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Opera 12.00 build 1387 - RC for Beta
As if you didn't expect it from the fast pace of recent snapshots ... today's snapshot is listed as a (first) release candidate for Beta 1.Mind you, I don't think they've fixed my pet bug yet (won't know until I re-enable acceleration), and we have the list below as well:
Known Issues
- No FreeBSD builds (yet)
- Problems with dragging on Google Maps
- 64-bit Windows build crashes when connecting to a POP account
Actually, I see a FreeBSD build now, so I suppose the first one there has been corrected ...
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2012/04/25/12-beta-rc
27. April 2012, 08:23:10 (edited)
I updated from buggy 1328 to 1387 with auto-update. This version should be still alpha. Too much bugs for beta:
1. Opera hangs on facebook and other websites. CPU 100% and "not responding". Scrolling the wall is slow due to loading older posts.
2. Opera is faster with hardware acceleration enabled. Performance is slow with HWA disabled, mainly in HTML 5. Why? **
3. Flash on fixing bugs and adding new features instead of changing icons (they replaced recycle bin into an arrow).
4. You should still work on Opera's startup time and overall performance. People want fast and stable browser!
6. Back/Forward buttons are slow. I remember them switching immediately even in Opera 9/10.
7. Scrolling some websites (e.g. Opera test page 2) is extremely slow and Opera's interface (tabs and address bar) is displayed in the middle of page!
** Windows Vista and 7 don't have HWA for GDI, Windows XP has but is it a reason? Currently I'm browsing with Opera's HWA disabled.
Win 7 + Aero enabled + Transparency disabled + Core i3 350M + ATI Radeon + 4 GB RAM
But there is a plus... Opera uses less memory because they fixed some memory leaks
1. Opera hangs on facebook and other websites. CPU 100% and "not responding". Scrolling the wall is slow due to loading older posts.
2. Opera is faster with hardware acceleration enabled. Performance is slow with HWA disabled, mainly in HTML 5. Why? **
3. Flash on fixing bugs and adding new features instead of changing icons (they replaced recycle bin into an arrow).
4. You should still work on Opera's startup time and overall performance. People want fast and stable browser!
6. Back/Forward buttons are slow. I remember them switching immediately even in Opera 9/10.
7. Scrolling some websites (e.g. Opera test page 2) is extremely slow and Opera's interface (tabs and address bar) is displayed in the middle of page!
** Windows Vista and 7 don't have HWA for GDI, Windows XP has but is it a reason? Currently I'm browsing with Opera's HWA disabled.
Win 7 + Aero enabled + Transparency disabled + Core i3 350M + ATI Radeon + 4 GB RAM
But there is a plus... Opera uses less memory because they fixed some memory leaks
27. April 2012, 21:29:14 (edited)
Complete failure:
1 - it completely crashes constantly when even the simplest task is done: when opening the bookmarks, when closing a tab, when trying to access the trashcan, when minimizing the window or even moving the window if the HW is enabled.
2 - the scrolling errors are everywhere, it has became pretty much a bad joke - it's like they are trying to se how badly you can mess up even the simplest page while doing even the slowest scroll
3 - the speeds (both launching and loading a site, both with and without HWA) are abysmal, they're even a LOT slower than IE8 - 11.62 is a lot faster and 9.21 runs circles around both. With HWA it practically unusable, it just stays there and from time to time just randomly react to a long forgotten command.
4 - the plugin wrapper process is completely out of control - in a flash heavy site i can get even 20 of them - and doesn't gives you anything in return: the so called ability to close one of them or allow it to crash independently is pure BS, in reality the entire browser freezes and you have to manually close all those god-damned processes from the task manager.
I would have liked to have the new address bar (remember when we all lamented here the old version and the developers claimed that the new one is a lot better and we don't know it, now it's basically back as it was before), but the rest of the browser simply isn't worth keeping it. This has been my last Next version and i don't plan to update the stable one anymore. I will stay with 11.62 forever since apparently XP is no longer supported by the new versions. And all of this because instead of refining a slim, efficient browser the developers have decided to cram it full of useless, shiny crap that not only almost noone used and what was used worked miserably. Too bad, we've all lost in that.
1 - it completely crashes constantly when even the simplest task is done: when opening the bookmarks, when closing a tab, when trying to access the trashcan, when minimizing the window or even moving the window if the HW is enabled.
2 - the scrolling errors are everywhere, it has became pretty much a bad joke - it's like they are trying to se how badly you can mess up even the simplest page while doing even the slowest scroll
3 - the speeds (both launching and loading a site, both with and without HWA) are abysmal, they're even a LOT slower than IE8 - 11.62 is a lot faster and 9.21 runs circles around both. With HWA it practically unusable, it just stays there and from time to time just randomly react to a long forgotten command.
4 - the plugin wrapper process is completely out of control - in a flash heavy site i can get even 20 of them - and doesn't gives you anything in return: the so called ability to close one of them or allow it to crash independently is pure BS, in reality the entire browser freezes and you have to manually close all those god-damned processes from the task manager.
I would have liked to have the new address bar (remember when we all lamented here the old version and the developers claimed that the new one is a lot better and we don't know it, now it's basically back as it was before), but the rest of the browser simply isn't worth keeping it. This has been my last Next version and i don't plan to update the stable one anymore. I will stay with 11.62 forever since apparently XP is no longer supported by the new versions. And all of this because instead of refining a slim, efficient browser the developers have decided to cram it full of useless, shiny crap that not only almost noone used and what was used worked miserably. Too bad, we've all lost in that.
XP SP3 32bit
28. April 2012, 10:16:30 (edited)
Originally posted by eschamp:
Where do I get 12 alpha from?
Hello ,
Try this link it is for build 1383 the last Alpha before they started with the big changes . Opera build 1383
Hope that it helps . roll back may cause unexpected results .
cheers!!
"It's far worse that a conspiracy in America... It's a Tradition"
Next bugs:
8. Opera constantly uses about 5-10% CPU despite it does nothing.
9. Opera doesn't display some background images. Previous versions didn't have this bug. IE 8 has similar issue.
10. Typing in textarea seems to be litle slow.
11. Opening links in new tabs with drag & move down/up gesture is too sensitive.
12. Why does Opera load operapluginwrapper process if I have disabled plugins?
13. Windows XP with Themes service disabled - try to click drop-down (bin) icon.
14. Offensive JavaScript is still slow, memory usage too high, when will you fix all memory leaks?
8. Opera constantly uses about 5-10% CPU despite it does nothing.
9. Opera doesn't display some background images. Previous versions didn't have this bug. IE 8 has similar issue.
10. Typing in textarea seems to be litle slow.
11. Opening links in new tabs with drag & move down/up gesture is too sensitive.
12. Why does Opera load operapluginwrapper process if I have disabled plugins?
13. Windows XP with Themes service disabled - try to click drop-down (bin) icon.
14. Offensive JavaScript is still slow, memory usage too high, when will you fix all memory leaks?
- When I want to change the skin, I have to manually find the site. "Find More Skins" takes me to a selection of background images. How very firefoxey.
- I install my favorite skin from Opera 11. Whenever Opera loads anew, the skin is loaded, but elements that are supposed to be in color are white/grey. I'm using the Opera Fan Club v.1152 skin (a.k.a. Affinity).
- I install my favorite skin from Opera 11. Whenever Opera loads anew, the skin is loaded, but elements that are supposed to be in color are white/grey. I'm using the Opera Fan Club v.1152 skin (a.k.a. Affinity).
Opera 12 gets subjectively slower than Opera 11.62
- Does not work Drag-n-Drop in Google Images (disguised as Firefox)
- Not displayed on the left side of the notebook http://tomorrow.do site, as well as the background is not visible
- A quick scroll through the page that contains youtube video, the video flickers "tail"
- Unable to close the window to check for new versions on the "OK" if there is no new version (Russian Language)
The platform is windows
Sorry for my english
- Does not work Drag-n-Drop in Google Images (disguised as Firefox)
- Not displayed on the left side of the notebook http://tomorrow.do site, as well as the background is not visible
- A quick scroll through the page that contains youtube video, the video flickers "tail"
- Unable to close the window to check for new versions on the "OK" if there is no new version (Russian Language)
The platform is windows
Sorry for my english
Epic poor facebook performance (high cpu and a lot of "Not responding"). I use the https connection to facebook and the 64-bit version of Opera.
Win 7x64 - HWA true - 6 GB RAM
30. April 2012, 22:31:41 (edited)
Most GIF animations are played until you scroll the wheel (although they are still visible). Other issue: images are loaded from memory, scaled and rendered each time they are displayed on the screen after not being visible or after switching tabs. Next issue: build 1387 loses images.
@amundgjersoe: Facebook and other websites (probably some scripts) lock out Opera completely. I have been reporting with a form in Help menu.
@amundgjersoe: Facebook and other websites (probably some scripts) lock out Opera completely. I have been reporting with a form in Help menu.
As some have mentioned, the L-dragging issue is a real nuisance. I was trying to find something on Google Maps whilst on the 'phone, so limited time, and having to use the directional arrows instead of dragging really slowed me down.
The system clock running fast - about 2s/min!
Some toolbars in some skins turning black.
Startup OK at ~7s (5yo PC), but then ~12s for Bookmarks to load (Unite is off)
After anything but v. simple browsing Opera crashes on exit (ongoing since about 11.5).
The system clock running fast - about 2s/min!
Some toolbars in some skins turning black.
Startup OK at ~7s (5yo PC), but then ~12s for Bookmarks to load (Unite is off)
After anything but v. simple browsing Opera crashes on exit (ongoing since about 11.5).
XP Pro SP3; 1GB RAM; Avast! AV; Comodo F/W; always the latest Opera!
Build 1387 is unusable. Opera suspends on Facebook and other sites with CPU 100%. Disabling JavaScript doesn't help. Fix all bugs posted above.
Plugin wrapper: first time CPU usage was 100% and I had to kill opera_plugin_wrapper. Next time it worked but still slowly!
Plugin wrapper: first time CPU usage was 100% and I had to kill opera_plugin_wrapper. Next time it worked but still slowly!
4. May 2012, 16:11:07 (edited)
Originally posted by sgunhouse:
As if you didn't expect it from the fast pace of recent snapshots ... today's snapshot is listed as a (first) release candidate for Beta 1.
Mind you, I don't think they've fixed my pet bug yet (won't know until I re-enable acceleration), and we have the list below as well:
Known Issues
- No FreeBSD builds (yet)
- Problems with dragging on Google Maps
- 64-bit Windows build crashes when connecting to a POP account
Actually, I see a FreeBSD build now, so I suppose the first one there has been corrected ...
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2012/04/25/12-beta-rc
confirm,
besides those bugs i also experience
- tabs are closing very slowly, having tabs rendering artefacts during closing
- rendering problems on pages with flash
- sometimes pages with flash hangs so i can't switch between tabs and have to kill opera
- pinned tabs looks like unpinned after returning from fullscreen mode (bug report created)
Win7x64 + Opera x64 1387
Flash 11.2.202.233
Originally posted by lukfi89:
- When I want to change the skin, I have to manually find the site. "Find More Skins" takes me to a selection of background images. How very firefoxey.
- I install my favorite skin from Opera 11. Whenever Opera loads anew, the skin is loaded, but elements that are supposed to be in color are white/grey. I'm using the Opera Fan Club v.1152 skin (a.k.a. Affinity).
There should be a link in the UI for both, it's poor UI design to have skinning functionality but never expose any UI accessible manner in which to use it.
6. May 2012, 17:45:04 (edited)
Just a little feedback. I love Opera, indeed!!
Probably me that not are putting things correct together.
It (1387) hangs very often. Actually, very very often and I no longer get a respond page as earlier. I can restart from last session and it's ok, but mostly I have found it is best to start from homepage. I have especially problems with java scrips like contacting my bank account.
And Youtube!
Best regards
justafriend (and opera supporter for several years, Internet for all!)
Especially some plugins I don't know is doing hangs all up. When kill some of them, it works. I'm just a amateur
Probably me that not are putting things correct together.
It (1387) hangs very often. Actually, very very often and I no longer get a respond page as earlier. I can restart from last session and it's ok, but mostly I have found it is best to start from homepage. I have especially problems with java scrips like contacting my bank account.
And Youtube!
Best regards
justafriend (and opera supporter for several years, Internet for all!)
Especially some plugins I don't know is doing hangs all up. When kill some of them, it works. I'm just a amateur
When I install a theme, download bar disappeared after some time leaving the download unfinished and no theme installed.
I tried to install the brushed metal theme and as it is so small, it finished downloading before the bar disappeared and the theme installed successfully.
what to do?
I tried to install the brushed metal theme and as it is so small, it finished downloading before the bar disappeared and the theme installed successfully.
what to do?
Bug: Opera 12 beta freezes for 5-10 seconds while loading page...even sites like my.opera.com
Slow startup compared to Opera 11.62
Slow startup compared to Opera 11.62
Originally posted by golfdude:
im on win 7 32 bit and this RC loves to make random links i click open in new windows for no reason.. links that are not supposed to open in new tabs keep opening in new tabs and it gets annoying
The same problem. What about to fix it?
This is the most unpleasant bug forcing me to uninstall Opera 12
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