/technical/not-as-spdy-as-you-thought/ ... so as long as sites are not optimized for it it seems there is little benefit ...

Well, it's coming.

A labs release to get your SPDY senses tingling

The latest snapshot of 12.50 now supports SPDY. All that needs to happen now is for opera.com and its subdomains to be supporting it.