Why is Gmail discriminating opera users??

Why is Gmail discriminating opera users??

Ok, it's free, so I can't complain too much. But why can't I get the quick contacts tab, unless I fool mail.google.com and "mask as mozilla"... it works just fine, so it deliberatly disables that feature if it detects opera. Why??

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No idea. Recently a patch was added to browser.js that enabled quick contacts to work even when identifying as Opera. But since then Google have changed something and we're back to square one.

You could always try and email Google asking them the same question.

Google don't like Opera for some reason.

google has business interest with mozilla and also they don't care about small user group of opera.

Originally posted by lncmatos:

it works just fine, so it deliberatly disables that feature if it detects opera. Why??

It still does not work that fine. Sometimes I type some lines and the recipient doesn't get them, or the opposite (I don't get what others have written to me). But when I go to the chat log, it is all there! And, often, I receive some lines multiple times. In my opinion, quick contacts is still not reliable in Opera 9 and, if I worked in Google, I would not release quick contacts to Opera 9 with default settings. But I like testing, so, I always mask as Mozilla. I hope all will work OK soon.

Barulheira, browser.js patched Gmail's code with no known issues. It's virtually certain that Opera sent details of those patches to Google. Google have since changed their code, and those patches no longer work (no doubt fixes to browser.js will be forthcoming.)

Opera have proved that their browser is capable of supporting such functionality, now its up to Google to prove that they want everyone able to use their products.

Simply masking as Mozilla doesn't work because, although it gets you around the browser blocks, it sets up Gmail to use some Mozilla specific functions (that Opera has entirely serviceable alternatives for) not available in Opera.

@BtEO: According to the topic opener (and according to my experience), I cannot

Originally posted by lncmatos:

get the quick contacts tab, unless I fool mail.google.com and "mask as mozilla".

Without masking, everything goes fine, as it should be — without quick contacts. Masking as Mozilla, the quick contacts tab is enabled and works, but there are still problems. I feel this is the reason why Google hasn't still released the quick contacts for Opera with default settings.

Ahh but with browser.js Opera, for a time, displayed quick contacts even when identifying as Opera.

Incidentally, the current downloadable site specific preferences set the defaults for gmail.com, gmail.google.com and mail.google.com to identifying as Opera, meaning that unless you set your own site specific preferences for those Opera will always identify as itself regardless of the global setting. This is because the patches only worked when identified as Opera.

Well, I am testing Gmail right now. Identifying as Opera, there is no quick contacts.
"Current browser.js status: Browser.js is enabled! The active browser.js file is edited: October 12th 2006, version: Opera 9.x"
Does it mean my browser.js is outdated? How could I update my browser.js, since my proxy requires authentication, and

If you use a proxy server that requires user name and password to access the internet, please note that Opera will not request user name and password for an authenticating proxy in order to download ua.ini and browser.js. Site patching or upgrade notification will not take place if such proxies are required.

Opera 9.02 (latest stable release)

As I said in my original post, Google changed their code, so at right this second browser.js does indeed do nothing. But I assure you at one point quick contacts worked perfectly while Opera still identified as itself.

Opera doesn't ship with a browser.js file, so clearly at some point you've successfully got one. I think what that paragraph is actually saying is that if you have not already authenticated yourself with your proxy at some time during your browsing session Opera will not prompt you for a username and password if it becomes time to update browser.js.

You can make sure you have the latest version by choosing the Help menu-->Check for updates... item.

It's just me or it's working now??? I did a opera 9.02 reinstalation in Linux to use the long wanted Flash palyer 9 beta, and Gmail is displaying Quick Contacts by default? I checked and rechecked and site preferences to mail.google.com is set to "identify as Opera".

Can anyone confirm?

Hotmail and Yahoo! Mail have it even worse.

Originally posted by lncmatos:

It's just me or it's working now???

I have seen that there is a new browser.js since November 20. It is updated here. So I tried Gmail without site preferences (that means identifying as Opera). Still no quick contacts. But this may be because I use Gmail user interface in Portuguese. Someone could try the English interface to see if quick contacts work.

Quick contacts and chat do not appear in the English version of Gmail. I'm using Opera 8.5.

Yes, today it isn't working here, also. Maybe they were doing some testing?

Gmail seems to have updated something. Right now it is very interesting:
- Removing mail.google.com site's preferences...
- and removing mail.google.com cookies...
- and calling http://mail.google.com/mail/ ...
the page redirects to a huge URL and quick contacts ARE THERE!
But calling again http://mail.google.com/mail/ quick contacts ARE GONE.
(You know, now I'm identifying as Opera, of course.)
It is worth some more testing...

Originally posted by barulheira:

Gmail seems to have updated something. Right now it is very interesting:
- Removing mail.google.com site's preferences...
- and removing mail.google.com cookies...
- and calling http://mail.google.com/mail/ ...
the page redirects to a huge URL and quick contacts ARE THERE!
But calling again http://mail.google.com/mail/ quick contacts ARE GONE.
(You know, now I'm identifying as Opera, of course.)
It is worth some more testing...

That explains why I was getting quick contacts after a clean install... I purged configuration files for Opera 9.02 debian package and deleted the ~/.opera folder, so no settings or cookies were preserved, and the first time I went to gmail I got quick contacts and now (maybe the 2nd time I went to that page) they were gone...

A new browser.js fix seems to have gone live and Quick contacts + chatting is working for me...

At least until Google change the next thing.

Originally posted by non-troppo:

A new browser.js fix seems to have gone live and Quick contacts + chatting is working for me...

yeah!!! erase all the gmail cookies first!

I use pop3 and smtp, and GMAIL works like a charm. Since that HOTMAIL blocked free access to pop3/smtp, it's the only free choice. Damn YAHOO, who asks 19 dollars for that (

Since I use Opera 9.10 build 8679 It often crashes when I go to gmail ... ??

(Windows XP restricted user)

I have experienced the crash as well. Mine crashed immediately after i logged into mail.google.com. No freeze or anything. I pressed enter and Opera instantly closed/crashed/shutdown.

XP Pro Admin

Originally posted by zavalita2002:

I use pop3 and smtp, and GMAIL works like a charm. Since that HOTMAIL blocked free access to pop3/smtp, it's the only free choice. Damn YAHOO, who asks 19 dollars for that (

have you tried Mr. Postman?

Everytime I click on one of the three links here: 'about Gmail', 'new features' and 'Gmail and privacy' I get this. (Then if I click "back" it goes to the desired page.)

Does it happen to you too?