Design Your Own Government

Design Your Own Government

There's lots of chatter in D&D about government and politics, but no clear expression of what an "ideal" system would entail.

Here's your chance to draw a detailed picture of what a government ought to look like, what it should do, what it shouldn't do.

Political parties?

Military?

Economic policy?

Education?

Nanny statism?

And my favorite, Care and feeding of the elderly? (hint, hint...I'm an old fart)

Etc, etc, etc.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

You do need to get out and look and see what the rest of the world sees.

"(R)est of the world"=certain bounders from Scotland.

The world isn't about a popularity contest among nations. It's about who owns the most tanks, ships and military aircraft.

Why in all that's holy would I care what Peruvians, Laplanders or Scots think about the U.S.? No joke. Do you do a daily census of lovers and haters of Scotland? I didn't think so.

You need a hobby.
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This just in!

WASHINGTON — In the wake of the attack that killed 16 Egyptian soldiers near the border with Israel last Sunday, the United States and Egypt are negotiating a package of assistance to address what administration officials described as a worsening security vacuum in the Sinai Peninsula.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/world/middleeast/egypt-and-us-step-up-talks-on-security-assistance.html

Did they come to Scotland for help?

I have hobbies and have stated them here but then your grey cells seem to have short attention spans. Furterhmore, been in positions of leadership that helped and influenced many. I also hike out in the fresh air for miles. Does wonders. Kind of ironic for an armchair philospher to tell me to get a hobby. You concentrate on your own failing land and all the ails that are self-created. And you can use one hand with spare fingers for hobbies. Sort out the backyard of the so-called land of the free home of the brave keech before you snipe away with would-be satirical negativisms.

Originally posted by jbrothernew37:

Originally posted by rjhowie:

You do need to get out and look and see what the rest of the world sees.

"(R)est of the world"=certain bounders from Scotland.

The world isn't about a popularity contest among nations. It's about who owns the most tanks, ships and military aircraft.

Why in all that's holy would I care what Peruvians, Laplanders or Scots think about the U.S.? No joke. Do you do a daily census of lovers and haters of Scotland? I didn't think so.

You need a hobby.
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This just in!

WASHINGTON — In the wake of the attack that killed 16 Egyptian soldiers near the border with Israel last Sunday, the United States and Egypt are negotiating a package of assistance to address what administration officials described as a worsening security vacuum in the Sinai Peninsula.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/world/middleeast/egypt-and-us-step-up-talks-on-security-assistance.html

Did they come to Scotland for help?

You forgot to mention whether the British Empire gave a hoot about what we, or anybody else, thought when they were top dog. Nope. They were top dog and they aimed to keep it that way for as long as they could. So, now the torch has passed to another and the former Number One doesn't like it. The Romans probably didn't like it much when others came and took their empire either, then the Greeks before that and so on.

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

Originally posted by jbrothernew37:

Originally posted by rjhowie:

You do need to get out and look and see what the rest of the world sees.

"(R)est of the world"=certain bounders from Scotland.

The world isn't about a popularity contest among nations. It's about who owns the most tanks, ships and military aircraft.

Why in all that's holy would I care what Peruvians, Laplanders or Scots think about the U.S.? No joke. Do you do a daily census of lovers and haters of Scotland? I didn't think so.

You need a hobby.
........................
This just in!

WASHINGTON — In the wake of the attack that killed 16 Egyptian soldiers near the border with Israel last Sunday, the United States and Egypt are negotiating a package of assistance to address what administration officials described as a worsening security vacuum in the Sinai Peninsula.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/world/middleeast/egypt-and-us-step-up-talks-on-security-assistance.html

Did they come to Scotland for help?

You forgot to mention whether the British Empire gave a hoot about what we, or anybody else, thought when they were top dog. Nope. They were top dog and they aimed to keep it that way for as long as they could. So, now the torch has passed to another and the former Number One doesn't like it. The Romans probably didn't like it much when others came and took their empire either, then the Greeks before that and so on.

I don't think the average Roman cared much, and I don't believe the average Brit cares one whit.
Panem et circenses, Panem et circenses.

Originally posted by tt92:

Panem et circenses, Panem et circenses.

For the uninitiated, that's "Pans and circles", "Pans and circles".

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

You forgot to mention whether the British Empire gave a hoot about what we, or anybody else, thought when they were top dog. Nope. They were top dog and they aimed to keep it that way for as long as they could. So, now the torch has passed to another and the former Number One doesn't like it.

I'm guessing that the average Brit cares not a whit.

Top dog? Is that what we are? Can somebody get us down from the ladder, please? I don't much care for the irresponsibility of it. Oh, and the $Billions!

Fly me to the Moon or Mars, but Afghanistan is a road too far. Or is it a bridge?

Simply, Make a Council of however many people, it must 15 or more. Next make a king/queen position. Now. the council and King may make laws, however, both must be in agreement before making a ruling. The exceptions? The king can only make laws on military/political law. But can only rule over Citizen/social grounds. As only the council can only rule over Military/political, but can only make social laws. Religion is never factored. The king can be removed only if a challenger who feels the current king is unworthy. However, the king must survive, death is no option. If the king is replaced, so to is the council. The challenger must also survive, again death is no option. If the king wins, the challenger is banished, never to return to the court. If the king loses, he must never return to the court, unless he challenges the current king/queen.

There are times when I think you can be sensible mjsmprt40 then you spoil it by that immature streak that runs through Americans. In another thread previously, I stated that Empires come and go (something you of course choose to ignore as doesn't suit you). At the time I also said that America was extremely irked at the British Empire due to it's influence in language, world trade, and clean civil service in the BE (more than you can boast in world action). You were determined to replace it and you did and I mused that was the usual state of affairs in that such come and go in empirical ambition. So you became a world economic and military empire. My conclusions were that yours was not a positive one and that when you decline you will take it hard. The usual datf side of America comes up - it is all about who has the most armaments, etc. Typical, Uncle Sam must be bigger better and show off more. And where has that led? Creating a military and bases all over the globe for what? You cannot even afford it but must show off how big you are. A million in uniform to strut about. Wouldn't be so bad in these modern times if you could boast they were as efficient! I am certainly not envious of your nation at all. The level of the destitute, financial dealings, diddling corruption done by Wall Street the need to keep creating wars to keep the military and corporates in charge.

Wars, invasions, unstabling countries you don't like while more and more starve and cannot go to a doctor in the great republic. And in comes Jaybro with some daft distraction with the meant to be subtle dig. So what? In the same war who did the Germans decide to break through in what became the Battle of the Bulge? The US line of course and left you like chickens and no heads and help needed. You landed in North Africa in WW2 and messed up needing help getting used to the sand. Even worse, South Vietnam which should never have been lost. All those men and a bunch of people in a jungle ran circles round you. It's a wonder when you considre the shootings amongst your own, drug crazed soldiers, refusal of orders and with 500,000 there you made the Bridge Too Far look like a passing shoot out (when you weren't shooting your own).Let's not forget Somalia with the cameras alongside the Marines charging off the shore to sort out the locals. They weren't so keen when they had to leave with tails between their legs, eh Jaybro?

You're a big country and you have commercial skills and many decent people but as a nation you are the biggest hypocrite when it comes to world politics and wanting bases everywhere to control the world as you wabt see it and anyone who doesn't is automatically an enemy and heaven help them!. When you are challenged with the obvious you ignore why much of the world is not that happy with you up comes the distracting guff from mjsmsprt40, tr99 and the satirical and useually harmles wafflings of Jaybro! With the state you are in internally the trillion wasted on trying to be the first empire not to go is laughable. Good for you being the latest empire but like the ones before you accept you can no longer afford it. Stop kidding yourselves on you MUST be the world policeman. The people who control your strings back home fed that junk into your brains! Ha, ha, what a funny lot you are!

Originally posted by rjhowie:

There are times when I think you can be sensible mjsmprt40 then you spoil it by that immature streak that runs through Americans.

You folks over our pond ain't seen nothin' yet. Just wait until our galleons are off the Scottish coast!

Back on the thread subject, your defunct empire over our pond is quite similar in some respects.
"David Cameron, Prime Minister...Income: More than £150,000...Estimated wealth: £4 million
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Nick Clegg, Deputy Prime Minister...Income: £134,565...Estimated wealth: £1.5 million
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Income: £134,565 salary plus rental income. ...Estimated wealth: £4.6 million
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Lord Strathclyde, Leader of the Lords...Estimated wealth: £10 million
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Philip Hammond, Defence Secretary...Estimated wealth: £7.5 million
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Jeremy Hunt, Culture Secretary...Estimated wealth: £4.5 million
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Dominic Grieve, Attorney General...Estimated wealth: £3 million
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Francis Maude, Cabinet Office Minister...Estimated wealth: £3 million
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William Hague, Foreign Secretary...Estimated wealth: £2.5 million
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Andrew Mitchell, International Development Secretary...Estimated wealth: £2 million
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And that's a good deal of shekels, even in real money.

So what? We don't have a Wall Street control over government. Prime Minister John Major was once a bus conductor and there are others like him. We have also had independnet MP's without a party backing. That couldn't happen over there and you know it. We have had governments in power with men from working class backgrounds without money. Try doing that on the Hill where Wall Street pulls the chain and se how far you get and you know it. Nor do we build a massive military - we are cutting back which is what you should do. We have a proper multi-party parliament where more than 2 parties get to run everything. Indeed you are a carved up 2 party dictatorship and I bet you vote with a groan too so admit the truth here?? Even Commons Standing Committees are much more represntative of parliament than over the pond. You are being slightly dishonest in trying to control your irked vanity but kind of desperate at the same time.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Prime Minister John Major was once a bus conductor and there are others like him.

Is that true?? so... American, rjhowie.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

So what? We don't have a Wall Street control over government. Prime Minister John Major was once a bus conductor and there are others like him. We have also had independnet MP's without a party backing. That couldn't happen over there and you know it. We have had governments in power with men from working class backgrounds without money.

Nor do we build a massive military - we are cutting back which is what you should do. We have a proper multi-party parliament where more than 2 parties get to run everything. Indeed you are a carved up 2 party dictatorship and I bet you vote with a groan too so admit the truth here??

Oh, I'm sure that all those millionaires forget their poundal interests when running the country.

Hmmmmm...a bus conductor millionaire. Fathom that.

Strange that a second rate appendage doesn't have a "massive military".

I never groan. I look at the Republican offerings, then pull the Democrat lever.

The truth? You wouldn't recognize the truth if it was given to you on your breakfast plate. The truth for Rj simple...bash the US whenever possible, truth be damned.

Strange thing, how did that happen??? department: Not too long back, in living memory plus a grandfather, Britain ruled the waves. She had the biggest and most powerful navy, bar none. Even entering WW2, her battleships ruled the Atlantic so much so that the most powerful German capital ships had to sneak out under cover of night and bad weather to be able to operate at all. The US navy at that time wasn't comparable, really more of a paper tiger than anything else.

Now here we are with the last of the WW2 generation fading into the history books and---- The UK barely has a navy, and Jaybro refers to the Atlantic as "our pond". Really, it would be hard to argue that it isn't "our pond" because we're the only power left with a navy that can argue the point. Russia comes in second, and if it came to it can probably still put on a good show but it would totally bust them to do it. In the last fleet revue, the UK depended on foreign ships to fill the ranks because she didn't have enough of her own to impress the queen.

RJ, I don't quite know how to break this to you, but there's only one way you get away with having such a small navy-- given that you're an island nation dependent on imports for everything. That is because you have Uncle Sam standing in for you, protecting your nation and your vital shipping routes from foreign aggressors. If anybody tries something, the US fleets will come a-running, and you depend on that--- while bad-mouthing us all the while for it. If the US fleet didn't do that, you'd have to build up your own fleets again for the purpose of defense.

Originally posted by jbrothernew37:

The truth? You wouldn't recognize the truth if it was given to you on your breakfast plate.

Truth is like facts. They don't do what I want them to do... so I alter them. You have to show facts who's in charge... if not, you're f***ed up.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

We have a proper multi-party parliament where more than 2 parties get to run everything.

Conservative 305
Labour 254
Liberal Democrat 57
Democratic Unionist 8
Scottish National 6
Sinn Fein 5
Plaid Cymru 3
Social Democratic & Labour 3
Alliance 1
Green 1
Respect 1
Independent 2
Speaker & 3 Deputies* 4
Total number of seats 650
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Given that 559 seats out of a total of 650 are controlled by two parties, how much input do the other six million parties get?

Let me guess...can anybody spell 'goose egg'?

As one British observer has it...

Furthermore, belonging to and campaigning for the Lib Dems is now not merely fruitless, but positively destructive. For all the welcome crumbs they have pilfered from the Tory table, history will surely remember today's Lib Dems for supporting a brutal austerity government. Every penny paid, every letter licked for the Liberal Democrat cause sustains its deplorable programme.

The rest of them together have not the power to put a creak in a Nederlander's windmill.

Save your multi-party nonsense for the wee mousies who inhabit your dream world.

Originally posted by mjmsprt40:

Even entering WW2, her battleships ruled the Atlantic so much so that the most powerful German capital ships had to sneak out under cover of night and bad weather to be able to operate at all. The US navy at that time wasn't comparable, really more of a paper tiger than anything else.

UK had a reason to keep Her Royal Majesties Fleet, they clung to what made them awesome. After WW2 some how America said get rid of it all. America now seems to be the bully, and in all regards, makes me ashamed to call myself such.

Shame is a killer. Apply for Canadian citizenship, but wear a hoodie.

What utter and wandering pathetic keech from Jaybro. Our parliament more is far wider and more representative of the peole than the big 2 party money machines that run your messed up nation. You go and try standing for the Congress and see how far you get. You have no damn chance yet we have had independents standing here without a party or big money and elected. Your warped kind of parliament is a home for big business and corporation string pullers. And that petty other childish waffle about rich MP's. Here living in a democracy people are voting for the party, principles and policies. They have as is obvious to a clear ye more telling than what happens over the pond. What a hypocrisy when you don't have a clue about party discussions and co-operations. Quite farcical an American trying to swat at us when democracy is such a strained even ton the Hill. Pathetic half a story. Touch of the desperates.

You also try to keep you fellow braindeaded ex-colonists happy by saying that the parties have no influence out of the big two. Again thin ground. At present we have a 2-party coalition. From time to time governments have enlisted the support of smaller parties to get legislation through. Standing Committees also reflect the parliament structure but you subtly choose to ignore that. You also know damn well that your closed shop 2 party machines won't allow anyone else in and perosonally find it frustrtaing but one can understand that you need to defend your country. Trouble is it isn't on very good grounding at all. Even many a European country is more democratic than yours. No doubt the more simple minded like in Chicago who are in awe of teachers will grasp your statement with some kind of elementary satisfaction without knowing the whole story.

Now on the subject of navies mjsmsprt40. What another load of diabolical old cobblers. It is that inbred self smug arrogance of so many Americans that "we are the greatest" and the world need us to look after it. Pompous priggery and what one hell of a mess you have made too. We reduced our Armed Forces because of the reality of economics whereas you still go hell bent on massive forces you cannot afford - what is it now near a trillion with all that debt. You are off your rockers over there. Neither do we need your navy. We had a massive navy when we had an Empire and thus understandably but in your case just control freakery. Not causing the confrontation style you have we further didn't need so many ships and we are quite capable of looking after our own interests so shove off. Your latest stupid nonsense is in the Far East where you are deliberately flaunting yourself regarding China, etc. This conceit you have over the military aspect is ludicrous and the usual juvenile stuff of child mind sets. Have a nice day but don't choke over the doughnuts.

Originally posted by jbrothernew37:

Originally posted by rjhowie:

We have a proper multi-party parliament where more than 2 parties get to run everything.

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Given that 559 seats out of a total of 650 are controlled by two parties, how much input do the other six million parties get?

And even that only happened about a decade ago or so while Tony Blair was PM. Until then the UK used pretty much the same all-or-nothing system as the US, with exactly the same side effects.

Originally posted by Macallan:

Originally posted by jbrothernew37:

Originally posted by rjhowie:

We have a proper multi-party parliament where more than 2 parties get to run everything.

...
Given that 559 seats out of a total of 650 are controlled by two parties, how much input do the other six million parties get?

And even that only happened about a decade ago or so while Tony Blair was PM. Until then the UK used pretty much the same all-or-nothing system as the US, with exactly the same side effects.

From the look of things it's still operative. What power do the legion of minor parties possess? If they suckle on the teat of one of the two majors, and the issue is right, maybe a sop and nothing but a sop.

At any rate, if any of the following came to power, I'd put in for citizenship in Scotland

: 2010 Peace Party
: Alaskan Independence Party
: American Independent (CA)
: Conservative Party
: Constitution Party
: Green Party
: Independence Party of America
: Independent (No party affiliation)
: Independent American (Nevada)
: Justice for Vermonters Party
: Libertarian Party
: Liberty Union Party
: Moderate Party
: Mountain Party
: Peace and Freedom Party
: Progressive Democratic Party
: Progressive Party (Vermont)
: Vermont-Independence Party
: Reform Party
:Tea Party
: Working Families Party

Playing silly mind games that shouldn't suit you. One h of a better system than the two who run your country to suit WallStreet and the military. Coming from someone who puts up threads here exercising woe, woe and three times woe about your own nation - one big raspberry.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Now on the subject of navies mjsmsprt40. What another load of diabolical old cobblers. It is that inbred self smug arrogance of so many Americans that "we are the greatest" and the world need us to look after it. Pompous priggery and what one hell of a mess you have made too. We reduced our Armed Forces because of the reality of economics whereas you still go hell bent on massive forces you cannot afford - what is it now near a trillion with all that debt. You are off your rockers over there. Neither do we need your navy. We had a massive navy when we had an Empire and thus understandably but in your case just control freakery. Not causing the confrontation style you have we further didn't need so many ships and we are quite capable of looking after our own interests so shove off. Your latest stupid nonsense is in the Far East where you are deliberately flaunting yourself regarding China, etc. This conceit you have over the military aspect is ludicrous and the usual juvenile stuff of child mind sets. Have a nice day but don't choke over the doughnuts.

It's the curse of empires since the founding of the world. Your empire did the exact same thing in the exact same way for the exact same reasons. It's in the history books, feel free to look it up. I'm not saying it's right, or a good idea-- history proves it isn't, time and time again-- but each new empire that comes along has to find that out for themselves. Now it's our turn. This, too, shall pass and a new empire will come, after us, and have to learn the same painful lessons all over again.

EDIT; ADD-ON: I feel like making some trouble, so here goes---- I said in the paragraph above that another empire would come after us. That is one possibility. Another possibility, according to some people, is that we're the last empire. In the book of Daniel, the king sees a statue that has a golden head, silver chest and so on, down to the feet made partly of clay and partly of iron. This statue, according to the prophesy, represents kingdoms-- empires-- on Earth, from Nebuchadnezzar's day until now. Some people read it that we, the empire presently led by the United States, are the feet of clay and iron. At the end of that prophesy, God destroys all the kingdoms-- including this one-- and sets up His own Kingdom, which lasts forever. We could be the last human empire. This could be the last days, both of this US empire and of human rule.

Sweet dreams.

That's the comic book version.
The actual book is The Book of Danielle, which is available @

As a resident of the UK, I would wholeheartedly disagree with rjhowie's assessment of the British political process and representation.
Despite not requiring huge personal budgets, the UK's selection process is no less elitist or more representative of the people.

You really do need to get out of the country for a look at the real world mjsmsprt40. To say the BE was exactly like the corrupt financial and political chickanery of yours is really funny. Maybe that is meant to be some kind of warped excuse for the way you try to control the whole world? One can just see America trying to create a commonwealth of the nations it has destabiised, attacked or corrupted. No chance. You are still creating extensions to your financial and miitary empire as we proverbially speak. You learn nothing from history nor common sense. Internally you are a farce of a would-be democracy and could learn from others. Your system is no longer working for the benefit of all but the money people. Starving, losing homes and corrupt financial and housing practices prove that.

What you fail to realise is that the more you create military outposts and try to surround would-be enemies (the latest surrounding is Iran) the more you create enemies. The rseult? Up goes the cry for the military and the big business that supplies it and is like an even widening circle of debt you cannot afford. Withdraw more from trying to take the world as your oyster, reduce the bases, spend money at home for by Heavens you urgently need to.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

You really do need to get out of the country for a look at the real world mjsmsprt40. To say the BE was exactly like the corrupt financial and political chickanery of yours is really funny. Maybe that is meant to be some kind of warped excuse for the way you try to control the whole world? One can just see America trying to create a commonwealth of the nations it has destabiised, attacked or corrupted. No chance. You are still creating extensions to your financial and miitary empire as we proverbially speak. You learn nothing from history nor common sense. Internally you are a farce of a would-be democracy and could learn from others. Your system is no longer working for the benefit of all but the money people. Starving, losing homes and corrupt financial and housing practices prove that.

What you fail to realise is that the more you create military outposts and try to surround would-be enemies (the latest surrounding is Iran) the more you create enemies. The rseult? Up goes the cry for the military and the big business that supplies it and is like an even widening circle of debt you cannot afford. Withdraw more from trying to take the world as your oyster, reduce the bases, spend money at home for by Heavens you urgently need to.

That being the case, it's a shame you folks gave all that up.

My oyster? My oyster? Very expensive oysters. I'd be p*ssed if I paid taxes.

And what do we have to show for it? No yearly income from our colonies, no flags flying on the flagpoles of our dependencies, no overseas kings or queens to offer obeisance, no House of Lards! Nothing!

Originally posted by johnnysaucepn:

Despite not requiring huge personal budgets, the UK's selection process is no less elitist or more representative of the people.

support the queen much ol' chap?

Originally posted by Virusboy:

Originally posted by johnnysaucepn:

Despite not requiring huge personal budgets, the UK's selection process is no less elitist or more representative of the people.

support the queen much ol' chap?

God no. What's your point?

Originally posted by johnnysaucepn:

God no. What's your point?

This is D&D...no point needed.

You really do take the proverbial biscuit dear Michigan armchair wonder. Representing a country where only money people can get into Congress. Where the Wall Street money stealers see few ever getting jailed for fraud (still going on), no Welfare State, tens of millions of poor and you have the nerve to pontificate about us? Helps my sense of humour. You lot don't know what representative means you have been conned for so long hence the place is nearly bankrupt and in hock to the Reds. Kind of shows a deep flaw in the racila make-up that political mind sets are juvenile and believe anything. Time to grow up but the trouble is it could all collapse before more discover the truth about their "democracy".

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Time to grow up but the trouble is it could all collapse before more discover the truth about their "democracy".

Well said! But the trouble is, senility has overtaken most… (You're a case in point; as is your country.)
If you prefer, you can use the French: ennui.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

You really do need to get out of the country for a look at the real world mjsmsprt40. To say the BE was exactly like the corrupt financial and political chickanery of yours is really funny. Maybe that is meant to be some kind of warped excuse for the way you try to control the whole world? One can just see America trying to create a commonwealth of the nations it has destabiised, attacked or corrupted. No chance. You are still creating extensions to your financial and miitary empire as we proverbially speak. You learn nothing from history nor common sense. Internally you are a farce of a would-be democracy and could learn from others. Your system is no longer working for the benefit of all but the money people. Starving, losing homes and corrupt financial and housing practices prove that.

What you fail to realise is that the more you create military outposts and try to surround would-be enemies (the latest surrounding is Iran) the more you create enemies. The rseult? Up goes the cry for the military and the big business that supplies it and is like an even widening circle of debt you cannot afford. Withdraw more from trying to take the world as your oyster, reduce the bases, spend money at home for by Heavens you urgently need to.

RJ, the way you write one would think I had engineered all of this. No wonder my ex-wife said I was evil, deceitful and extremely selfish (amongst other things). Well, old boy, here's a clue. I'm not running the show. I never have run the show. If I had, do you really think I'd be living almost as a guest in somebody else's house doing a job that doesn't pay all that much??? OK. maybe I'm using a clever disguise, but still you'd think I would have something to show for it.**

Here's another clue, since you seem to be in such desperate need of clues: With or without leaving the country, it's possible today to get a look at the world. Today we have this wonderful thing called the "Internet"-- I'm sure you've heard of it?-- and it makes it possible even for a shut-in to be in touch with anything that goes on almost anywhere in the world. We get real-time news these days. If somebody half a world away gets shot, I can know he's dead before his body falls down. In case I want differing viewpoints, we have access to news sources that don't necessarily agree with the "Approved Version" that the government might try to spoon-feed us. A lot of those news-feed bookmarks came with Opera, I might add, so maybe blame the Norwegians if I'm not better educated. Also, you may not have noticed that I don't always stick to even those "approved" links, I occasionally use an aggregator who puts his own spin on the news of the day. I'm not the only one either, by any means. That site is popular for a reason, and it's not because I'm the only one who ever visits it.

** Expedited delivery doesn't appear to make anybody rich, especially not if you're driving a van. Many expedited drivers spend a good deal of time living in their vehicles, some have their vehicles set up almost like home. It beats working a regular job.

I think your ex-wife was very, very unfair to you there mjsmsprt40. Cannot imagine you being evil at all and that is an honest asertion. I think perhaps naive on world issues is more your thing but there again there are tens of millions of ex-Colonists who have been drummed into the belief that the USA is the fount of democracy and rights so you are not some alone figure by all accounts! A kind of odd propagation as it happens considering the internal history since not long after it's founding as a Sovereign nation, it drifted away from the would-be high ideals of the revolution. On world affairs it gets just as bad. Spin on the news is now a very definite part of the West these days so your nation is not alonw but as the head of the West it is more open to challenge because of it's contradictory stances.

Do try to get home from your lorry driving - we all need a haven of peace and reflection!

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Do try to get home from your lorry driving - we all need a haven of peace and reflection!

In a strange sort of way, "lorry driving" gives me a haven of peace and reflection I sometimes haven't had at home. I'm the only one except God in the cab of the van, my dispatcher these days doesn't bother me too much, so there's plenty of time to think on things.

A pity, if you spend much time on Howie's diatribes. He knows as much about anything else as he evidently knows of English diction and spelling…

But to return to the original topic (in the spirit I believe it was meant): Alternately, design your own digestive system!

Ah the Forum comic has sobered and woken up. Who the deuce did that?

As it happens it shows how dilly-dolly OakdaleFTL is mjsmsprt40. He couldn't figure out I was making a positive comment. He cannot do that but wanders off in a wee world of his own. Amusing? Yep. Postive? - Beyond him!

Of course, the truly ideal and utopian government would be me as absolute ruler. ;-)

Originally posted by jbrothernew37:

Originally posted by tt92:

Panem et circenses, Panem et circenses.

For the uninitiated, that's "Pans and circles", "Pans and circles".

Made me smile.

Originally posted by OakdaleFTL:

...design your own digestive system!

It would never bloat. It would not give pain randomly. It would never do such things as deciding that a certain substance (such as glutin) would be undesirable and that undesirable glutinous things in the gut should result in inflammation. The end result would be tidy - never any need for paper.

Any challengers?

Yes it all comes down to paperwork in the end.

A good analysis aefields, I would add a further design criteria, the stomach should be a good sailor with no feedback.

It would also be able to handle the flatulence caused by selected D&D posters.

Originally posted by jbrothernew37:

It would also be able to handle the flatulence caused by selected D&D posters.

I believe this will do you justice.

Genius, Virusboy, genius.

Running out to buy a can ASAP.

Sorry aefields you are a wee bitty late. A couple of years back I offered to be being a dictator once elected into that position........

Now that last post Jaybro shows a sense of reality.

Originally posted by rjhowie:

Now that last post Jaybro shows a sense of reality.

All posters should have a minimum of six cans.

Especially a six pack of Irn Bru...............

Scottish sugar water...blecht!

Well it is a bit more acceptable than the ex-Colonial sugar and water called Pepsi and Cocoa Cola. This is one of the few places that can give those two a run for their money. Even McD's sells it.