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Translate3D: will Opera implement this CSS3 extension by Webkit?
I have built and published 3-dimensional maze games using html, css, and javascript. The 3D part thereof depends on the browser's ability to translate / transform planes (any html element) into a 3-dimensional coordinate system, using CSS3.Webkit is capable of this feat, resulting in Safari and Google Chrome being the only browsers currently able to render my game prototypes. I would love to extend the browser range, and be happy to boast Opera among the 3D-CSS-enabled browsers.
Thoughts?
Here's the information page to my latest 3D game prototype:
http://www.omegajunior.net/code/?id=barpull-3dmaze-info
And here's the actual prototype:
http://www.omegajunior.net/code/?id=barpull-3dmaze
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http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebGL
http://seb.ly/2009/09/simple-3d-in-html5-canvas/
et al.
http://seb.ly/2009/09/simple-3d-in-html5-canvas/
et al.
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I'm sorry. What do alternative programming methods have to do with my particular question, apart from one's ability to also use them to create 3d environments?
Do the alternatives you mention allow the programmer to think and program in 3d? Translate3D does: it uses a 3-coordinate system. That's the beauty of it.
Do the alternatives allow one to specify a 3D environment in CSS? Translate3D does. I like that.
Do the alternatives you mention allow the programmer to think and program in 3d? Translate3D does: it uses a 3-coordinate system. That's the beauty of it.
Do the alternatives allow one to specify a 3D environment in CSS? Translate3D does. I like that.
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I guess you mean CSS3 3D Transforms.
+1.
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the point is, these technologies are available now ... and what makes you think webgl and software rasterizers don't allow you to use a 3d coordinate space? 
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Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:
I guess you mean CSS3 3D Transforms.
Ah, yes. That.
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Originally posted by serious:
the point is, these technologies are available now ... and what makes you think webgl and software rasterizers don't allow you to use a 3d coordinate space?
I didn't think that. I asked you whether they did. Subtle difference.
With 3d in CSS, I don't need a software rasterizer. I can think in 3D and program in 3D, straight into CSS and Javascript. That's a benefit the current canvas implementations lack. (I've done some extensive Html5 Canvas imaging a while back, maybe things have improved, but as far as I remember there was no browser support for the 3d context.)
And perhaps WebGL is a decent alternative. I will look at it. Nonetheless, it is a different technology altogether.
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Originally posted by OmegaJunior:
Ah, yes. That.
Mozilla Firefox 10.0+ support CSS 3D Transforms. Internet Explorer 10 will also support CSS3 3D Transforms.
As soon as Microsoft releases IE 10 for Windows 7, Opera will be the only browser not supporting CSS 3D Transforms.
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Ah. Nice that they intend to support 3D Transform, but neither Firefox 16 nor MSIE 10 Preview are capable of rendering my rather elaborate prototype.
Firefox simply freezes, and Msie10 renders pretty much exactly like Opera12.5.
Fun fact: when I tell MSIE10 to apply a transform CSS rule, it silently ignores my command. No error, no nothing. As far as I can tell I provide the correct syntax, and even its own debugger tells me that yes, we certainly do know of that rule. But helas, I can't actually set it.
I'll keep on trying and testing.
As said, it'd be awesome if I could add Opera to the list of able browsers.
Firefox simply freezes, and Msie10 renders pretty much exactly like Opera12.5.
Fun fact: when I tell MSIE10 to apply a transform CSS rule, it silently ignores my command. No error, no nothing. As far as I can tell I provide the correct syntax, and even its own debugger tells me that yes, we certainly do know of that rule. But helas, I can't actually set it.
I'll keep on trying and testing.
As said, it'd be awesome if I could add Opera to the list of able browsers.
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Originally posted by OmegaJunior:
Firefox simply freezes
Glad I am not the only one experiencing that.
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