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10. June 2012, 11:18:03 (edited)
I did find this for what it's worth.
"The Navy is slightly above its 10-year trend line but down a bit from 2011."
In the U.S. the suicide rate is 11.8/100,000.
In the UK the rate is 6.9/100,000
"Suicide in France is more common than anywhere in non-former Eastern bloc except Finland and Belgium. The overall suicide rate is 14.6 per 100,000 people -- twice the rate in Britain and a 40% higher rate than Germany and the US. The suicide rate for French men is 22.8 per 100,000"
From a NYTimes blog...
"Active-duty Army suicide rates have been higher than civilian rates since 2008, when there were approximately 19.6 suicides per 100,000 in the Army compared to 17.7 suicides per 100,000 in a civilian population that was adjusted to be comparable to Army demographics. In 2011, the Army projects that there will be 24.1 active-duty suicides per 100,000, another record high."
This one struck me as odd.
"Long-standing evidence suggests that those who choose medicine for a career are at greater risk for suicide: the suicide rate among physicians in the United States has been described as nearly twice that seen among white American men."
I know the pain of suicide all too well, having lost a son to suicide. Inexplicable. Not a day passes that that tragedy doesn't visit me.
What puzzles me is this high rate. I don't know the figures of other active engaging armies say in the Afghan mes, etc but it does seem a rather odd and terrible matter in the American military. I don't say this for any ulterior motive but it seems to puzzle the top brass why they seem to have a preponderance of such tragedies and still going up. On the positive side they are constructively and quickly going to increase the number of personnel to deal with traumas and mental situations which is important.
Suicides have increased even as the United States military has withdrawn from Iraq and stepped up efforts to provide mental health, drug and alcohol, and financial counseling services.
Paul Rieckhoff, executive director of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, called suicides among active-duty military personnel “the tip of the iceberg.” He cited a survey the group conducted this year among its 160,000 members that found that 37 percent knew someone who had committed suicide.
Mr. Rieckhoff attributed the rise in military suicides to too few qualified mental health professionals, aggravated by the stigma of receiving counseling and further compounded by family stresses and financial problems. The unemployment rate among military families is a particular problem, he said.
“They are thinking about combat, yeah, but they are also thinking about their wives and kids back home,” he said. [/url]
Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
If geiger counter does not click, the coffee, she is just not thick - Pitr Dubovich
GAT d- s: a C++++ UB+ P L++
Korea 36,516 dead
VietNam 58,269 dead
Other minor forays of smaller impact where ground troops weren't involved.
All for what?
Originally posted by rjhowie:
Each death is more than just a statistic it is showing something very deeply wrong.
Boy, did you get that one right.
Originally posted by 53north:
I've been here for over 75 years and wonder what you mean by "it can be alot harder". My life is quite easy and enjoyable. *scratches head* Hint, hint...I am far from wealthy, otherwise I wouldn't be posting here but would be sunning myself on my yacht and sipping martinies.
I was in the US for 2 years, and compared to Britain it can be alot harder on folks. I'd bet soldiers with a community to go back to aren't so likely to nuke theirselves.
Obviously, life is more difficult for some people everywhere, Britain included.
Britons are being caught in a "perfect storm" of rising living costs and falling incomes at a time of cuts to public services that threaten to return the country to levels of inequality not seen since Victorian times, a report by Oxfam says. The charity, best known for its campaigning on development issues abroad, says Britain's 13.5 million poor people are being hit hardest by the government's deficit reduction strategy because of the "wrong balance" between tax rises of £29bn and public sector cuts of £99bn.