U.S. Military in Europe: Time to go Home

U.S. Military in Europe: Time to go Home

The U.S. still deploys roughly 25,000 military personnel in Europe. Isn't it time for them to go home?
What possible advantage does their presence provide to the host countries?

Can someone give me at least one coherent reason why they ought to remain.

I would like to know where you guys get your information. I live in The United states. Our economy is strong. Even with Obama's plan. This is the free world. That's why we keep troops in Europe and Many other nation. Keep our eye on all the "nutters" as rjhowie would say. It's not easy being the big boy on the 3 rock. But we are and we're here to stay. Socialist and capitalist under one democracy. I wish you all could have some. But you will because in the near future the U.S.E. will be in power and you all can join. Except rjhowie, he's clever.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Meanwhile, it is high time the US military was reduced - everywhere.

Hell, there's a detachment living in my backyard.

Originally posted by jbrothernew37:

I would like to know where you guys get your information.

We open our eyes to the truth, and accept it. Here let me get that wool off your face.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

I said a long time back now that in 1945 the USA was held in some regard as we were across the globe but not now.

Because we didn't police people, we actually came to the aid of desperate people, on the brink of losing everything. We originally said, "fuck you, fight your own wars they're your problem, not our." Yea turns out Japan thought we should join. Sad thing is, they knew they fucked up when they struck. Later after WW2 that power became a single step that would lead to today's policing issues.

Not quite the case at all Virusboy. Part of the way you folk have been brought up to think it is the most wonderful democracy in theworld when it is far from that in practice. You came into the 1st WW when it was in it's last fling and dragged into the 2nd. Your country supported all the fascist dictatorships in South America and other dictatorships as long as a they bought your goods and were pals. The world doesn't see why you need over 200 damn military bases and a million uniforms everywhere using your "security" as an excuse. The other reason is that it is part of your commercial and corporate side. Nothing to do with extending freedom or democracy. Just in passing, take today and the Middle East. Two horrible regimes in Quatar and Saudi Arabia (both involved in neighbouring Syria with your blessing) and why do you put up with that? In exchange for military bases so where is the great spread of democracy and freedoms? It's piffle.

Time after time you have put any country that doesn't give in to your commercialism into a corner. Then try to destabilise it secretly and if that doesn't work find an excuse to invade. And you know what? When the thing is over you can bet there will be a US base in it! Your own internal history has been one long fight by ordinary people to ensure the principles enshrined in that Constitution. I once joked here that if there were communities living on the Moon the US would want a military base for "security" of the homeland. Big money business and politicians run the place and you get elections to keep the children happy. When you look at what has happened inside the USA over two centuries and the struggle and court battles of everyday citizens you do have a cheek as a country to try and foist your ideas on everyone else! You also have more spy agencies than any other first world nation and poverty, lack of freedoms and rights are there all the time.

For far too long Americans have been conditioned into thinking of itself as the world's policeman and doing so with a sigh of "Ah, well, we must do it." No you damn well don't. And by the way you didn't win the 2 World Wars yourself although you would think that with the stuff we get hit with. Your participation was valued and a help but don't get carried away with it. In 1945 along with other Allies you were regarded generally and there was good will. That has vanished over the decades when you were then progressed into the world's new Imperial power after that War. You squandered the regard by the two-faced political and military jaunts across the world. Now you are in a mess and the financial debacle was started by your nation. Oh and I know too that many across the pond will get hot under the collar for the rest of us not appreciating your country but sadly your vision of the world is restricted and most haven't a clue. Considering you have to depend on a media controlled by the money barons what can one expect?

You have a lot to learn about the real world outside and need to take an even deeper look at the hypocrisy that is also inside too. Been over the pond twice and enjoyed a holiday and met people who were wise and seeing yet as a nation you have lost the plot.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

You have a lot to learn about the real world outside and need to take an even deeper look at the hypocrisy that is also inside too. Been over the pond twice and enjoyed a holiday and met people who were wise and seeing yet as a nation you have lost the plot.

Maybe some who thought it that way, but in all honesty, America wouldn't have given England the finger in 1938 for no reason.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

For far too long Americans have been conditioned into thinking of itself as the world's policeman and doing so with a sigh of "Ah, well, we must do it." No you damn well don't. And by the way you didn't win the 2 World Wars yourself although you would think that with the stuff we get hit with. Your participation was valued and a help but don't get carried away with it. In 1945 along with other Allies you were regarded generally and there was good will. That has vanished over the decades when you were then progressed into the world's new Imperial power after that War. You squandered the regard by the two-faced political and military jaunts across the world. Now you are in a mess and the financial debacle was started by your nation. Oh and I know too that many across the pond will get hot under the collar for the rest of us not appreciating your country but sadly your vision of the world is restricted and most haven't a clue. Considering you have to depend on a media controlled by the money barons what can one expect?

You've missed a few of our many negatives, to whit,
1. Most of us have crooked teeth.
2. We fart in public.
3. We're partial to Brits.
4. We like the French.
5. We tolerate the criticism of those who bloviate much but know precious little.
6. We tend to overlook the awful transgressions of those empires who actually sprinkled evil randomly in God's name.

The list goes on and on.

Let me guess, the related groups are 1-2-3 and 3-4-5-6?

And you flagrantly and immaturely overlook that the USA IS an empire of it's own! It opens up military bases everywhere, expects countries to subjugate to it's will and if they don't well look out and get the damn helmets on. It is a financial and military empire. And as for liking the French that has to an attempt at humour, right? You certainly do not tolerate those who criticise you and they are right to do so as you want to control the globe financially and where you cannot you get invaded or threatened. The country has transgressed over and over again militarily and money-wise everywhere and such an attitude shows the inbred arrogance.That old word 'hypocrisy' comes up easily. Not that it has been proved very good at empires as you created a global financial mes due to the greed of the money men who really run the country NOT the people who vote.

I will give you 3 out of 3 for utter incredulous nonsense!

I'm utterly supine to your masterful case. I'll do something about this mess as soon as daylight arrives.

If I were an actual taxpayer, I'd really be miffed!

Originally posted by rjhowie:

You certainly do not tolerate those who criticise you and they are right to do so as you want to control the globe financially and where you cannot you get invaded or threatened. The country has transgressed over and over again militarily and money-wise everywhere and such an attitude shows the inbred arrogance.

Who is the you that's mentioned?

Please delineate those countries that have been invaded because they've critiqued us. Or did you mean something else. Did I mention that countries don't criticise, people criticise. What do you mean to say?

I'm no booster of US foreign policy and, had I been in charge, would have never involved us in those daft European wars. You and the Russians would have dealt with Herr Hitler without us, or, worst case, you'd be posting here in German. Had not the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, we'd have steered clear of involvement and should have anyway since the two problems were completely unrelated.

Here we are back to the obvious but not in Michigan. Must be something in the air. It would be obvious even to the most dumb of the ex-colonists that I am referring the insitution of the country - not an individual. Trying to make argument out of being silly at pointless distractions of silly billy from an educated mind is soemthing else. If a nation sets itself up to be a military involver and invaderand claim beating it's chest, how it's the greatest place with the greatest freedoms (yawn) but in practice actually practices something else then it is one giant hypocrit ready to be aimed at.

As for the 2 World Wars, I already stated that in both you were hardly keen participants but act as if you did both yourselves. In WW2 it was a golden and massive commercial boost for your country and made a profit out of it. And that sneaky aside on speaking German stuff. Had the same Hitler got the A bomb and his worked on jets you would have been bombed so no moral high ground for you to be smirked at. You were also quite happy to take Nazi ricket scientists back for your country's own nefarious ends. It is also something when you find that many American financial institutions were content behind the scenes to deal with the Third Reich and nearly half were and are Jewish. An American with picked selections matters is a dangerous fool!

But you ought to be able to put a face to the "you," otherwise it's just more Scottish babble from the land of the ex-independent country of jigs and porridge.

And those Jews, Oh, those damnable Jews. Do I detect a hint of anti-.....No, banish the thought, Herr Howie would never sink to that.

Had the same Hitler got the A bomb and his worked on jets you would have been bombed so no moral high ground for you to be smirked at.

How god-awful goofy. Nations never occupy moral high grounds, there being no such grounds.

And the smoking ruins of Detroit would have followed the smoking ruins of London, etc., Glasgow excepted, as it was an inconsequential appendage to England.