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14. June 2012, 19:15:03

masterg20

Posts: 49

Tab Icons are microscopic

I updated one of my computers to opera 12.00 and among other things the icons on the tabs have been reduced in size to the point i cant even see them. they are less then 1/10 the size of the tab. whats the deal?



I can't see which tab is what anymore, i am forced to hover now when i should be able to look at an icon and see what it is.

14. June 2012, 20:05:18

masterg20

Posts: 49

how am i supposed to even use Opera when my tabs appear like this



?


Can't see anything!

14. June 2012, 21:25:25

ricksper

Just a user

Posts: 172

You might try stacking groups of tabs and expanding/contracting the stacks as needed
Win XP SP3

14. June 2012, 21:39:35

masterg20

Posts: 49

they are stack. this is all the tabs unstacked to show that i can see any of the tabs at all

14. June 2012, 22:29:31

Harry2o

Posts: 84

It has nothing to do with stacking or not. Favicons got microscopic in 12 ....

14. June 2012, 22:33:12

masterg20

Posts: 49

Originally posted by Harry2o:

It has nothing to do with stacking or not. Favicons got microscopic in 12 ....


and its hard to use now. how can i change them back

15. June 2012, 04:34:27

unknowndog

Posts: 1

Came here to report this same issue as well, good to know it wasn't something I did wrong. Opera handles a large amount of tabs amazingly and such small favicon sizes makes them quite hard to identify now.

15. June 2012, 06:20:48

StM1

Posts: 5

Opera 12.0 tabs contain the page thumbnail. You can make the icons bigger by dragging the bottom edge of the tab bar (making tabs higher).

My issues with tabs is that "Show thumbnails in tabs" option in advanced preferences seems to do nothing and currently shown tab is no longer identified in any way. Previously current tab was linked at the bottom. This makes closing tabs hard.

Edit: this is on Opera 12.0 on 64 bit Ubuntu 12.04. I don't know about other platforms, and will not upgrade Opera on my Mac until tabs work better.

Sami

15. June 2012, 06:27:49

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sgunhouse

Volunteer

Posts: 65146

Don't try to steal other people's threads, start your own to discuss thumbnails.

The most obvious answer for the tiny favicons is to enable wrapping of the tab bar - however, unless you've also set it to "Images only" it'll expand each tab to full width and include part of the title.

15. June 2012, 08:54:52

StM1

Posts: 5

Originally posted by sgunhouse:

Don't try to steal other people's threads, start your own to discuss thumbnails.

Apologies. I got little carried away. Still dragging down bottom of the tab bar helped me to get bigger icons.

15. June 2012, 09:41:27

Willoughsby

Posts: 2

Yeah, this really is a problem for excessive tabbers like myself:


I hope this gets addressed somehow.

Originally posted by sgunhouse:

The most obvious answer for the tiny favicons is to enable wrapping of the tab bar - however, unless you've also set it to "Images only" it'll expand each tab to full width and include part of the title.


Sadly, that's not really a practical solution, unless one doesn't mind a Firefox-like extender menu, or a grotesquely huge tab bar:

15. June 2012, 09:52:43

Harry2o

Posts: 84

Originally posted by StM1:

Opera 12.0 tabs contain the page thumbnail. You can make the icons bigger by dragging the bottom edge of the tab bar (making tabs higher).
My issues with tabs is that "Show thumbnails in tabs" option in advanced preferences seems to do nothing



"Show thumbnails in tabs" DOES do something. However you can only see the effect if your tab bar is a bit larger than minimum size.
minimum size equals "do not show thumbnails but favicons only.


Nevertheless, this might be a VERY temporary (and inefficient but effective) solution for the favicon problem:
Try enlarging the tab bar by as little as possible (by dragging the bottom part of the tab bar) and you will see unregocnizable thumbnails BUT you will also see the favicons in original size.

EDIT:
it looks like this

15. June 2012, 10:17:24

xor2

Posts: 2

now what is up with opera devs lately?


this is bug or it's actually "by design" and all new Operas will be as unusable as this?

15. June 2012, 16:50:10

masterg20

Posts: 49

Can we get feedback on this opera?!

15. June 2012, 19:10:47

uwerothfeld

Posts: 16

i cant understand how it is possible that no one at opera have notice this giant bug. please opera, fix it!!

16. June 2012, 13:17:59

ardeaC

Posts: 11

I have the same problem. Been using opera since v3.

Tab icons OK in v11, but either very small (about 1/4 tab high) or not displayed at all. The tab bar is not resizeable unless tab thumbs are turned on. Looks very clumsy to have part thumb showing just to get tab icon readable. And for my netbook, I hereby apply for the free Opera magnifying glass.......
PLEASE act, Opera developers!

(XPsp3, hardware accn. enabled, 24" monitor 1920x1200)

16. June 2012, 15:09:57

fightingfoo

Posts: 9

This is very annoying! I've used the "remove close button fix" but I want that close button.

Fix asap, please!

18. June 2012, 13:25:27

vcrpex

Posts: 2

i also have to do the remove close button fix. been a long time opera user as well. it is simply annoying that it overload a once very small browser til now. i always wonder if it is really need for the new codes. i hope the developer change back the code. i only have 20 over tabs but it look so small if i dun use the "remove close button fix"

18. June 2012, 21:32:26

devote

Posts: 72

Opera please, fix it!

20. June 2012, 06:46:48

rogeorge

Posts: 3

Same here.
Since upgrade to v12.0, if you have many TABs, the TAB icons becomes invisible.
Because of this, the TAB bar is unusable, and so, the whole Opera browser became useless. sad

Opera, please fix this issue, make the TAB icons like they were before v12.0.
Please don't tell me about "alternatives" to missing icons, I already know them, for this problem, they are useless.

20. June 2012, 07:07:48

hotwetsticky

Posts: 5

The "solution" is to turn off the (x) or "close tab" button, and turn on closing tabs by double clicking. Then it displays all favicons at normal size, even if you have hundreds of tabs open.

For some reason Opera 12 makes room for the (x) button on each tab, even when not necessary. It is a BUG, one that Opera 11 did not suffer from.

20. June 2012, 08:40:42

feuerkern

live long and prosper

Posts: 88

stack the tabs together.
by the way the tabs are so small that i hit the close tab button(which is invisible) most of the time. cry
All armies, move out! It's time to make Photocide see the light!
-Aeris, Flight Elemental

20. June 2012, 16:39:14

masterg20

Posts: 49

Originally posted by feuerkern:

stack the tabs together.
by the way the tabs are so small that i hit the close tab button(which is invisible) most of the time. cry


they are stacked. 20 tabs is all it takes anymore to screw it up

21. June 2012, 04:59:25

link28469

Posts: 1

Opera ASA, you just killed the best browser in the world. Please fix this.

21. June 2012, 07:16:46

WernR

Posts: 7

Okay, I am also pissed off that downloading the "improved" version Op12.0 results in all my tabs being almost invisible. No thanks to Opera, and I knew why I resisted that "Do you want to download the new version?" button for at least two months now. I certainly won't upgrade again!

But the quick-and-dirty fix is unchecking the "show close button on each tab" in the "Additional tab options". That way the icons are fully displayed (even without increasing the tab height, which resulted in ugly double thumbs), and to close a tab you can easily hit CTL-W or CTL-F4 as well which is actually better than mousing over.

Still, this is the first time I'm really angry at the Opera bunch. Grrr.

21. June 2012, 07:28:08

feuerkern

live long and prosper

Posts: 88

Originally posted by masterg20:

Originally posted by feuerkern:

stack the tabs together.
by the way the tabs are so small that i hit the close tab button(which is invisible) most of the time. cry


they are stacked. 20 tabs is all it takes anymore to screw it up


i just stacked 30 in 1 tab bigsmile
All armies, move out! It's time to make Photocide see the light!
-Aeris, Flight Elemental

21. June 2012, 09:01:15

DufeRob

Posts: 1

The "solution" is to turn off the (x) or "close tab" button, and turn on closing tabs by double clicking. Then it displays all favicons at normal size, even if you have hundreds of tabs open.


Thanks.
But, I hope Opera will clean this bug.

21. June 2012, 15:18:48

masterg20

Posts: 49

Originally posted by feuerkern:

ults in all my tabs being almost invisible. No thanks to Opera, and I knew why I resisted that "Do you want to download the new version?" button for at l


so? when you actually need to see whats in them, expand it and then your back to this problem. doesn;t help

21. June 2012, 21:55:38

virbius

Posts: 7

I also have found that Opera v12 (build 1467) has mucked up the size of the tab icons (favicons). I'm using XP Pro SP3, Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit, and Ubuntu 12.04 and this happens on all operating systems

Following the discussion in here I have disabled the ""Show close button on each tab" and the icons are back to their former size. By doing this I also notice that the standard MDI (I think it's called) Minimise, Maximise and Close buttons just below the main Opera ones. This means that there is still an "X" to click on rather than having to swap to the keyboard for Ctrl+W.

22. June 2012, 06:39:25

barnaby66

Posts: 8

Doesn't work for me. I had no tab icons at all until I disabled the close buttons on each tab, and now I have microscopic icons. It's better than nothing, but still pretty bad.

22. June 2012, 09:29:12

feuerkern

live long and prosper

Posts: 88

Originally posted by masterg20:

Originally posted by feuerkern:

ults in all my tabs being almost invisible. No thanks to Opera, and I knew why I resisted that "Do you want to download the new version?" button for at l


so? when you actually need to see whats in them, expand it and then your back to this problem. doesn;t help


i didnt even post that furious
All armies, move out! It's time to make Photocide see the light!
-Aeris, Flight Elemental

7. July 2012, 11:46:31 (edited)

itxlan

Posts: 12

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22. June 2012, 20:39:33

RedWolfz0r

Posts: 1

This is a massive problem for me! I have been a loyal Opera user for years, but I will have to consider using a different browser until this is fixed.

27. June 2012, 21:53:18

majko6664

Posts: 1

I agree with guys. Please, fix it. It is really annoying. I am using chrome now, because it gets annoying even with 20 tabs !!!

29. July 2012, 13:32:14

flashmozzg

Posts: 3

Hope they'll fix it in 12.01 . There is no point in it. I mean you can't use close button on other tabs anyway, so why resize icons for it?

30. July 2012, 07:02:43

rogeorge

Posts: 3

Originally posted by hotwetsticky:

The "solution" is to turn off the (x) or "close tab" button, and turn on closing tabs by double clicking. Then it displays all favicons at normal size, even if you have hundreds of tabs open.

For some reason Opera 12 makes room for the (x) button on each tab, even when not necessary. It is a BUG, one that Opera 11 did not suffer from.



Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Now I can use Opera again, hope the bug will be fixed in the next versions.

2. August 2012, 13:36:16

Mikhail24

Posts: 11

Originally posted by rogeorge:

Originally posted by hotwetsticky:

The "solution" is to turn off the (x) or "close tab" button, and turn on closing tabs by double clicking. Then it displays all favicons at normal size, even if you have hundreds of tabs open.

For some reason Opera 12 makes room for the (x) button on each tab, even when not necessary. It is a BUG, one that Opera 11 did not suffer from.



Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Now I can use Opera again, hope the bug will be fixed in the next versions.


I have tried this method on newly installed 12.01 and it is NOT WORKING! I am crying sad
Why they implemented such a stupid functionality for DESKTOP version sad

7. August 2012, 10:53:56

rogeorge

Posts: 3

Thank you for fixing it!
In Opera v12.01, this bug vanished. smile

7. August 2012, 12:06:44

Mikhail24

Posts: 11

Are you kidding? This bug is still there. Each time I open Opera with 17 tabs Opera shrink these tabs in height and all icons are scaled down. It is an absurd for such a behavior on 23" display. The most idiotic thing that after shrinking tabs still show the same portion of caption as it was before scaling.

7. August 2012, 12:25:59

Luxor

Scotland

Posts: 70014

Originally posted by Mikhail24:

Are you kidding? This bug is still there.


I don't think rogeorge is kidding at all.
I just opened 55 tabs as an example.

Opera 12.15 build 1748 Windows Vista Premium SP2

Be helpful to the shyman, and be wary of the slyman.
Be guidance to the blindman, and be thankful to the kindman.

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7. August 2012, 12:48:51

Mikhail24

Posts: 11

Indeed, if you maximize Opera's window to fullscreen it will look like on your screenshot, but look at two first screenshots in this topics. People dislike tab shrinking when Opera's windows is not maximized.
So each time I start Opera I have to do the thing described by Harry2o

Originally posted by Harry2o:

Nevertheless, this might be a VERY temporary (and inefficient but effective) solution for the favicon problem:
Try enlarging the tab bar by as little as possible (by dragging the bottom part of the tab bar) and you will see unregocnizable thumbnails BUT you will also see the favicons in original size.

7. August 2012, 13:16:06

Luxor

Scotland

Posts: 70014

Originally posted by Mikhail24:

Indeed, if you maximize Opera's window to fullscreen it will look like on your screenshot, but look at two first screenshots in this topics. People dislike tab shrinking when Opera's windows is not maximized.


Fair enough but here's how mine looks not maximised in Opera 12.01 the favicons are quite clearly visible 57 tabs open.

Opera 12.15 build 1748 Windows Vista Premium SP2

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Be guidance to the blindman, and be thankful to the kindman.

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7. August 2012, 16:54:13

masterg20

Posts: 49



seems fine now in 12.01

57 expanded tabs on a half screen can easily distinguish my tabs

9. August 2012, 08:45:42

dunkelstrahler

Posts: 7

Originally posted by masterg20:


seems fine now in 12.01



Err.. no it doesn't unfortunately. wink Mean to say I can confirm the bug (--feature?!) is still present in 12.01. For me at least, though I don't (and don't want to) have my tabs expanded. I'd also like to say, however, that so far this is pretty much the only trouble I encountered with 12.01 and it is not even that big a deal for me, especially since it doesn't really impinge on the functionality. Even so, it certainly looks a little ugly, as well as somewhat "buggy" overall. I'd surely prefer to keep and see my icons all the time. The mentioned makeshift (thank you!) of not to 'Show close button each on tab' works well for me. Opera thus retains all the icons, but at the same time it's also a bit sad to lose the x's. Hence I call it a makeshift, not a proper solution.

Personally though, I never have too many tabs open at a time, so this cannot be related to the number of tabs opened or to their respective sizes. In fact, on my system it even occurs when I have only about 5 tabs open! But then, I noticed, it will in particular happen whenever I have multiple tabs open displaying sites sharing the same icon! Example: 5 tabs, while 4 of those display, say, some Wikipedia article. Chances are I'll then lose at least 3 of the Wikipedia icons and only the last one (i.e. usually the one furthest to the right) is kept. I may then easily recover one of them by simply reloading the page -- yet only to see that it will be gone again in a jiffy. Now, one might say: What would you need all the icons for? As long as one is kept.. they're all the same anyway?! Which is true. But as I said, it also looks a little ugly, like out of true. Nor do I think this is really intended behavior, like kind of a builtin "redundancy shield". p And for those people with tons of tabs open I can well imagine this quickly becoming troublesome: which is which..?

But then, those poor people obviously have never heard of the Vault. And, sure enough, I definitely miss the Vault's icon in all the screenshots posted here! So just in (the unlikely) case you don't know about it yet: Do check out the Tab Vault extension! If you don't know about it, do it, it's priceless! I use it and it has become so important, I couldn't do without it anymore! It is basically just a store for your various tabs, so that you don't have to keep them open all the time. Since I have Tab Vault, I rarely need to have more than ~10 tabs open at once. That way, things turn out ultra-neat, generally manageable, clear, faster, and your main memory's gonna rejoice. But, I'm just saying... whistle

9. August 2012, 16:09:31

masterg20

Posts: 49

I don't have the problem. and when i say i have 57 expanded tabs i mean visible tabs on the bar, i have probably another 50 stacked/collapsed tabs on my bar you can't see

9. August 2012, 21:07:47

Mikhail24

Posts: 11

I just want to say what I exactly want from Opera:
1) I want all my tabs have the same HEIGHT despite of number of tabs (I don't know why but Opera reduces their height even with small amount of tabs)
2) I want all favicons have the same initial size despite of number of tabs. If there is not enough width to place whole favicon on tab, it is MY problem that I opened so many tabs.

Shrinked 16*16 images is the worst thing any designer could imagine no down

18. September 2012, 23:11:31 (edited)

clanderson

Posts: 30

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