Open About Opera information in new tab or new window

Open About Opera information in new tab or new window

The topic describes the wish pretty clear.

I don't like how the About Opera window accessed in Help menu opens in a the active tab. I would prefer it open in either a new tab or a new window.

Very simple.

You just need to uncheck in Tools->Preferences->Advanced->Browsing->Reuse existing page and that's all.

+1 There are options to do it manually, but I think About Opera should always open a new page, just like for example Manage Links does (which isn't a great example because that's not really a webpage, but anyway).

+1

+1. Not many people would want it to open in the same tab.

+1, but the work-around is simple.
Hold the Ctrl-Shift keys while clicking on About to open into background tab.

In most contexts the middle-click accomplishes same result, but doesn't work in this case.

I strongly support this wish.

-1

As pointed out, if you hold down shift it opens in a new tab, and if you have not checked "Reuse current tab." Having "About Opera" or "Help" pages not reuse the current tab would break the behaviour requested by the user and would annoy more users than it would help.

1. If you're used to working with "Reuse current tab", then just use the back button after viewing the help page as you normally would after following links.

2. If you want a non-default behaviour for the About or Help tabs, then hold down the shift key when selecting that menu item. It is easy, entirely consistent, and requires no special configuration or reprogramming.

Originally posted by Pesala:

1. If you're used to working with "Reuse current tab", then just use the back button after viewing the help page as you normally would after following links.

But if the page contains form information which you've typed in, and it also reloads when going back instead of using the cache, you've just lost all your data.

Help should always be opened in a new tab.

But thanks for letting me know about Shift. I'll have to remember to use that. Thanks.

+1 for newcomers to Opera this can be destabilising.

+1

Originally posted by Pesala:

-1

As pointed out, if you hold down shift it opens in a new tab, and if you have not checked "Reuse current tab." Having "About Opera" or "Help" pages not reuse the current tab would break the behaviour requested by the user and would annoy more users than it would help.

1. If you're used to working with "Reuse current tab", then just use the back button after viewing the help page as you normally would after following links.

2. If you want a non-default behaviour for the About or Help tabs, then hold down the shift key when selecting that menu item. It is easy, entirely consistent, and requires no special configuration or reprogramming.

we have think easier for new user and with less customization tricks. I think it iwll be many days before a user learns about holding shift key.

+1

When it will implement?
We are waiting.

+1000 I hate the way it is implimented right now...

+1 for fixing it, by having "Reuse current tab" unchecked by default.

Originally posted by burnout426:

+1 for fixing it, by having "Reuse current tab" unchecked by default.

I like the idea of having reuse current tab unchecked by default

the title of this thread means it will mostly be ignored by the devs, due to it already being possible....

the 'reuse current tab' is ticked so that it acts the same way as IE....

Originally posted by burnout426:

+1 for fixing it, by having "Reuse current tab" unchecked by default.

+1

Originally posted by illiad:

the 'reuse current tab' is ticked so that it acts the same way as IE....

I don't have any real data to back it up, but most IE users I know and have encountered ( even IE newbies ) hate that IE reuses the page. The ones that know how, turn it off. The one's that don't, ask how.

I suppose that should be addressed to MS though.

Either way, I don't think opera:about should take over any of my pages and it doesn't with 'reuse current tab' turned off.

Pesala has a point though.

yeah I never use IE unless desparate!! but as I always untick it....

+1

Oh Yes please, this one annoys me everytime!

Originally posted by Pesala:

-1

As pointed out, if you hold down shift it opens in a new tab, and if you have not checked "Reuse current tab." Having "About Opera" or "Help" pages not reuse the current tab would break the behaviour requested by the user and would annoy more users than it would help.

1. If you're used to working with "Reuse current tab", then just use the back button after viewing the help page as you normally would after following links.

2. If you want a non-default behaviour for the About or Help tabs, then hold down the shift key when selecting that menu item. It is easy, entirely consistent, and requires no special configuration or reprogramming.

Agree completely ... Consistency is Golden!
Therefore,


3. Improve consistency ... Help/About should open in a new page with "middle-click."

Originally posted by IceArdor:

But if the page contains form information which you've typed in, and it also reloads when going back instead of using the cache, you've just lost all your data.

Help should always be opened in a new tab.

But thanks for letting me know about Shift. I'll have to remember to use that. Thanks.

+ OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!

Same for the shift tip, I didn't know it.
Same for the first time I clicked "help - About", I thought it was a bug too.

+1

+1 here too, then.

Why does opera:about opens in a tab in the first place. I've never seen this anywhere else. All other programs (not just browsers, all programs) open this kind of info in a small pop-up window.

+1.

Disabling 'reuse current tab' is not helping, as I want e.g. bookmarks opened in the current tab.

+1
In 9.26 this is in Tools>Preferences>Advanced>Tabs (not Browsing) reuse current tab.
This should be disabled by default. This confounded me to no end.

Originally posted by sv-chamelea:

3. Improve consistency ... Help/About should open in a new page with "middle-click."

Only links on a page open with middle-click. Middle-click doesn't work on any menu items, so this would be, in fact, be inconsistent.

+1

Imagine if you were writing a document in Word, couldn't remember how to set section breaks so clicked on help - and found your document got replaced by another with the help information?

And then when you complained Microsoft told you it was your own stupid fault because you didn't turn off the default setting on some mysterious option about 4 levels down the hierarchy whose name gave absolutely no clue as to what it did, and which certainly didn't have the word 'help' in it?

Perhaps you'd conclude that the developers of Word might benefit from a quick trip to The Real World?

And if 'consistency' is the key - tell me a single other application that behaves the way Opera does when you select Help or About?

+1

if we enable reuse current tab, even searching creates a new tab.. ( i think ive not mistaken)

just a small window about opera would do...

+1

Found this on a different thread. I haven't tried myself and it's about Opera 10. Anyone care to try on Opera 9?

Originally posted by Xanashi:

It's actually quite easy to make the "About Opera" link, open in a new tab.
To fix it, just do the following:

Go to your opera installation directory and open the "ui" folder.
For fast access, press Win+R on your keyboard, and type;

%programfiles%\Opera 10 Preview\ui

or if you're on x64, type;

%programfiles(x86)%\Opera 10 Preview\ui

and press enter.

Now double-click the .ini file named Standard_Menu (close Opera before doing this).

Press Ctrl+B and type "about", press enter.

You should now see a line looking like this:

Item, MI_IDM_About= Go to page, "opera:about",,,"Blank"

Replace it with this line:

Item, MI_IDM_About= New page & Go to page, "opera:about",,,"Blank"

Save and exit the .ini file and re-open Opera. The "About Opera" button will now, instead of using the current tab, open in a new one.

I guess this can be done for other menu items as well.

+1

+1

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=277085

+1

+1

This was the behaviour in Opera 6.06 — with "Reuse current window" checked, About Opera opens in a new tab, and Help opens in a popup window. So, in later versions the decision was made to change this behaviour to the current case where About and Help open in the same tab if "Reuse current tab" is checked. That is, the old behaviour was regarded as inconsistent.

Perhaps, if we search back far enough, we may find a thread just like this one, but arguing that opening a new window when "Reuse current window" is checked is inconsistent. (Note that tabs were called windows in those days).

If this is changed again, no doubt we will sooner or later have a thread saying to change it to the current behaviour. So, fix it yourself using the methods already explained, and ask instead for real improvements instead of wasting development time on things that can be changed by the user to suit his or her personal preferences.

+1 I think it's a bug, & it need to be fixed...

Consistency or not, preferences (or any notification) should NEVER EVER interfere with regular work-flow, or replace accessing contents - it's common sense.

@Pesala

The thing is, every other software I know today behave like Opera 6.06, specially other browsers. At least back then, Opera was consistent with the OS standards. Also, Opera community was smaller and, dare I say, the users profile was a little different. This issue should definitely be reconsidered.

A poll about this issue has been created. Please vote here: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=3085949

+1

There is good work-arounds, use the "middle button" is good, but the default behavior should be, open the info in a new tab.

Originally posted by scmbg:

There is good work-arounds, use the "middle button" is good

activated babylon in my computer

+1

+1

Same topic: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=277085

Originally posted by victorxstc2:

Originally posted by scmbg:

There is good work-arounds, use the "middle button" is good

activated babylon in my computer

Uuupss!! hehehe, i try really hard

+1