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1. November 2006, 08:08:07

operadev

Posts: 3

The beta thread

Site under development. Report the nails that need to get hammered.

2. November 2006, 10:40:47

XenoFur

Posts: 43

Site's looking good, works fast and is easy to navigate so far.

A few improvement suggestions/request i do have though:

RSS feed for the articles:
This can quickly lead to spam for the users, as it indiscriminately shunts everything posted, regardless of category. Could you please add the possibility of customizable rss feeds? (Mainly options to choose which categories should be included.)
Alternatively you could also add category-tags to the title of each feed-entry, so the filtering can be done client-side. smile

Library page could make use of a feed if it isn't static.

When i first clicked on the link for this thread opera v9.03.8629 presented me with a download dialog. Might want to check that out.

2. November 2006, 14:16:55

danigoldman

Posts: 302

It would be useful if there were 'next' and 'previous' links on paged articles.
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4. November 2006, 19:01:11

jax

Posts: 6423

The multi-page articles are cross-linked with rel="prev" and rel="next", which means among other things that Fast Forward (Shift+X in Opera) works, as do site navigation bars in browsers having that.

But maybe we should also have traditional prev/next links.
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6. November 2006, 11:47:48

asbjornu

Posts: 41

There's no print stylesheet, so the articles print horribly. Plus, paged articles can't be printed in one go, you have to click through and print each and every page of the article, which coupled with the missing print stylesheet, basically makes the print and following reading process excruciating. Fix this please.

Oh, and what's up with the XHTML 1.0 Transitional DOCTYPE?
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6. November 2006, 14:47:11

jax

Posts: 6423

Yes, a print style sheet is something we should have, as well as printing in a go.

Well, the articles are valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional, so I see no problems with that, though as they are delivered as text/html an HTML type could be used instead.
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8. November 2006, 14:47:57

willosof

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Posts: 26

Originally posted by asbjornu:

There's no print stylesheet, so the articles print horribly.

I'll notify the webteam. Thanks.

Plus, paged articles can't be printed in one go, you have to click through and print each and every page of the article, which coupled with the missing print stylesheet, basically makes the print and following reading process excruciating. Fix this please.

I've added a ticket on it smile

Oh, and what's up with the XHTML 1.0 Transitional DOCTYPE?

I honestly don't know. I'll try to get a good answer to that some time in the future smile
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9. November 2006, 20:45:32

XenoFur

Posts: 43

would it be possible to add a marker to threads one has posted in here on the forum?

10. November 2006, 08:36:33

jax

Posts: 6423

The "My active topics" link above will keep track of the threads where you have participated the last week. Me, I also have topics where I've posted added to the "Subscribed topics". This you can set in Profile > Subscribe to forum topics I participate in.
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13. November 2006, 15:03:19

jax

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Originally posted by asbjornu:

There's no print stylesheet, so the articles print horribly. Plus, paged articles can't be printed in one go, you have to click through and print each and every page of the article, which coupled with the missing print stylesheet, basically makes the print and following reading process excruciating. Fix this please.


Getting there, ?page=all will now show all pages in an article on one page. <a href="http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/28/?page=all">Example</a>
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16. November 2006, 14:36:24

TH307

Posts: 3

Can I download widgets and bring them to many places that I can use it without to redownload again ?
Sometimes the servers're too busy and downloading's too boring (+.+)
I want to share the widgets to many friends (there's somes that needn't to use Internet connection, for ex. the calculator, some games, etc).

Another, can I export the Wand passwords ? I want to say : we can cypher this file with some pass, and when you want to export it, you have to type a pass. And when you import it, retype the pass again (^.^)

Some pages can't be saved by Opera. For ex. www.softpedia.com. I saved it by many ways, but the results're nothing or a page of codes (!.!) How to see ?

Just be easier to use Opera. I love it. (8.8)
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18. February 2007, 01:44:54

asbjornu

Posts: 41

My point was that we were in 2006 (now 2007) and there's absolutely no reason to "transition" from horrible non-semantic-tag-soup HTML any longer. The transition should have been completed long ago, so a Strict DOCTYPE should be chosen instead. And since you're not serving the pages as XHTML (application/xhtml+xml) and don't utilize any of XHTML's advantages (inline SVG, MathML, XForms), I see no reason not to pick HTML 4.01 Strict. But I would be fine with XHTML 1.0 Strict too, of course.
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18. February 2007, 06:43:55

jax

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Avoiding bad source code can only be done by writing good code. The DTD is irrelevant. Transitional allows some undesirable code, but we are not using any of it. The only practical effect of DTDs is doctype sniffing, for that reason we should use a DTD that uniformly triggers standards mode,
which this
one doesn't.
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18. February 2007, 21:13:24

asbjornu

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So if you're not using any of that undesirable code, why do you proclaim (with the DOCTYPE) that you're using it? I'm not saying that changing the DOCTYPE matters in any way, I'm just saying that if you're coding strict, why don't say so too?
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19. February 2007, 07:45:54

jax

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What matters with doctype declarations is that it is correct, that the document is valid. Any browser able to handle Strict is able to handle Transitional, it is a fairly trivial superset (the DTD is for the user agent). We need to have a DTD that doesn't trigger sniffing, these days meaning Strict.

Starting with Transitional and progressing to Strict if and only if no Transitional
features are used is prudent.
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19. February 2007, 20:08:46

asbjornu

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True, but as you said yourself: You don't use any Transitional "features". Well, whatever. This isn't very important to me.
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