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Flash videos often don't workOkay, there's no Flash 8 for Linux but this is not causing the problem.
However, that actually does work if I'm using Firefox. Both use the same Flash 7 plugin, so obviously Flash is not to blame.
Then again, the very same Opera (any version at all) with Flash 7 on Windows instead of Linux does play those Streamed videos.
So what could be the problem? And how can we get that fixed?
14. March 2006, 01:09:06 (edited)
Previous to this I was using the build from http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-1656/intel-linux/ ... it's Opera 9, a weekly version, number 1656.
If you can do it with Opera 9, same version and Flash, same version, why can't I? Nothing happens at all when I press the play button. Normally there should be a loading Icon and then playback of some clips is supposed to start.
I've run Opera 9 from scratch installation with zero changes to it's initial setup, went straight to GameSpot and got the same result. Same on www.tv.com, which uses the exact same flash player on it's front page. Firefox can do this with no problems using the same plugin, just like it did before. So the plugin itself is fine.
I'm ... confused.
Upon pressing the play button, the small video window normally should show you a small circle made out of dots, indicating that a video is loading. The round circle isn't displayed here. I really need to find out what exactly is supposed to happen beneath the surface of this, and at which point it precisely fails here.
Are you sure you were running the exact same O version I was, using the same flash plugin, on the same OS, meaning Linux? I already know that this works perfectly using Windows. At least my friends Windows. =/
What else could be at fault? If it isn't the flash plugin, and if it isn't really the browser since you're using the same, it must be the OS? Or the X Server? Or Qt? Or the pluginwrapper? Damn ... I'm lost.
I'm also totally mystified, since Flash video works flawlessly on Firefox. And no, I don't use any proxies, tried with one, with the same results.
You are identified as Opera, yes? (F12 menu)
There are sites which don't work in Opera, if you're talking about some other site you'd need to give me a link so I can look at it. But that Flash video on the right hand side of Gamespot works great here. (They just now had a preview of "The Outfit", followed by a promo for a live chat this afternoon, followed by a "Welcome to Gamespot" which I didn't wait through.)
The only other thing ... there are two file types which should be associated with the Flash plugin. One is application/x-shockwave-flash, the other is application/futuresplash. I didn't look at the page source to see which one they actually use. Oh, and do you have Java? Some plugin facilities connect through Java, you may also need to have Java enabled.
I am identifying as Opera (anything else is heresy! )
Hadn't thought about Java, it was disabled (but working), but sadly enabling seemed to have no effect whatsoever. Checked also those MIME associations, they'd seem to be okay.
14. March 2006, 21:25:36 (edited)
Yes, Java is installed and tested, and the GameSpot video is not showing with Opera being set to identify itself in all available choices (checked them all with full restart of the browser and reload of the page).
By the way, I too am running Gentoo Linux. At the moment O9 is not statically linked with Qt, but only because that wasn't available in the current weekly release. All releases I've been using before that were statically linked. So I guess Qt can be ruled out as the bad guy as well.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to be mystified, but ... I guess that's not a good thing.
PS: And yes, Google videos don't work for me as well. I guess it's for the same reason. Whatever the reason may be. "Buffering" it says ... but it is not really loading the video according to gkrellm's activity network-O-meter.
(Naturally don't recognize the soccer player the piece is about, we don't hear much about European sports here.)
Flash does work properly on Macromedia's test page? Which version of Java (you can find out from Tools > Advanced > Java console)?
Actually, the Google page starts automatically, it shouldn't depend on Java.
Java vendor: Blackdown Java-Linux Team
Java version: 1.4.2-01
Do you think there may be something wrong with how Opera works in Gentoo Linux? =/ I'm beginning to think that, but I cannot even begin to understand where it might go wrong.
Macromedia doesn't have a Shockwave for Director (aka Shockwave) plugin for Linux; unless you're using Crossover to run the Windows plugin, you can't get the Shockwave plugin to work.
15. March 2006, 23:33:52 (edited)
However that does not improve with the problem we're facing.... the flash movie still will not load or start.
I don't know, frankly I'm out of ideas. Flash does work, but not videos - but there doesn't seem to be anything which would stop Flash from loading the video (no proxy or firewall).
You seem to have by far the most experience with Opera for Linux, and frankly, you're the only one who responded, so I don't really have anyone else to turn to.
Filing this a a bug is probably not right because it might not actually be Opera related. The only thing in common with the problem was so far that both users are using Gentoo Linux.
Thanks for the notification on Flash, I'll disable it for now and update it when the update is available in portage (should be like, tomorrow or somethin').
This one dosn't work. Plugin hangs at loading videos.
sugh plugins # pwd /test/netscape/plugins sugh plugins # ls -la total 2118 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Mar 22 21:06 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 1024 Mar 22 21:06 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 856 Mar 22 20:58 flashplayer.xpt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2154768 Mar 22 20:58 libflashplayer.so
This works just fine:
sugh plugins # pwd /test/plugins sugh plugins # ls -la total 2118 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Mar 22 21:09 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 1024 Mar 22 20:57 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 856 Mar 22 20:56 flashplayer.xpt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2154768 Mar 22 20:56 libflashplayer.so
This one also works fine, so it can't be related to the depth of the directory structure
/home/slegge/test/plugins/install_flash_player_7_linux sugh install_flash_player_7_linux # ls -la total 2114 drwxr-xr-x 2 slegge users 120 Mar 22 21:11 . drwxr-xr-x 3 slegge users 152 Mar 22 20:31 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 856 Mar 22 21:11 flashplayer.xpt -rwxr-xr-x 1 slegge users 2154768 Dec 9 01:44 libflashplayer.so
PS: Might actualy be a problem with the plugin itself, although it works in firefox so i doubt that is the case.
PPS: uhh, unless firefox copies the plugin to its own plugin directory that is. If it does, then it might be the flash plugins fault.
Since I used Macromedia's installer, I just told it to install to /usr/lib/opera and that works fine. Though I went back and installed to /usr/lib/mozilla so Firefox and Konqueror could also find it. (Standard locations on a Mandrake system for those.)
23. March 2006, 02:12:36 (edited)
down the page right side
fight the fear
it want me to download something
any idea what that is
Tournament TV Artist: GameSpot Length: 0:38:31 Mime: video/x-ms-wmv Audio: MS Windows Media Audio 2 (ffmpeg) 9kb/s Video: Windows Media Video 9 160x120
Since I don't have the Windows codecs installed, I can't see the video, but the audio is fine.