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11. April 2012, 15:36:54

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sgunhouse

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Build 1360 - more address field work

New snapshot today. Some changes to how autocomplete works, most notably what happens if you have multiple terms (separated by spaces) in the address field. Before, it would always go to the default search, now it will also make page title for visited links or also history.

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2012/04/10/next-address-field-adjustments

11. April 2012, 22:50:19

D1sasterp1ece

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I still experience some problems with smooth scrolling. Example - this page - click on 'Discography', then on 'Complete discography' (so there's a longer page to scroll). Scroll down a bit, then scroll back up quickly. The screenshot below shows what happens for me - it's like the page is dragging out the toolbar, plus there's a nasty 'wavy' effect on the same horizontal line with the fixed menu to the left. I tried it with the Standard skin and with no extensions, so this is not a side effect of something. HwA is disabled, I don't have an adequate GPU for it.



On the other hand, I see a pretty nice improvements in the address field - matching visited URLs or bookmarks is now way better. One more thing I'd like to see though is matching from 'mid-word' in the address itself - for now it seems to only work for titles and only when the 'mid-word' begins with a capital (and there's lower case letters before it) - e.g. 'tube' would match something with 'YouTube', but not 'Youtube' neither 'YOUTUBE'. Another thing that seems to be WIP for now - some bookmarks in the address field appear without the star icon that's usually in front of the favicon, the only dependence I see for now is that only bookmarks without a dedicated title (e.g. those cases when the URL becomes the title) have the star in front.

I still got some R6025 errors (I know, it's in the known issues).
I experience crashes when trying to play a YouTube video with ExtendTube enabled.
А crappy old PC running XP Pro SP3 and Opera 11.64 (1403) + 12.02 (1578) + 12.15 (1748) (plus a few other builds)
Opera Mobile 14 beta & Opera Mobile 12.1 & Opera Mini 7.5 on Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Opera Mobile 12 & Opera Mini 7 on Nokia E51

12. April 2012, 09:17:22 (edited)

D1sasterp1ece

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One more issue that I noticed (seems like a bug) - even if I have Open Dragged Link In Background disabled, it doesn't seem to work and I can still drag a link to open it, so it happened multiple times that I accidentally (and unintentionally) open a link this way.
А crappy old PC running XP Pro SP3 and Opera 11.64 (1403) + 12.02 (1578) + 12.15 (1748) (plus a few other builds)
Opera Mobile 14 beta & Opera Mobile 12.1 & Opera Mini 7.5 on Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Opera Mobile 12 & Opera Mini 7 on Nokia E51

12. April 2012, 11:10:59

HammerJoe

Posts: 109

These last couple versions are a disaster for me.
Opera hangs, freezes and flash has to be reinstalled constantly.
Last working version for me is 1360.
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12. April 2012, 16:03:17

GiraffePC

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Originally posted by D1sasterp1ece:

One more issue that I noticed (seems like a bug) - even if I have Open Dragged Link In Background disabled, it doesn't seem to work and I can still drag a link to open it, so it happened multiple times that I accidentally (and unintentionally) open a link this way.


Yes, it keeps on happening with even the slightest drag - except that, for me, it opens a new tab in the foreground.
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12. April 2012, 16:24:52

My question might be a little off-topic but i searched around and couldn't find an answer.
How can i upgrade my current final version of Opera with Opera next, so that i dont have two versions running in parallel?
So im wondering if theres a way to make Opera next upgrade on the current installation rather than install separately.

12. April 2012, 17:15:28

D1sasterp1ece

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Originally posted by alirezasimkesh:

My question might be a little off-topic but i searched around and couldn't find an answer.
How can i upgrade my current final version of Opera with Opera next, so that i dont have two versions running in parallel?
So im wondering if theres a way to make Opera next upgrade on the current installation rather than install separately.



Just point it to the current installation's path - run the installer and hit 'Options' - you'll have an option to set the path there.
A better approach is, though, to do a portable install of Next - thus it won't touch your first installation.
А crappy old PC running XP Pro SP3 and Opera 11.64 (1403) + 12.02 (1578) + 12.15 (1748) (plus a few other builds)
Opera Mobile 14 beta & Opera Mobile 12.1 & Opera Mini 7.5 on Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Opera Mobile 12 & Opera Mini 7 on Nokia E51

12. April 2012, 18:42:03

Originally posted by D1sasterp1ece:

Originally posted by alirezasimkesh:

My question might be a little off-topic but i searched around and couldn't find an answer.
How can i upgrade my current final version of Opera with Opera next, so that i dont have two versions running in parallel?
So im wondering if theres a way to make Opera next upgrade on the current installation rather than install separately.



Just point it to the current installation's path - run the installer and hit 'Options' - you'll have an option to set the path there.
A better approach is, though, to do a portable install of Next - thus it won't touch your first installation.



Thanks but your second approach wont upgrade my current installation right?

12. April 2012, 19:31:18

D1sasterp1ece

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Originally posted by alirezasimkesh:

Originally posted by D1sasterp1ece:

Originally posted by alirezasimkesh:

My question might be a little off-topic but i searched around and couldn't find an answer.
How can i upgrade my current final version of Opera with Opera next, so that i dont have two versions running in parallel?
So im wondering if theres a way to make Opera next upgrade on the current installation rather than install separately.



Just point it to the current installation's path - run the installer and hit 'Options' - you'll have an option to set the path there.
A better approach is, though, to do a portable install of Next - thus it won't touch your first installation.



Thanks but your second approach wont upgrade my current installation right?



Yup, just set a different install path - e.g. if your primary one is 'C:\Program Files\Opera', set this one to be in 'C:\Program Files\Opera Next' and choose 'Stand-alone installation (USB)'. Oh, I forgot that the path is different by default (so you cannot accidentally upgrade your primary install), you may just need to choose USB install.
А crappy old PC running XP Pro SP3 and Opera 11.64 (1403) + 12.02 (1578) + 12.15 (1748) (plus a few other builds)
Opera Mobile 14 beta & Opera Mobile 12.1 & Opera Mini 7.5 on Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Opera Mobile 12 & Opera Mini 7 on Nokia E51

13. April 2012, 05:11:16

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sgunhouse

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Originally posted by HammerJoe:

Last working version for me is 1360.


Care to try that again? 1360 is this version. You mean the last version (1359), the one before that (1351). or the one before 11.62 was released (which is to say, the one before out-of-process plugins were incorporated)? Also, is your system 32-bit or 64-bit, and if 64 then are you using the 64-bit Opera or the 32-bit?

13. April 2012, 10:04:42

tushar2075

Posts: 196

Not impressed with this version (Opera 12 build 1360 32 Bit running on Windows 7 32 Bit Ultimate).

It is crashing too much. While browsing suddenly the tabs responding in a sense that I can switch the tabs but clicking on any link the tab does nothing. Try refreshing the tab it does nothing. No plugin, no extension works. The only way is to close the browsers and as soon as I close it, I get 3 to 4 C++ Runtime error dialog. It is frustrating. It is also surprising that Opera Dev/Management thinks fixing an "Address Bar" is more important than fixing a runtime error !!

Since it is a runtime error the users do not have chance to report back in any form.

Opera please fix core issues rather than fixing the cosmetic changes.

Thanks
mad irked

13. April 2012, 10:06:04

ytsmabeer

Frisian translator of Stuff

Posts: 1898

It's a snapshot and not everyone has trouble with the known issues

14. April 2012, 09:08:04

Mike46

Posts: 197

I too have issues with slow lazy tabs opening and several runtime errors...
development does take time though I guess...smile

14. April 2012, 10:39:23

friguron

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Posts: 628

Originally posted by psychedelic_fur:

Not impressed with this version (Opera 12 build 1360 32 Bit running on Windows 7 32 Bit Ultimate).

It is crashing too much. While browsing suddenly the tabs responding in a sense that I can switch the tabs but clicking on any link the tab does nothing. Try refreshing the tab it does nothing. No plugin, no extension works. The only way is to close the browsers and as soon as I close it, I get 3 to 4 C++ Runtime error dialog. It is frustrating. It is also surprising that Opera Dev/Management thinks fixing an "Address Bar" is more important than fixing a runtime error !!

Since it is a runtime error the users do not have chance to report back in any form.

Opera please fix core issues rather than fixing the cosmetic changes.

Thanks
mad irked



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Opera builds from one month ago are virtually worthless!! Constant crashes, freezes and reboots... There's a minimum threshold of usability and they don't event pass it right now... I can't remember a proper session in weeks...
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14. April 2012, 20:08:33

marsland

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Hi guys

The HTML5 capabilities of this build are awesome. I tested it with the Microsoft fish bowl and some other pages.

But it does seem noticeably slower at loading large pages like Engadget.com, which takes nearly twice as long as in Opera 11.6

Fingers crossed this is just an interim thing and Opera 12 will be just as fast as 11 if not faster.

Cheers

16. April 2012, 09:18:48

tushar2075

Posts: 196

Originally posted by friguron:

Opera builds from one month ago are virtually worthless!! Constant crashes, freezes and reboots... There's a minimum threshold of usability and they don't event pass it right now... I can't remember a proper session in weeks...


I quite agree with your observation. On top of it sometimes you find an old fixed bug has reappeared in the new snapshots !!
I mean are we supposed to test a new feature/functionality or the new bug fixed or first check if the bug(s) has(have) reappeared ?

Thanks

17. April 2012, 01:53:28

Stahn

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Please be patient. These are TEST builds. I'm sure that Opera devs won't release a stable unusable build.

Porting to 64 bits is VERY lenghty, as we saw from other browsers. Also, Flash (and all plugins) are becoming more and more bloated. These issues for sure will be addressed, but will take time.
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