Opera 12 doing freaky things after install

Opera 12 doing freaky things after install

I've started getting weird jumbled letters on web pages after installing Opera 12 for Mac.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43769947@N07/7189523249/in/photostream

Can someone tell me why it's doing this? It's annoying and varies from page to page. And it does it on all websites. Please tell me there's a solution. Even if it means go back to the previous version...

David

Same here.



How can a huge critical bug like this make it through QA for a final build?
Opera does have QA, right...?

At least you do have text. I don't:



had to switch back to 11.64 for now.

How did you switch back? I tried and got a stupid error message about the newer Opera mail files being incompatible.

Got the same Problem here. Really annoying.

http://www.myimg.de/?img=Bildschirmfoto20120618uec179.png

Is there any fix for this?

Ok. So I'm not alone. Now when are they going to fix it???

Originally posted by dthoward64:

How did you switch back? I tried and got a stupid error message about the newer Opera mail files being incompatible.

I don't use Opera Mail, therefore I didn't get any errors - sorry

I ended up just doing an uninstall and then re-installing the 11.64 version (or whatever version was before 12). I wish they would fix it so that I could say yes to if I want to upgrade...

David

Still no word from Opera Devs?
I even get this cryptic symbols on the opera forums, im not able to read a single topic name

Disable hardware acceleration.

System language? How am I supposed to know that? I'm running Mac OS X 10.6.4. As to the fonts installed, I have over 3,000. So listing is not possible. And as to pages, I can log into my Yahoo account and go to my inbox an everything is pure jibberish. I cant read subject lines, sender, etc. Tell me exactly what you need Daniel and I'll try to provide the info. But this is getting ridiculous. I downgraded after it first happened and then this morning I was forced to upgrade, which means I'll have to reinstall 11.64 and move my mail folder over again. Very frustrating.

Well system language would be ENGLISH. Until this upgrade Opera or any other app hasnt had any issues with fonts. And I have no clue how to turn off hardware acceleration...

Originally posted by daniel:

The system language is the language you see being used for default applications such as Finder and Mail.

When reading over 3000 fonts, one of them could be corrupt or just plain invalid. Causing issues when Opera need to switch font at some point after start-up.

As Slamdex suggests, turning off hardware acceleration (which is not fully supported and off by default) is a good first step.

1. So Opera is unusable on systems with more than a dozen fonts? How about you developers limit the browser to, say system fonts? Nobody is going to delete their fonts in order to use a browser. I for one cant work without those fonts and if you dont want to reduce Opera's market share even more somebody better fix this bug!

2. With THREE important menu bars gone for no obvious reason on Mac OS, I cant use a key feature of Opera anymore: custom buttons. Without completely cluttering the remaining bars, that is.

3. You suggest turning off hardware acceleration but apparently expect us to google the way how. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but thats not what I would call good support. And again: why does Opera 12 enable hardware acceleration by default if its NOT STABLE and EXPERIMENTAL?

I also got some font related weirdness after upgrading to Opera 12. Fonts definitely seem to be rendered a bit differently, some of them have garbled CE characters and italics are way off. I suspected the corrupted font file, but FontBook just found some duplicates that I removed, but that hasn't improved a thing. Hope it will get fixed in the future updates.

One of the fonts you have installed may be corrupt in a way that Opera 12’s new font engine cannot handle. You can verify your installed fonts from Font Book.app’s built in font validation. It should report what font you have that is corrupt

Font Book finds 15+ errors with pretty much every single font face, even those installed for ages. Again, I cant deactivate or delete fonts just to please the Opera browser. I love this browser and have been evangelizing its use for the last 10 years but you cant be serious about that...

Seeing how many people posted in this thread the total numbers of affected systems must be huge...

Originally posted by Skythe:

Font Book finds 15+ errors with pretty much every single font face, even those installed for ages. Again, I cant deactivate or delete fonts just to please the Opera browser.

Not to please the Opera browser, but to help the Mac developers figuring out what goes wrong where. If there's a bug on Opera's end, it can be fixed much quicker when there's more data about the problem.

Hi, I got a similar issue since updating to opera 12. looks like this:



It occurs on like one website out of then. but when it does than its on every page, and allways only for certain types of fonts (mostly headlines or links)

FontBook found (doublicates not counted) 4 minor problems and 7 serious errors.
For all of them it says "'post' table usability" or "'kern' table structure and contents" or "'name' table usability"

I'll try to delete those fonts..

cheers m

So deleting the broken fonts didn't change anything...

Please fix this bug fast! I would hate to have to switch to another browser!

Didnt work. I dont think those broken fonts I deleted where used in opera anyway..

Originally posted by daniel:

Originally posted by Skythe:

Font Book finds 15+ errors with pretty much every single font face

If I am to read that literally, it almost sounds like you’ve got problems with your hard drive and the files are starting to get corrupted.

I understand what you're saying. But being a web developer myself I know about debugging and the facts that
a) many ppl got this problem
b) my other 3 browsers are perfectly fine
(imho) indicate that the problem really is Mac and Opera related.

Thanks for looking into this, guys.

Originally posted by daniel:

Just saying this one more time as most users who experience this problem has this exact issue: This option should be 0. Save and restart Opera.

BTW - even my opera:config Page doesn't render properly. The only text I have there is the group-name and textbox-content. Buttons are empty, and setting names are not shown.

Originally posted by daniel:

Originally posted by Skythe:

I understand what you're saying. But being a web developer myself I know about debugging and the facts thata) many ppl got this problemb) my other 3 browsers are perfectly fine

Then you should know that Opera’s font rendering code is not the same as that of your other browsers. It behaves differently.

Yeah. So Opera 12 introduced something that renders some web sites unusable. Its not the user's fault, but the browser's. That's the point we're trying to make here.

Originally posted by daniel:

Just saying this one more time as most users who experience this problem has this exact issue: This option should be 0.

It is.

just to mention what I've figured out yesterday...

My problem with Opera 12 was that on approximately 50% web pages, all images were flickering. Problem was, on every new installation I "pulled" old preferences from previous versions of Opera (11.xx). There is some conflict in new code and old preferences manifesting as rendering bugs. After FRESH install, I only transfered bookmarks, notes and wand data. Everything else I have to customize manually (menus, toolbars..). Back up your appdata-local-Opera and appdata-roaming-Opera folders, uninstall Opera, delete those folders, install fresh Opera, and see if bug still appears.

btw. those folders are from win7 and they are by default hidden..... don't know where is saved user data on mac platform

Originally posted by DarkStarDS9:

BTW - even my opera:config Page doesn't render properly. The only text I have there is the group-name and textbox-content. Buttons are empty, and setting names are not shown.

I was able to fix my problem. Although Font Book reported no errors and no duplicates, I still had two different versions of Arial installed - Arial.ttf and just Arial (called a "Font Suitcase" in Finder). The "Font Suitcase"-Arial was identified as Version 2.60, while the ttf is 5.01.2x. I deleted the "Font Suitcase"-Arial, restarted Opera and had text again

Rainer

But was Arial your default font for your web pages? I have another font set for mine. Just curious as to whether it might be an Arial issue of conflicting versions or something wrong with what I have set as the default font for web pages.

This is probably related to everything being Courier, which has been the case for me since updating to v12. In preferences, Courier is the only font that Opera sees (see screen grab). It doesn't even see the other system fonts, let alone those activated through Linotype FontExplorer.

Originally posted by daniel:

Problems related to the error you have with ‘name table’ matches the corruption you see in Opera (with picking the wrong character from the table). Can you try restarting your system and emptying Opera’s cache after disabling the broken fonts?

Did all that, no improvement. Still the same scrambled Symbols.
hardware acceleration is 0

Would you please try to help us here? What next?
I updated today, still the same problem.

I can't speak to the badly rendered fonts, but the courier-only problem is not fixed by deleting the font cache.

Originally posted by daniel:

I would appriciate it if someone could perform the following steps and report back whether this resolvethe problem for them.

1. Quit Opera (and other applications)
2. Open the Terminal and run these commands:
   

   atsutil databases -removeUser
   sudo atsutil databases -remove
   atsutil server -shutdown; atsutil server -ping

3. Start Opera and reload your tabs

The commands will delete your system’s font cache and should flush out the problem.

Sorry, didnt change anything here either.

Did the recent update (12.02) fix the dyslexic letter thing? I'm hesitant to install it for fear of having to uninstall and go back to the version I'm using now. That was just too much trouble, especially concerning email. I had duplicates everywhere.

David

Originally posted by dthoward64:

Did the recent update (12.02) fix the dyslexic letter thing?

Nope

Then I guess I'll stick with version 11 until they fix the damn thing.

David

It only seem to happen to elements with bold text.

 <h1><strong><b>

after I edited the source with 'inspect element' tool and chenged the tag, it displays properly.

The above is how http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/opera-dev-console-bookmarklet/ renders

It seems it has to do with the 'Helvetica Neue' bold text only.
I downloaded a page locally, and played with shared.css
If one removes the first 2 declarations

font: 13px/1.4 'helvetica neue', 'helvetica-neue', helvetica, arial, sans-serif;

It all turns fine.

Still, other browsers manage to handle this stuff. A bit embarrassing.
I'm on OS X 10.6.8 | Opera 2.02

Originally posted by u8ik:

It seems it has to do with the 'Helvetica Neue' bold text only.
I downloaded a page locally, and played with shared.css
If one removes the first 2 declarations

font: 13px/1.4 'helvetica neue', 'helvetica-neue', helvetica, arial, sans-serif;

It all turns fine.

Still, other browsers manage to handle this stuff. A bit embarrassing.
I'm on OS X 10.6.8 | Opera 2.02

Listen to this guy, Opera. He nailed it.
Not that it was your job and something you should have fixed 6 months ago.

PATCH IT!

Oh the silence.

So why hasnt this been fixed yet?

never had MS Office, I have Libre Office, and previously OpenOffice and NeoOffice. I do have various design & dtp apps installed, and multiple instances of various Helvetica flavors, but I disabled them (the ones I could, the others I guess are tied to the system)

I (who brought the Courier-only issue into this thread) have Microsoft Office installed. It's not new, though: Word 2004 for Mac, version 11.6.6.

MS Office and OpenOffice here.

I see they've come out with Opera version 12.10. Have they fixed our issue? If not, then I'm not going to bother downloading it and installing it.

David

12.10 appears to have resolved the font issues I was having (Courier only). Thanks!