Better search engines management

Better search engines management

I'd like to see:
- Add separator button (so you can separate search engines in groups)
- Move search engines up or down in dropdown menu

In the end it should look similar to this (i've recreated the buttons using image editor):
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5033/searchcontrol9zm.png

Now it appears that you can do this already by "hacking" search.ini file, but i'd prefer these options in Opera 9 itself.
Far more elegant, fast and user friendly

What do you think?

+1 of course – longstanding feature request.

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Accidentally I was thinking of this today...

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possibility while searching (on the belt in the opera) in the window of the search engine of the suggestion, as this way as in www.google.com.
suggestion.jpg

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Check the date the topic was created.. I think that opera team apparently doesn't want this feature in their browser.

I requested this function many times, this is very important feature.

Originally posted by Plazzmex:

Check the date the topic was created.. I think that opera team apparently doesn't want this feature in their browser.

That's no indication at all. The spell-check and add block topics spent ages in this part of the forum until suddenly, without any warning, they were introduced in a snapshot.

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duhhhhhhhh!

+1 once again

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No need to think about this, this is a "must have" (My favourite searches are always on the bottom :-(

In no way a dealbreaker, but I have missed this a lot.

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+1 because i always have to use SearchEdit

+1 Make it possible to drag selected search engine entry from the the list up/down to reorder 'em, that way we won't need to press UP/DOWN button multiple times.

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Originally posted by dude09:

+1 Make it possible to drag selected search engine entry from the the list up/down to reorder 'em, that way we won't need to press UP/DOWN button multiple times.

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I wondered opera developers still don't add usable search engine management feature. I don't think this is too hard.
Or do we have to develop own tool to handle this?
Also I would like to see "rebuild existing engines" feature to update order of them and to re-receive icons.
Does anybody care?

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I'd love to see a "restore defaults" button also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkcX_5hZN6U#t=0m7s

NOT SPAM

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Wow. Four years later and we still don't have these two simple features. I have a hard time even calling them "features"; they are so simple and intuitive you'd think they'd be options from the start. I will continue to bump this thread until this gets implemented. Who's with me?

Originally posted by PKO:

I have a hard time even calling them "features"; they are so simple and intuitive you'd think they'd be options from the start.

Yeah, the first time I used Opera I tried to drag and drop a search engine entry in the searches manager but obtained no success. Funny, isn't?

Wow four years ....

Well its open source right? Someone freaking develop it! No I cant I dont know code. But YOU can. So ready....Go!

yea +1

Seems like an obvious need at the very least to arrange them.


Um you can alphabetize in edit but it doesnt stay alpha when you go back to your page...

Originally posted by maluminse:

Well its open source right?

Nope, Opera is only freeware (free to use but closed-source).

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*bump*
What's the holdup, guys?

I just realized WHEN the original post was done!
More than 4 YEARS ago for something I believe should really be in there!
Also getting more pressing with every more search engines and other options creping up to sort out.

Someone seems to have come up with a solution already.
See this widget:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=123096
Maybe it will work for you :-D

Pretty depressing that no one from Opera has (afaik) even bothered to comment this issue....
OK, it's only been 5 years after all ;-)

Just caught myself revving up the ramble machine; shutting it down and location more appropriate location...
somewhere the desktop team resides....

Originally posted by mrLobster:

Pretty depressing that no one from Opera has (afaik) even bothered to comment this issue....
OK, it's only been 5 years after all ;-)

not commenting does not equal not reading. opera staff regularly read through the wish list and then discuss proposed features internally.

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+1 i was needing that

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sorting + seperators needed!!!

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I've been waiting for this option since... I forget... it's been that long.

Originally posted by serious:

Originally posted by mrLobster:

Pretty depressing that no one from Opera has (afaik) even bothered to comment this issue....
OK, it's only been 5 years after all ;-)

not commenting does not equal not reading. opera staff regularly read through the wish list and then discuss proposed features internally.

Ha, there's little evidence of that.

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+1 Drag & drop search engine to sort order.

Happy 6th year anniversary.
This request is now 6 years old.

Happy belated Birthday from me too!

I hope this tread can be closed soon because the request has finally been fulfilled ;-)
(Wishing, and hoping, and hoping, and wishing,...)

if all you guys want is ordering and adding separators like this:
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5033/searchcontrol9zm.png
you can use SearchEdit from Alexs, this can get most of you satisfied


But if you want some more grouping and favicons function like this:


you can edit search.ini, skin.zip and menu.ini to get it works:

search.ini

• use opera search edit to manage your search order and separators
• define a search type for each items in the detail editor (Ctrl+E or the search icon)
  any # will be fine, I use 2000, 2001, 2002, etc, this is how your menu.ini link to the search engines

skin.zip

• create a folder "favicon" and put all your favicons in it
• skin.ini under [images] add these items
  "google" = any text you define of the favicon
  "=favicon/google.png" = the path of the favicon in skin.zip
  

  google		=favicon/google.png
  
  googletranslate		=favicon/googletranslate.png
  hashdb		=favicon/hashdb.png
  howjsay		=favicon/howjsay.png
  imdb		=favicon/imdb.png

menu.ini (if you don't understand, see menu example)

• under [Hotclick Popup Menu] replace the first two item (or you could keep it) to "Include, Search Menu"
• create [Search Menu] and add items you like
• single item
  "Wikipedia" = Any text you want to show up on your menu
  "2042" = the search type you define in search.ini
  "wiki" = the favicons in your skin.zip
  

  Item, Wikipedia=Hotclick search, 2042,,, "wiki"
  
  Item, 維基百科=Hotclick search, 2041,,, "wiki"
  Item, ウィキペディア=Hotclick search, 2043,,, "wiki"

• submenu
  "Resoure" = text
  "Download menu" = the submenu you created
  "verycd" = favicons
  

  Submenu, Resource,Download menu=show popup menu,,,,"verycd"
  
  Submenu, Google,Search Engine menu=show popup menu,,,,"google"
  Submenu, Database,Database menu=show popup menu,,,,"bangumi"
  Submenu, Encyclopedia,Encyclopedia menu=show popup menu,,,,"wiki"

• separators
  

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  It is very complicated and inconvenience, and you will have to manually edit the three pieces for every new added search engine to get it work. And they are NOT auto-updated. But I think its worth the hell lots of work, since I can very easily search through 50+ of search engines. I hope I can see it as an opera built-in function in the near future, even extension will be great.

@claudio791 I guess didn't search well enough before I post. This is a more user friendly tool than SearchEdit but with less function to sort the search engines.

If you just want to sorted, use Sort Search Engines extension. But if you want it on the menu to be grouped, use SearchEdit.