Cannot view source with external application

Cannot view source with external application

When trying to view page source with external text editor I get the following message.

Source viewer

You have not specified an external helper application. Do you want to modify the configuration now?

Anyone experiencing this?

Yes, I confirm ! Opening inside Opera works fine though.

Which of the three options are you using - default, other application, or Opera? In Linux (here), there is no "default application" to use, selecting "Use other application" and setting a valid application works fine.

It doesn't matter. Use default application and Use other application both give me the message. Only thing that does work is Opera's internal viewer.

I confirm that 'open with default' doesn't work here on windows 98. For some reason it sees the default app as "txt.txt" (that is what shows up in the readonly editbox). When I tried to set 'other program', Opera crashed. This is with 8473. I emailed a crash log for bug # 213204.

I can confirm that "Open with default" doesn't work in Opera 9 TP2 (build 8212) through build 8367; it either opens in Opera or it displays a "File not found" error. However, in all those builds, "Open with other application" works.

I have no problem whatsoever changing the source viewer with builds 8393 up and through build 8473.

Originally posted by Tomcat76:

I can confirm that "Open with default" doesn't work in Opera 9 TP2 (build 8212) through build 8367; it either opens in Opera or it displays a "File not found" error. However, in all those builds, "Open with other application" works.

I reported that bug some time ago and it was fixed. A new one was introduced this time...

Could this now be a Win9x-specific issue then? I'm on Win2K and don't see it.

As someone reported on the newsgroups the problem is if the path contains spaces.

My external "View source" app is the SynPlus-plugin for Total Commander,
located at:

C:\Program Files\TotalCMD\PLUGINS\Lister\SynPlus\SPlusEditStart.exe

Using this path worked fine for earlier betas. Today I wanted to view the
source of some page and Opera presented me the "There is no external
application set ... do you want to configure now?"-dialog. After playing
around a bit, I found out that setting the path to

C:\Progra~1\TotalCMD\PLUGINS\Lister\SynPlus\SPlusEditStart.exe

works fine. So you might have to look into it.

Not quoting the path again?

Opera itself doesn't quote the path when choosing the file, so why should I?

And it doesn't work with the quotes neither.

It should ..., they must be removing the quotes in the code.

Originally posted by Eddie1506:

As someone reported on the newsgroups the problem is if the path contains spaces.

You can also use the protocol with the space encoded as %20.

For example, this works for me.

Confirmed again; Win XP.

Fixed in build 8482.

Originally posted by neeraj_deshmukh:

Fixed in build 8482.

And then broken again in 8493...

Was working for me in 8493, and is also working in 8496.

It's not working when path is without quotes, like it was before 8473.

When selecting the text editor with "Choose..." button, Opera does not put the quotes around the path, and you'll get the error message.

Originally posted by Eddie1506:

It's not working when path is without quotes, like it was before 8473.

When selecting the text editor with "Choose..." button, Opera does not put the quotes around the path, and you'll get the error message.

For the default application it works without quotes. editor.png

But I can confirm that it is broken when selecting an editor.

BTW, I have bug 194192 on not being able to do this for the external source viewer.

"C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_07\bin\javaw.exe" "-jar" "C:\Program Files\jEdit\jedit.jar" "-reuseview"

I've got it in final version 9 on Windows.

Yes it is amazing that this fundamental problem (spaces in M$ filenames)which anybody who has ever programmed on Windows machines knows about and how to get round has found itself into the final. At least I can now use Scite (much preferred to the new Opera source viewer) with the cures posted here.

Dave

Originally posted by Eddie1506:

It's not working when path is without quotes, like it was before 8473.

When selecting the text editor with "Choose..." button, Opera does not put the quotes around the path, and you'll get the error message.

Yep.this remains in the 9.0 final.There is no quote in 8414,but it works.

I had this Issue changing from 8.54 to 9.0 final. Maybe this is only if there is a space within the filename?

Hmm... I decided to go back to my external viewer and got the same problem. Opera 9.0.8501 on WinXP.

C:\program files\crimson editor\cedt.exe does not work; I had to use C:\progra~1\crimso~1\cedt.exe instead.

Originally posted by scipio:

Hmm... I decided to go back to my external viewer and got the same problem. Opera 9.0.8501 on WinXP.

Using notepad++ in #8509 (xpsp2) no problems.

I'm using Opera 9 buils 8502 under XP SP2 and experience the View Source error with this path:

C:\Program Files\Notepad++\notepad++.exe

but putting quotes on it as below fixes it.

"C:\Program Files\Notepad++\notepad++.exe"

Originally posted by tedm:

but putting quotes on it as below fixes it.

Welcome to Opera and the forums...

Of course, this problem is fixed in the weekly test builds of Opera 9.01...

I have the same problem with Opera 11.62 (1347) on Windows (XP).

I have selected the 4th option (this my configuration used to work since the removed the file extensions in cache) (tried both with and without quotes and %s)

Open with other application D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe
Parameter /c html

Which gets transformed to

Open with other application D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe /c html

But I always get the following wrong error message.

Source viewer
You have not specified an external helper application. Do you want to modify the configuration now?
Yes No

BAD Workaround : Instead of this I have to use the 3rd option, which works with the same EmEditor.exe but is not satisfactory for me.

Open with default application "D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe" "%s"

I don’t understand how/why Open with default application (EmEditor.exe) option can work but not Open with other application (EmEditor.exe) any more ?

As of Opera 12.10 beta, this bug is still present:

when a parameter is added to the call of the source viewer or editor,
Opera produces the error message mentioned above, instead of
calling the specified program and passing the parameters provided.

c:\Example\Editor\edit.exe 

This works.

c:\Example\Editor\edit.exe -lhtml

This doesn't.

The bug is most inconvenient since meaningful extensions were abolished for cached files.
Now editors need a parameter to recognize Opera's cached source as HTML.

What makes a difference is double quoting:

""c:\Example\Editor\edit.exe" -lhtml"

This finally does the trick.

However, after entering it, and closing the dialog box, the quoted call is shown the next time as

Open with other application
E:\2ndPart\unicode\notepad++.exe -lhtml

Parameter:
""

That call doesn't exactly make sense. No wonder users get confused.

Six years have passed since the problem was first reported, yet nothing has been done about it.

Hi Sawo.
I cannot get to make my editor work : D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe /c html %s
I tried double quoting in all possible ways without luck.

Originally posted by jesus2099:

I cannot get to make my editor work : D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe /c html %s
I tried double quoting in all possible ways without luck.

This may or may not be relevant to your problem, but:

I don't think you have to add the %s file name variable.

Opera provides it automatically for the source viewer, if you use the
"Open with other application" entry.

Actually it’s strange because the following simple thing works at home:

Originally posted by homePC:

Open with other application C:\Program Files\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe
Parameter /c html %s

(quotes no where)
I will do same at work again and see if it works there too (because I thought I already tried that without luck).

Originally posted by jesus2099:

Open with other application C:\Program Files\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe
Parameter /c html %s

I will do same at work again and see if it works there too (because I thought I already tried that without luck).

Problem is: Opera takes the parameters from the second box and appends them to the entry in the first.

This might break the proper format of the editor call with parameters.

Look now that’s strange.

I have HOME PC (windows XP pro) that works as follow :

Originally posted by HOME:

Open with other application C:\Program Files\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe
Parameter /c html %s

The parameters may get appended to path afterwards but anyway it works.

But now on WORK PC (same windows XP pro, same external editor and same Opera version : always latest stable, now 12.02.1578) and that does not work as follow :

Originally posted by WORK:

Open with other application D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe
Parameter /c html %s

It can’t be because of the path, can it ?
There must be something in the environment that makes this problem…

Originally posted by PROBLEM:

Source viewer
You have not specified an external helper application.
Do you want to modify the configuration now?

I eventually submitted this DSK-375174 bug to that bug tracking silent/obscure system, FWIW.

Just to make sure, you guys are editing the operaprefs.ini file, right? If you enter the input in the program instead of the file, opera will not preserve the parameter input. To open the source code in notepad++ with HTML syntax highlighting, I changed the Source Viewer line in the operaprefs.ini file to this:

Source Viewer=""C:\Program Files (x86)\Notepad++\notepad++.exe" -lhtml"

and it worked. Notice the two double quotation marks before the path.

Thanks mate, I was not editing operaprefs.ini directly, indeed !
That’s working when I write this in it directly now :

Source Viewer=""D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe" /c html"

Even if there are absolutely no spaces in my path, it won’t work without all those quotes. It’s as you said indeed !
However this is a thank you very much exenter work-around, the DSK-375174 bug remains open for the Opera GUI.
Thanks again, I can at last edit in html in one key only again.

Could an admin move this topic to Opera browser forum, as this bug occurs in the so called stable releases.

I'm not an admin, but I could ... except the reference to the build number in the title doesn't seem appropriate in Opera browser. Well, I suppose I can edit the title too.

Thanks very much, sgunhouse for your move and exenter again for your work-around !

To sum up the bug for newcomers :
THIS WORKS ↘

Open with other application C:\Program Files\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe
Parameter /c html

THIS DOES NOT WORK ↘

Open with other application D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe
Parameter /c html

I get the following error message ↘ (when pressing CTRL+U)

Source viewer
You have not specified an external helper application.
Do you want to modify the configuration now?

Work-around until the source view external application Opera settings GUI works :
directly edit operaprefs.ini as below :

Source Viewer=""D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe" /c html"

This works, however in the settings pane, you see the same thing that didn’t work before.

THIS BUG IS STILL NOT FIXED IN OPERA 12.15 (1748) Windows XP.
My manually fixed setting was reset on Opera update so I had to do it again.
One still has to edit operaprefs.ini manually to :

Source Viewer=""D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe" /c html"
Source Viewer Mode=2

… and never change settings in the GUI or else it will fail again.

You can goto opera:config#source%20viewer and type:

"D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe" /c html

and click save.

That will produce ""D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe" /c html" in operaprefs.ini.

So, in short, for "open with other application", just click "choose" to choose the exe and ok out etc. Then, goto opera:config and quote the path and add your non-spaced params.

Originally posted by jesus2099:

I eventually submitted this DSK-375174 bug to that bug tracking

Person that tested at the time couldn't reproduce the problem. I can though. No matter now though, it won't be fixed for current Opera.

Once the new Opera based on Chromium comes out, if the problem is still there, file a new bug.

Originally posted by burnout426:

You can goto opera:config#source%20viewer and type:

"D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe" /c html

and click save.
So, in short, for "open with other application", just click "choose" to choose the exe and ok out etc. Then, goto opera:config and quote the path and add your non-spaced params.

Setting

Source Viewer   "D:\Tristan\PRG\i\EmEditor\EmEditor.exe" /c html
Source Viewer Mode   2

indeed worked too!
Thanks as it’s way fatser than my method.

Originally posted by burnout426:

Originally posted by jesus2099:

I eventually submitted this DSK-375174 bug to that bug tracking

Person that tested at the time couldn't reproduce the problem. I can though. No matter now though, it won't be fixed for current Opera.
Once the new Opera based on Chromium comes out, if the problem is still there, file a new bug.

The new Opera based on what what what?
OMG… I don’t know if it’s good news…

BTW it would have been great that DSK-375174 tell me one could not reproduce so I could have helped reproduce… :/