Football = football, not soccer.

Football = football, not soccer.

Irritates me to no end and then I noticed even Opera Portal uses "soccer".

Look, it is very simple: you don't touch the ball with your hand, instead you kick it with your foot. Thus, it is football. Who the hell invented the word "soccer" anyway?
American football on the other hand is not football: you have a egg shaped object, you carry it in your hand, thus the name of the sport is handegg, not football. This isn't difficult.

I'm dead serious. Stop using the word "soccer" for a sport that already has a fitting name, you stupid redneck pricks.

Technically, it's association football. Soccer is a shortening based on the first word, while football is a shortening based on the latter. You can also interpret the word football as a game involving a ball that's played on foot. I imagine that reasoning also applies to e.g. rugby football (commonly shortened to rugby). In that case the football is simply whatever's the most popular in a certain region.

American footballs are occasionally kicked. I call the other one football soccer. I think it's a good compromise.

Originally posted by beiren:

I'm dead serious. Stop using the word "soccer" for a sport that already has a fitting name, you stupid redneck pricks.

There's far too little seriousness these days.

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/Association%20football

Always happy to assist a deadly serious person.

I'm gonna go to a restaurant in England and demand chips with my fish, as advertised. Not potato wedges, potato chips. I'll also order iced tea for the lulz. I'll bang the table until I get it.

With your pfish?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uc0bp86nLU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

You can, if you are so inclined, dribble an association football. I don't know why you would want to, but at least it is possible to do it. You cannot dribble an American football. But, it would sure be fun to watch you try.

No point in dribbling in American "football" due to it being more rugby orientated and with all those big lassies grunting about with their padding.

Football / soccer is the same but Americans call it soccer to differentiate it from American Football (played with the hand).

Also, Americans have change a lots of words like center (centre), fiber (fibre), aluminium (aluminum), program (programme), etc [the British word is in the parentheses (also called brackets in British English)

... which sound more like French.

In e.g. Dutch/German we actually say centrum/Zentrum (that is, it's closer to the Latin original). In French they actually say cen-tre. In English, you say cen-ter. That only leaves aluminum and brackets, for aluminum is also a pronunciation difference, while brackets is actually a different word.

The OED dates both aluminum and aluminium back to its discovery, with the original discoverer/identifier, Humphry Davy, proposing alimium or aluminum. Then some other guy, John Murray, wrote they should refer to it as "Aluminium, for so we shall take the liberty of writing the word, in preference to aluminum, which has a less classical sound." Both of these fellows were very much British.

As for brackets, I suppose that's actually comparable to football, just less likely to lead to such phrases as "ignorant hicks." There are many types of brackets: (), [], {}, <> just to show a few. In the US, brackets defaults to square brackets, i.e. [], whereas in the UK it defaults to round brackets, i.e. (), more commonly known as parentheses in the US.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

No point in dribbling in American "football" due to it being more rugby orientated and with all those big lassies grunting about with their padding.

You'll like this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WARgx1V1R8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

PS. I've no interest in foosball or any other version of powderpuff violence. I go for the real stuff with with F-35s, etc. If it don't end in death, it don't move me. Americans are like that, Rj.

Happy Haka, Sir.

Oh, I am not a drooling fooball fan Jaybro, although i have a tendency for Glasgow Rangers due to my background. However I also got Rugby at Senior Secondary School and that is a real man game. No prima donna stuff there a real game. Tough tackles and none of all that girly armour your erstwhile pals wear on a pitch. Considering that rugby is for the arument some comparison to what passes as footbal, over the pond our rugby men don't come the field looking like they are going to fight aliens. I do muse that Americans dget moved and indeed easily from all I observe,in everything.

I prefer soccerball myself. In civilised languages like the Scandinavian ones it is sentrum, i.e. Latin as she was spoke (latter-day Latin that is, originally spoken as kentrum or some such, like in Greek). That said, the last few centuries of innovation haven't passed us by, so we also have senter as a word.

I wouldn't venture into typography, the ensuing war could easily become bloody and cruel.

Originally posted by beiren:

Look, it is very simple: you don't touch the ball with your hand, instead you kick it with your foot. Thus, it is football. Who the hell invented the word "soccer" anyway?
American football on the other hand is not football: you have a egg shaped object, you carry it in your hand, thus the name of the sport is handegg, not football. This isn't difficult.

Then why isn't it called kicksphere?

Why do they need all that armour in what passes for that American "football"?

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Oh, I am not a drooling fooball fan Jaybro, although i have a tendency for Glasgow Rangers due to my background. However I also got Rugby at Senior Secondary School and that is a real man game. No prima donna stuff there a real game. Tough tackles and none of all that girly armour your erstwhile pals wear on a pitch. Considering that rugby is for the arument some comparison to what passes as footbal, over the pond our rugby men don't come the field looking like they are going to fight aliens. I do muse that Americans dget moved and indeed easily from all I observe,in everything.

Over here we're all well aware of the love of manly sport in the UK.
Pass the tea, mate.

He don't run fast, but he eats rugby players for lunch.

Showing a rather weak response there Jaybro based on perceived knowldeg of the UK (similar to what you accuse me of re the ex-Colonies). Cricket is a very minor activity in Scotland, Wales and Ulster, whereas football (proper game) is a massive activity here. The question has not yet been answered apart from your rather poor attempt at balance. Rugby is a bigger draw than cricket too and adopts a manly, tackling game. It has no big armour stuff so why do Americans need to wear it unless there is something unmanly going on?? One suspects it is an effort to prove that Hollywood macho image. Give me a rugby player anyday as he is taking on the physical without all that padding for big lassies. As we would say here, acting like a big lassie's blouse! Big weans (!).

Rugby doesn't have the same merciless strikes as futbol americano. If it did, players would die regularly.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Why do they need all that armour in what passes for that American "football"?

Possibility of law suits if something happens, I guess. Oh, the same padded attitude applies to baseball vs. cricket as well.

Baseball vs Cricket? The ball speeds can be much the same and both sports use helmets for the people who are trying to hit the ball. In cricket they wear pads below the waist too because a fair percentage of ball deliveries are in that general region. Cricket is not usually understood by Americans although I gather there are some elite sportsmen there who play that glorious game. It's a mark of civilised behaviour.

Cricket seems confusing as you still get to run even if you miss all the balls. And you have to run between two posts?

To avoid long-winded explanations from me:
The Rules of Cricket

What a load of old cobblers there from beiren. Why would a long term sport knowing what it is like be in danger of damn law suits? On that premise it wouldn't exist. And anyway rugby is hardly a timid game it is full of rough tackles just like that American hoo-ha but without being armoured to give the imprsession it is so phsical. Another ex-Colonist bit of ramatazz.

I had to look it up, got curious. Found something by sheer chance.

I got curious about Rugby since RJH mentions it so much here and how it's supposedly superior to American Football because the players don't wear the padding that is common on the American field. As near as I can figure the games look remarkably similar so he may have a point-- up to a point. Some Rugby players appear to take the issue of not wearing padding a wee bit far, though, in my never-to-be-humble opinion. See below--- no, I did not make this up.

Naked Rugby-- I kid you not.

Points noted favourably!

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

Naked Rugby-- I kid you not.

Hey, watching that would be better use of time than a 1 hour game (four fifteen minute quarters) drag on for four hours

Anyway, New Zealand All Blacks

Both Cricket and Baseball are excellent cures for insomnia

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

I had to look it up, got curious. Found something by sheer chance.

I got curious about Rugby since RJH mentions it so much here and how it's supposedly superior to American Football because the players don't wear the padding that is common on the American field. As near as I can figure the games look remarkably similar so he may have a point-- up to a point. Some Rugby players appear to take the issue of not wearing padding a wee bit far, though, in my never-to-be-humble opinion. See below--- no, I did not make this up.

Naked Rugby-- I kid you not.

Strange stuff.

Well I cannot disagree with that comment Sanguinemoon!

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

You cannot dribble an American football. But, it would sure be fun to watch you try.

I have heard from a reputable source that due to a rare medical condition, it is possible to dribble American footballs;
The aflicted generally hide their visage because one can imagine how embarrassing it must be to suddenly be overtaken
by a sudden outpouring of American footballs dribbling from within~~
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