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Tuesday, 9. May 2006, 10:23:46

ManneS

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From now on, let's try to keep all your wishes in this thread. It's nice for us at Opera to have a way of finding all your wishes!

But remember, behave! :wink: And nothing else but wishes. Anything else will be removed.

Keep up the good work! :yes:

Tuesday, 9. May 2006, 13:25:57

Cyke

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Firstly, there could be serious security improvements like SSL so we could access secured e-mail accounts and maybe also bank accounts.

And secondly, I would like Opera not to disconnect after loading a single page. And don't anybody tell me it is not the browser's issue, as you can find in the Net a modified version of Opera 1.2 with such option built in. What's the problem to implement such functionality in, let's say, Opera 2.1?

Tuesday, 9. May 2006, 15:36:31

matho

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i suggest to add ability to jump directly on any divided page e.g. next previous 1 2 3. .....last

Tuesday, 9. May 2006, 16:33:12

Shulyaka

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My phone (SE) adds a small globe icon to the upper right corner indicating an open gprs session. Could you remove it?
Don't tell me you can't do that: in 2.0 this icon is displayed more highly than in 1.2 and is blocked by the scroll bar, so you can control it some way.

Tuesday, 9. May 2006, 16:52:09

Shulyaka

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Java applications usually need user permission to open internet connection. My phone allows me 3 options for unsigned applications: 'deny', 'always ask' and 'ask once'; and 4 options for signed applications: 'deny', 'always ask', 'ask once' and 'allow'. I downloaded opera mini from http://mini.opera.com/ , but phone says the source is untrusted. I think this happened because opera mini is unsigned. So, sign it to remove the dialog that asks permission.

Tuesday, 9. May 2006, 17:39:10

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Well....
I start saying that mini is the best software I have ever seen on my mobile. I use it everyday and now, I love it :love:

Now here a list of wishes:
- secure connection in order to manage my paypal/ebay account without any problem.
- Tabbed browsing, up to 3/4 tabs. I know that device memory limit is a problem, but with modern devices 4 tabs is possible.
(My Moto V3x have 2Mb of heap mem.)
- RSS Support like Opera Mobile 8.6
- PDF support to read simple text pdf
- Support for personalized skin
- For the far feature, JSR75 support should be awesome, with this API's we should manage download directly from Mini.
- Signed version, probably Verisign certificate should be the best supported certification, but I know that signing mini will drop the compatibility with many phones. If you will ever decide to sign mini please don't forget that Moto needs a particular verisign certificate P:

This is all but the most important thing is that you must know that we love Opera Software :cheers:

Tuesday, 9. May 2006, 17:41:15

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Originally posted by Shulyaka:

My phone (SE) adds a small globe icon to the upper right corner indicating an open gprs session. Could you remove it?
Don't tell me you can't do that: in 2.0 this icon is displayed more highly than in 1.2 and is blocked by the scroll bar, so you can control it some way.



Opera can't do that. This globe is out from the java environment.

Tuesday, 9. May 2006, 19:12:29

Shulyaka

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Originally posted by sblantipodi:

Opera can't do that. This globe is out from the java environment.


Read what I wrote before. Opera CAN change the globe's position, it CAN overdraw a half of it by the scroll bar, so 2-3 strings of code could solve this problem. Perhaps it can be moved out of screen or be overdrown by something. That's what I ment.

Tuesday, 9. May 2006, 19:48:14

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Originally posted by Shulyaka:

Originally posted by sblantipodi:

Opera can't do that. This globe is out from the java environment.


Read what I wrote before. Opera CAN change the globe's position, it CAN overdraw a half of it by the scroll bar, so 2-3 strings of code could solve this problem. Perhaps it can be moved out of screen or be overdrown by something. That's what I ment.



I've read but you're wrong.
As I told before this globe is out from the java environment and it can't be overdrown.

Tuesday, 9. May 2006, 20:29:27

Shulyaka

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Originally posted by sblantipodi:

I've read but you're wrong.
As I told before this globe is out from the java environment and it can't be overdrown.

Well, Opera doesn't draw this icon, but I can see a half of it overdrown by the scroll bar right now. I'll post a photo tomorrow, ok?

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 04:18:18

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I have a Samsung T809 with T-Mobile, so my wish is to be able use the software to get online, you know..at all. That and some way to allow for custom button mapping (I like using the volume up/down key on the side of the phone to scroll one screen at a time on the phone's built in browser. It's more comfortable.)

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 06:42:31

goody301

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1. support for WM5's physical softkeys

2. bookmarks management (folders etc.)

I asked for this in the past, but since now you ask us for our wishes, I repeat it. ;-)

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 06:49:20

manjil

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:o: I wish the up comming opera to have ful WAP support. then i will be :smile:

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 06:49:58

Shulyaka

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It would be great if you add some banner filter. Web designers usually design their pages for desktop browsers, and the number of banners for that browsers is not feasible for small browsers like OM. Internet connection is also much faster on desktops to load banners. So, banner filter would be a great feature.

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 10:28:48

I see that this wasn't mentioned before : wouldn't it be nice if there was a minimize option ? Or at least an option to make a call to a specific number from the contact list.

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 11:22:51

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Originally posted by ResuRRectoR:

wouldn't it be nice if there was a minimize option ? Or at least an option to make a call to a specific number from the contact list.


Opera Mini don't have access to contact list. Minimization is supported only by Sony Ericssons and smartphones, so it can't be available in official opera mini build, just in mods.
P.S. To call a number you may enter it, for example, to your my.opera.com homepage, call and then delete.

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 12:11:17

Well since there is the download wizard which chooses your OM version based on your handset I think that they could build a version with this function even if it's only for SE and smartphones.

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 12:33:55

ManneS

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We can't have many different builds. The only reason why we detect the phone, is to know if it should have Basic or Advanced.

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 13:22:42

I knew that but I still tried to get my way P:

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 13:34:44

Originally posted by Shulyaka:

Well, Opera doesn't draw this icon, but I can see a half of it overdrown by the scroll bar right now. I'll post a photo tomorrow, ok?

Sblantipodi is correct, the little globe is outside of the Java enviroment, and should according to the MIDP specification not be overdrawable. The fact that it is sometimes partly overdrawn is rather a freak bug in the phones JRE/JVM than a feature in Opera Mini. Also, we can not change the position of the globe, that it changes between Basic and Advanced is simply because advanced runs in fullscreen.

About signing Opera Mini, take a look at the post below yours; you can't sign a midlet for all the handsets out there since they use diffrent certificates.

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 14:21:04

fbollei

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A very interesting thing it will be the possibility to browse in landscape mode.

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 17:07:14

efenili

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Here is my List:

- Horizantal viewing *Landscape* (For phones like the SE S710a and others that can do this)
*This is the #1 most awesome thing I could ask for. Especially with the swivel screen on some of the new Sony models. (I realize this isn’t a big issue for Opera since us SE users are a small group)

- I was gonna say minimize option but I guess you're not allowed to do that either since its mostly for SE folks.
*Sounds to me like we need an SE edition of Opera Mini=) I would even pay for a few of these features!

- The ability to pick any of the divided pages.
If there are 9 it takes to long if I know I want to go to page 5

- Move your Opera Icon or something. In Opera 1.2 I never saw that Globe in the top right corner that people are talking about. But now in 2.0 it appears and since it covers your logo it just looks funky.

- The ability to use in-browser plug-ins (video player, music player, flash player etc etc.)
*This obviously takes much more work but it would be awesome and this is a WISH list=)

- Ability to download attachements from emails.
*Since stupid Cingular forces users to go online to use their Phone Emails instead of letting us use the in phone email client sometimes I need to download attachments and Opera Mini doesn't allow that.

- A bar showing the Phones connection status.
*Sometimes when a page takes a long time to load I don't know if its because my phone has no bars or because the page is really big. A connection status bar would be nice.

I am sure there is more but truthfully I am really happy with Opera and these things would just be cool to have...

Originally posted by Shulyaka:

Opera Mini don't have access to contact list. Minimization is supported only by Sony Ericssons and smartphones, so it can't be available in official opera mini build, just in mods.
P.S. To call a number you may enter it, for example, to your my.opera.com homepage, call and then delete.



What MOD is this and where?

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 17:49:32

manjil

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I wish the new opera mini which can be minimized or can be made calls read sms and send sms without having to exit opera.

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 21:16:05 (edited)

Shulyaka

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Here is a photo:
It seems all SE phones have this 'bug'. Others don't have that icon at al. There is a way to remove it, the price of question is just a couple strings of code.

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 21:15:20

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There is no file there...

I have never seen anything like you're describing on any SE phone ever.

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 21:19:57

Shulyaka

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Look once more, I've edited URL.

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 21:22:37

Shulyaka

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Maybe not all SEs, but at least my and efenili's have this icon.

Wednesday, 10. May 2006, 21:42:54

efenili

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Ya....mine doesn't look quite like that but I have a globe in the top right cover the O for Opera. I am using the Hi-Res version of OM 2.0. Its not bothersome since in the Hi-Res I have a top bar and my scroll bar doesn't go up there so it doesn't get in the way.

But it is there. I can take a SS when I get home.
If it helps. I use Cingular w/. and unlocked & unbranded SE S710a

Thursday, 11. May 2006, 02:42:49 (edited)

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o.k.mr.genie here are my three wishes

(1.) i'd like to see page up/down scrolling via the keypad, the better to give my toggle button a well deserved rest as it's probably the most used button on my phone

(2.) I'd like to see OM have the ability to decipher pdf files, as opposed to having them downloaded to my phone, which lacks a pdf reader.anyone know of any java apps out there?

(3.) rss readability would be way cool. because OM 2.0 offers file downloads (semantics be damned) and because most,if not all podcasts exist as a mp3 file in .xml format, i would think that an rss reader could mean direct podcasts to my phone, instead of going through ifeedyou.com of course this would probably be network dependent as i cannot download mp3 files at all w/my t-zones plan but i'd sure pay for the plan upgrade if you guys could implement this


speaking of pay, at the risk of being branded an apostate and having a fahtwa called against me,.if opera engineers would be able to include these things and keep it to a managable size, it'd only be fair to have it as a premium service (say a one time purchase of $19.95 w/free upgrades natch.) or having the choice of free classic OM. (not including wish no.1 though, that seems to be a pretty basic feature)

Thursday, 11. May 2006, 02:27:53

scottb

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I wish Opera Mini could open its own network connection. I would pay for it too, but only if it were licensed to the owner and not to the phone.

Thursday, 11. May 2006, 05:12:53

vangrieg

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Ability to copy and paste to and from Opera Mini would make my day on Windows Mobile.

Thursday, 11. May 2006, 06:10:25

zed's dead

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My wishlist:

Sometimes while browsing i accidentally press the end call button which exits the application. It would be nice if it asked if you want to exit, that way one wouldn't have to restart it and just continue with what you were doing.

Also, if it could remember certain settings on startup such as full screen. I always browse full screen but have to put it like that every time

Thursday, 11. May 2006, 06:43:31

EddyMJJ

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Good works.

If we can block Opera Mini in full screen at start....

If we can have the option to save an entire web page to consute offline...

Also if we can choose a blue skin, please. Thanks.

Thursday, 11. May 2006, 07:14:28

ManneS

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Originally posted by Shulyaka:

Maybe not all SEs, but at least my and efenili's have this icon.


Which phones are we talking about here? Models?

Thursday, 11. May 2006, 07:49:00

Shulyaka

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Mine is SE J300i. I don't know firmware version. It is similar with K300.

Thursday, 11. May 2006, 08:18:10

Shulyaka

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Originally posted by efenili:

In Opera 1.2 I never saw that Globe in the top right corner that people are talking about. But now in 2.0 it appears and since it covers your logo it just looks funky.


It seems efenili's phone (S710a) also supports to remove the icon.

Thursday, 11. May 2006, 08:42:25

Shulyaka

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Originally posted by fatladysings:

I'd like to see OM have the ability to decipher pdf files, as opposed to having them downloaded to my phone, which lacks a pdf reader.anyone know of any java apps out there?


There is a way to view pdf on almost every phone. You will need a gmail account. Download a pdf file, then send it to your gmail address, go to m.gmail.com and find your letter. Gmail will convert pdf, xls etc to html. Enjoy!

Thursday, 11. May 2006, 08:51:32

Shulyaka

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Originally posted by zed's dead:

Sometimes while browsing i accidentally press the end call button which exits the application. It would be nice if it asked if you want to exit, that way one wouldn't have to restart it.


Have your ever seen applications that don't exit immediately when you press that button? If no, then, I'm afraid it is as impossible as asking 'do you whish to exit?' when you plug off the battery.

Thursday, 11. May 2006, 10:08:58 (edited)

Ayam

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i'm very very very wish & hope next OM can be FullScreen on Symbian S60 v1 phone & support animation/moving picture thank's :smile:

Thursday, 11. May 2006, 19:01:39

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Another full-screen request. Opera Mini Basic 2.0 works fine on my Palm TX and uses the WiFi connection, but of course it does not take advantage of the full screen. The Advanced version crashes on this device.

Still, thank you for your already nice product. :smile:

Friday, 12. May 2006, 21:48:03

Here is my wishlist:)
1. Jsr 75 support for downloads with resume feature and simultaneous browsing. I think Jsr 75 can also allow us to upload files into emails and forums. . This would be supercool:)
2. Ability to download email attachments and file attachments from forums. . Perhaps this can be done by using the same method that opera mini employs to let us download pictures i.e. By caching the file on opera server. 3. Extract text from pages and copyin it to clipboard or send it as sms
4. Ability to send bookmarks via sms
My other wishes have already been mentioned above;)
Perhaps its not a BAD idea to have an se edition of opera mini :smile: . Sony ericsson even advertises opera mini on their official wap site and has included om on their application list. So i think a specially crafted edition of om could unleash the real potential of the latest se phones and compete with the flexibility of symbian applications:)

Saturday, 13. May 2006, 06:18:57

Ayam

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Another wish & hope for next OM support running text. thank's :smile:

Saturday, 13. May 2006, 06:27:46

Shulyaka

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Well, it would be good if you make OM to download files via your servers when needed. To get to know whether it is needed you could check content-type. Go to http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=137645

Saturday, 13. May 2006, 15:26:01

KISS74

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I wish Opera for Nokia 9210i.

Saturday, 13. May 2006, 15:59:01

krazymelvin

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I wish OM would work in Samsung phones (X200, D410)

Saturday, 13. May 2006, 20:20:31

Shulyaka

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A useful feature is the ability to search on page. It won't take a lot of size of OM.

Sunday, 14. May 2006, 08:47:51

Shulyaka

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What about a RSS support?

Sunday, 14. May 2006, 22:31:54 (edited)

Direwolf

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I love Opera Mini! Use it every day. It's nice to have the full Internet in one's pocket!:smile:

My wish list in order of priority:

1. Support secure https connections so can safely access bank, PayPal accounts, etc. from mobile.

2. Ability to send SMS, MMS without the need to Exit/End Opera Mini.

3. Support WAP sites without the need to call native browser.

4. Remember full/normal screen modes.

5. Incorporate adjustable backlight timer.

6. Clear cache option.

Keep up the great work Opera!:up:

Monday, 15. May 2006, 11:44:32

bitrace

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Opera Mini is great product!!

However, it would be even better if the operamini user agent header (Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/2.0.3920; en; U; ssr) included the name of the device.

This would enable web developers to design better mobile optimised sites with content relevant to specific devices as is already possible with WAP based browsers.

It would be good to plug this gap!!

cheers

Monday, 15. May 2006, 11:52:45

ebuising

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Great product, love the application.

My wishlist:
  • Support for animated GIF
  • Signed application (to get rid of the anoying Midlet Permission request for the connection)
  • Better flip-open support for SE P910i (like refresh)

Monday, 15. May 2006, 15:08:31

Bitrace, the reason that we don't include the device name in the UA-string (anymore?) is that we most often don't know what device it is since the devices has a habit of identifying themselfs as "j2me" or even "null"...

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