Wishlist for the new Opera Mini

Wishlist for the new Opera Mini

The old wishlist thread is closed, as Opera Mini has been totally rewritten.

Please use this thread for wishes from now on. Thanks!

Old wishlist thread: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=137651

Wish...

Don't show the cursors when in Full Page view. They decrease focus, and have no purpose, at that zoom level...

version for low memory, medium memory, high memory and unlimited memory, becouse my N73 ME with 2 GB memory card could have cache even 20 mb and it still be small for me, or setting file have 2-9 mb. So thahts kind of version will be very helpfull.
Screen rotation for me is not so important, but could be add. Like others says: better bookmark manager like in Opera DS will be great!

Will be OM 4 Beta work at Siemenses x65/x75 (non S75) series? Very need.

Originally posted by Investor:

Wish...

Don't show the cursors when in Full Page view. They decrease focus, and have no purpose, at that zoom level...

Actually, I found they do. When the zoom box is snapped, It's useful to focus the cursor on what you're going to click on, in my opinion.

Originally posted by adaawana:

Originally posted by ManneS:

The old wishlist thread is closed, as Opera Mini has been totally rewritten.

Please use this thread for wishes from now on. Thanks!

Old wishlist thread: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=137651

ATT MANNES ,or all

Please, all BLACKBERRY PEAR users just want to know why they don't have the full web view or why they cannot have a mouse pointer.....Any setting to perform ????

Is Opera working right now to fix that ???

Your answer will give a peace of mind to thousands.

Another Sad Blackberry pearl owner:cry:

THANKS

In case noone responded (I didn't read further down the thread yet...) They're working on a fix for that. Go to operamini.com and it says that in the download page...

Originally posted by luluch:

1.small fonts,its good for my eyes
2.copy-paste please?
3.theme that i had in OM3
4.Screen rotation,so i can see the page nicely
5.ability 2 saving pages or url in phone memory
6.ability 2 upload data from phone memory
7.ok,i must admit that feeling lost of the 3rd box in OM3,Its useful though,can go directly to wikipedia/dictionary/technorati,why dont u keep it?
8.N gimme back the RSS feed pliz..

copy-paste is based strictly on your phone's native java text input, and themes, the second search bar and RSS are coming back, but haven't been entered into the code yet because of the reason that the code was completely rewritten...

ok!get it ;-) hope they release the final version soon...

diagonal scrolling with 1,3,9....
control virtual mouse with 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.

Ability to directly enter information into text box rather than the current two-step process of having to enter information into a new window, click okay, and then click button on original web page.

Originally posted by Dg33:

Ability to directly enter information into text box rather than the current two-step process of having to enter information into a new window, click okay, and then click button on original web page.

No. The current method calls phone built-in text object, which supports multiple languages, T9 (predictive text) and any other nice feature your phone might support (I think some support copy-and-paste).

What you are asking requires Opera to re-implement this function, and by far it won't be as good as built-in.

Originally posted by IGI2:

version for low memory, medium memory, high memory and unlimited memory, becouse my N73 ME with 2 GB memory card could have cache even 20 mb and it still be small for me, or setting file have 2-9 mb. So thahts kind of version will be very helpfull.

Sorry? Opera Mini does not use phone memory card or phone filesystem at all. It only uses "heap memory" (it is like RAM memory) and a little RMS memory to store persistent data (like bookmarks and history).

If this is not correct and I'm missing something, could someone tell me? (If this is correct, no need to add one more reply to this thread)

1) correct RTL languages handling.
2) improved beta2 before the final release.
3) white/black site lists for images loading (and then the ability to load only several images from blacklisted site - this will solve the issue with sites that overflooded with images and backgrounds)
3.1) ability to toggle background images on/off (same reason as for wish #3)
4) built in "keypad lock" - usefull for phones, that don't have minimization option, hence phone's "keylock" is unaccessable without shutting OM down.
5) landscape view.
6) option to view some sites with rendering of OM3 (there are few sites that rendered incorrectly)
7) saving page for later viewing (if not to the file system, then at least to RMS memory (and this option can be hidden on unsupported phone, like the "photoblog" is hidden on some phones)).
7.1) if file system access from wish#7 is implemented, then: ability to upload files from phone's file system, and not only from camera...
8) at least one more zoom level (medium).
9) well, I think that's all, unless... umm... yes: the release date of final version

P.S. I assume that secured connection and RSS would be added, so I haven't added them to my wishlist.

Originally posted by Chasetastic:

Originally posted by Investor:

Wish...

Don't show the cursors when in Full Page view. They decrease focus, and have no purpose, at that zoom level...

Actually, I found they do. When the zoom box is snapped, It's useful to focus the cursor on what you're going to click on, in my opinion.

The zoom box snaps quicker using keys 2, 6, 8, and 4 (and 10 minutes practise) ?

(Btw. no doubt, cursor is needed when zoomed in)

If a page is very long (many of them are, and even more with width-fitting algorithms), it is a pain to scroll down to middle of the page or some other portion of it. On desktop browsers, it is easily solvable by just dragging the scrollbar handle. On Opera Mini, this is not possible (at least not without a touch-screen). So I suggest this!
(Just for comparison, even text-only *n*x programs like vim and less support this: you can go anywhere by typing the line number or typing a percentage)

Originally posted by ivan_p:

6) option to view some sites with rendering of OM3 (there are few sites that rendered incorrectly)

I think you should report such sites to Opera Software (Opera Mini bug report form). They won't know how to fix such sites if they don't know what are these sites.

I forgot it at my wishlist:
10) folders/groups/directories (or anything equivalent) at bookmarks.
11) maybe some light control? To prevent it from turning off while I'm still reading...

+1 to "get files, photos, etc from phones memory". It would be great if it will be possible to do in all "browse" boxes, but I could be happy if it is possible in Opera comunity blogs.

Bolds are the more important ones for me

- backup bookmarks on my.opera space / restore after version update
- backup RSS feeds on my.opera space / restore after version update
- edit bookmarks & RSS feeds on my.opera
- import/export feeds in OPML format
- sort bookmarks by drag-n-drop, selecting more than one at once
- more options in the context menu (add bookmark for links, for the page, save image)
- copy&paste (maybe an option to show the text in a native box like the edit boxes, then we can use the native copy and paste options in smartphones)
- the pages I visited should be cached smartly. the old 2.x version cached the pages, so if I went back and pushed the same link again, it took me back to the page instantly without downloading and parsing it again.
- automatic update check and pop-up if new version available for Opera Mini
- optional SPEED DIAL at start screen for Opera Mini xD So, that would be GREAT
- one level folders in bookmarks
- maybe 2 tabs at once, no more

and maybe:
- SE M600i's full qwerty keyboard support =D I would die for it XD
- landscape mode

And NO, hell NO:

- (streaming) audio support
- (streaming, flash)video support

current mobile internet rates and speeds are NOT meant for this. Opera Mini is for the FAST and CHEAP browsing, not for the broadband.

Originally posted by DjiXas:

3. I've found that this version navigation is not so great, for example I am using main phone button (confirm) to zoom, but it doesn't zoom out once I click same button again. I have to use #5, so I have to move my fingers to bottom, which makes it a bit slow not so good to navigate. I wonder if there is any option so select like main button to zoom in and out and 5 to follow link or any other ideas? Like holding that button for 1sec would make page zoom out and just clicking would make follow link?

On Sony Ericsson phones at least, possibly others, the right soft key can be used to zoom out again. A little magnifying glass appears next to the "back" selector.

My wish would be for the ability to clear the history EXCEPT for the page I'm actually on, so it doesn't send me back to the Start Page every time.

Also, would it be possible to have a cut and paste clipboard. Just a bit of memory linked to a text field in the menu, that we can store a piece of text that we use quite often. For example, since I use photos I've uploaded in my posts quite often, I have to type the code out each time. I'm currently getting round this by keeping a sticky private post with the code in, but it's not ideal.

Folders to keep bookmarks in for easier management.

More configuration of the start page. I want to choose whether history is shown, which bookmarks are on there, which extra search engines to use (with the ability to add my own), and also have my feeds running through there instead of a seperate link if I choose.

Finally, my phone refuses to make coffee when I wake up in the morning. Can you guys fix that?

Failing that, can you confirm in the opening of this topic that the final release will restore the features from Opera Mini 3.1.2 that are missing from the beta please? That way we'll have more people asking for crazy implausible wishes (that you guys keep pulling off somehow) and less asking for features that are already due.

Originally posted by norti:

And NO, hell NO:

- (streaming) audio support
- (streaming, flash)video support

current mobile internet rates and speeds are NOT meant for this. Opera Mini is for the FAST and CHEAP browsing, not for the broadband.

Sounds like you need a better network mate. Who're you with?

Upload, upload, upload..thats my wish!

Is it possible to have moving or changing or motion images in java? my phone browser manages to have these. I just do not know what term to use but I hope someone understands what I mean by this. With OM4 Iam sure it would be all good to have such a feature. Some images as they change bring with them new and important info.

Originally posted by Chasetastic:

Originally posted by luluch:

1.small fonts,its good for my eyes
2.copy-paste please?
3.theme that i had in OM3
4.Screen rotation,so i can see the page nicely
5.ability 2 saving pages or url in phone memory
6.ability 2 upload data from phone memory
7.ok,i must admit that feeling lost of the 3rd box in OM3,Its useful though,can go directly to wikipedia/dictionary/technorati,why dont u keep it?
8.N gimme back the RSS feed pliz..

copy-paste is based strictly on your phone's native java text input, and themes, the second search bar and RSS are coming back, but haven't been entered into the code yet because of the reason that the code was completely rewritten...

Originally posted by furie:

sounds like you need a better network mate. Who're you with?

do i need to move country? Lol
fyi i live in hungary and i'm satisfied with my operator, but i have broadband dsl at home and i don't want to waste money for downloading inline mp3 songs or autostarting 'funny' videos on my phone. I only want information fast and effective. Videos and music are poisons for mobile browsing. At least at this time. Maybe with wimax this will change in the future

I live and will die for 'BUILT-IN all language support'. That's all I want. I wish nothing but this.

P.S. Opera, please remember, browsers must be able to browse any websites in any languages.

(1.) built in pdf support (i did find an acceptable workaround if i really need to read a file on the fly)
(2.) if not folders for bookmarks then a more "robust" home page a la smart bookmarks in hans basic pocketweb program
(3.) and as furie mentioned above , a selective history deletion or at least a last page save feature so if you do have to clear history (which i seem to frequently have to do now w/om4) you don't end up throwing out the baby with the bathwater..... Sorry, that was a little too cute, to be more blunt, i just don't want to have to re-enter the bloody page just because i have to free up some memory this is especially annoying when it is a password protected site or a page w/an elongated url or a site that you had found via multiple navigated links

Originally posted by norti:

Originally posted by furie:

sounds like you need a better network mate. Who're you with?

do i need to move country? Lol
fyi i live in hungary and i'm satisfied with my operator, but i have broadband dsl at home and i doesn't want to waste money for downloading inline mp3 songs or autostarting 'funny' videos on my phone. I only want information fast and effective. Videos and music are poisons for mobile browsing. At least at this time. Maybe with wimax this will change in the future
Ah, I understand you now.

If they ever added support for those things there'd be an option to turn them off the same way images can be disabled.

Well, since this is only a Beta, I guess, that all the good stuff from OM3 (such as feeds, photoblog, security etc.) will be back at full OM4, but there are things that were not implemented in previous official releases of OM, that I would like to see in the full OM4.
1) Numpad navigation. I see it like this: user checks an option in Settings (a hotkey - like '0' for example - would be much better solution) and gets the navigational/view keys swapped, thus directional keys/joystick now acts as the numpad keys (scrolling, zoom) and numpad acts as navigational keys (up, down, pgup, pgdn, select) in pages and menus.
2) Advanced bookmark organization and export. 'Drag-n-drop' to move bookmarks around (user selects a bookmark, opens the menu, selects 'Move', moves cursor to desired spot, opens the menu again, selects 'Insert') and folders (at least one level). Export could be performed to an online site (my.opera.com for example) or (in case of file system implementation) to a file.
3) Tabs. At least two of them.
4) File system support. Real (actual device's file system) or emulated (using RMS storage) or both (as different 'drives'). I am well aware of the fact that not all devices support this, but I am not the only one who is longing for this.
5) Page saving. If file system support is implemented.
6) Upload / Download manager. If file system support is implemented.

I, for one, hate the fact that I can't just type directly into the text fields in OM4. I know that has to do with the native entry blah blah blah, but it's gawd-awful annoying. Though I have little doubt that this will never be changed (in my mind, fixed).

One thing that would be very helpful: When entering a URL (on my BB Pearl), once you hit the pearl button, the default second-click action should be 'OK' (to accept the address), not "Previous addresses.' I can't tell you how many times I've hit that by mistake. The current behavior is the exception to the rule, and that is the problem (damn my muscle memory).

I would like to have a copy or bookmark feature in the click the 1-Key link information:

When you hit 1 and open LINK - open, open w/o images, or information. I would like when you look at link 'information' to be able to copy or bookmark that link information - that way I can avoid writing down that link information and rekeying it.

It would be great if you could add animated gif like doppler radar animation. It works in the wap browser. I don't know why it can't work in the opera mini? Different zoom levels like manual zoom that is in the nintendo wii to zoom whole page and auto zoom levels to zoom even more when already zoomed in. Cut and paste

Dear sirs,I have following wishes from Opera Mini 4,I know u wont disappoint ur fan that's why u r the best:1.I want an Image Cropping box to work in the future OM or Opera 8.66.2.I should be able to upload images on the sites like ownskin.com.3.Plz make OM compatible for msnwebmessanger.com or google talk or meebo.com.4.Plz make OM compatible for web based application sites like webos.com.5.Pages full of images arnt properly shown on the beta only some part of an image is shown other part remains brown boxes.Thank you.Regards.

I'd like the ability to register my version of Mini so that I can change my settings from a desktop computer. For example, it'd be a lot easier to control which sites display images from a desktop browser then have those changes reflected in the version sent from the Mini servers.

Dear sirs,whenever i uploaded my photo in the avatar in my profile and tried to save it my OM3 is saying-an unexpected error has occured.I use 6630.Plz solve this problem in the up coming OM4.

Originally posted by norti:

optional SPEED DIAL at start screen for Opera Mini xD So, that would be GREAT

Have you tried to press * key?

Originally posted by Furie:

More configuration of the start page. I want to choose whether history is shown, which bookmarks are on there, which extra search engines to use (with the ability to add my own), and also have my feeds running through there instead of a seperate link if I choose.

You already can choose which bookmarks are shown.

Originally posted by Kiranut1:

3.Plz make OM compatible for msnwebmessanger.com or google talk or meebo.com.4.Plz make OM compatible for web based application sites like webos.com.

This won't happen in near future. All sites you listed are heavily based on JavaScript (and sometimes on popups) and on supposition you are using a full-featured desktop browser, you are using a monitor screen (so it is a lot bigger than mobile phone) and you have plenty of memory and bandwidth available. This is not the case of a Java mobile browser.

After extensive testing, here are my wishes:

1. Shared bookmarks with Opera f. Desktop
2. Shared feeds with Opera f. Desktop
3. Shared Wand passwords with Opera f. Desktop (must be secure, though!)
4. In Fit-to Width mode: same navigation as in "PC" mode (i.e. show the mouse plus 2 and 8 for scrolling up and down instead of right/left keys. Otherwise, navigation gets confusing.)
5. In "PC" mode always return the web page that is seen on the PC. Don't allow redirection to mobile-adapted URLs nor Handheld CSS. If I can have the full web on my phone, I don't want to get stripped-down stuff. Even better would be site-specific preferences allowing to switch the UA string between PC and Handheld as in Opera f. Desktop (where we can pretend to be Firefox or IE).

I assume the following will be implemented anyway, just to make sure:

6. Keep the option to switch to "Fit to Width" under any circumstances. Last not least to save traffic if required...
7. Implement feeds and content folding again.
8. Allow secure connections again.

Finally, I want to say that OM4 beta works excellent on my Moto V3xx. Extremely fast, I can go to a number of sites that didn't work well in OM3, and the "PC" mode is really addictive! Since I use it, my traffic volume has tripled, although I dond't spend more time with OM. Operators should like this. Luckily, I am on a data plan that allows me to do this without increasing costs. Congratulations, OM team!

Whenever we use the search field and connection fails (or it keeps waiting for connection but we know it won't connect), we should be able to retry it. Right now, I can type something at search field, and, if I enter that search field again, I need to retype it from scratch. This is not good.

For comparison, this never happens on a web-form, entering/editting again a text input will show the previously written text there.

Coffee from a phone? Mic! What an exellent idea!

Originally posted by CrazyTerabyte:

Originally posted by Furie:

More configuration of the start page. I want to choose whether history is shown, which bookmarks are on there, which extra search engines to use (with the ability to add my own), and also have my feeds running through there instead of a seperate link if I choose.

You already can choose which bookmarks are shown.

If I uncheck all bookmarks the bookmarks section still appears on the Start Page. I should have been more clear with my request. It should read "whether bookmarks are shown" not "which bookmarks are on there". Thanks for pointing that out.

I vote for this:
- Find on this page
- Built in download manager
- support of saving pages
- multiple/own search engine as desktop Opera
- better bookmarks (import,export,sort,add link to bookmark by pointig it,ability to create new folder so we can classify our bookmarks)
- Ability to copy text from page!! (very important)
- store history immediately!!! (when opera crash, last history items is gone)
- show downloaded data in kB in down panel (after time)
- more configuration options for advances users (for example cache configuration, history length)

Usability Problem's:
- I have MDA with no numeric keyboard and I can't simply open popup windows with key 1
- what abaut long press menu button
- or long display touch as is routine on PDA devices
- or special button on down panel (where are Menu, Back button and time)

- popup menu are too small on high resolution touch screen devices
- it's problem touch it with finger
- i think is not problem make it bigger if screen resolution allow it.

Support for the Samsung m610

-Chris

I think adding support for the helio ocean wold be amazing (if thats possible.. but I doubt it ) and better bookmark settings would be amazing (like everybody else is saying)

Where's built-in camera support? I'd like it.

I am one of those who want my small phone to behave almost exactly like a PC when it comes to browsing. ThanX to OM. Now, I want when I enter url yahoo.com, or opera.com, or celtel.com I should get the PC version now that OM4 is with me. I am forced to use such browsers like skweezer or webxcope or a combination of such on OM to get to the PC versions. Also for yahoo I can use the url that involves old, but for the others no. I do not like this any more because I do not get what I want now using OM4. What I mean by this is that I should visit wap or mobile pages when I want to or when I specify. At least for me there is little or no need now because all I need are web pages. Thanx OM for converting our wishes into reality where possible.

'Setting (limiting) browser cache size' advanced option

Browser cache size:
- Disabled (web pages aren't cached at all)
- User setting (setting the browser cache size in KB and/or MB)
- No limit (present functionality)

I would use this option to limit browser cache size to approx. 4 MB!

This is needed on my Nokia N80 because the phone has only 16MB free RAM
at startup, and when I start Media Player, the free memory changes to 13MB,
then I start Opera Mini, the free memory reduces to 5 MB!
And when Opera Mini tries to use more, than 5 MB memory Symbian OS automatically
closes the other running applications (Media Player) to provide more memory...

In Opera Mini 3, selecting small fonts causes the page to be rendered in a smaller, anti-aliased (sub-pixel?) font. Using 4beta, the small fonts setting only affects the UI fonts rather than the page rendering fonts (in fit to width mode). I'd like to see the smaller font return.

I'd also like to select Google as a built in search engine, rather than Yahoo.

I use a Sony Ericsson K600i.

What I miss the most is support for italic characters. While OM supports bold chars, it's not sufficient - italic is even more widely used. Without them, the usability of OpMini is really hampered because italic is used in MANY web pages to emphasize words or denote quoting.

Most (if not all) midlet environments support italic characters - . I've tested this with the two midlet enviroments used on PPC Phone Edition / Smartphone systems: Esmertec (Insignia) and Intent. All of these are able to render italic characters.

I've even compiled a small, deployable midlet to show this and uploaded it to http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/Jargoneer.jar . Feel free to give it a try (it's just a recompiled, repackaged version of the app in the section "Selecting a Font" in Chapter 10 of Jonathan Knudsen's Wireless Java Developing with J2ME, Second Edition).

Folks, is it possible to implement italic support?

screen rotation and

make something happen when you click a Mailto: link (my suggestion can be found here)

I agree we need smaller fonts, or a more compact display. Looks like we can see a lot less text in Opera Mini 4 (small font) than in Opera Mini 3 (Medium font).

In addition, I've made a quick page containing only a

list (no CSS, nothing, just a quick page to throw my links in), and I found the left-margin (or padding, or whatever) in Opera Mini 4 quite big and disturbing. I think lists should have almost no margin/padding at all on mobile browser, only the required to render the bullet.

Originally posted by ManneS:

I've been testing the M610 a lot, and it works.

Mannes, and what about crashing on Siemenses x65/75 (non S75)?

It's been mentioned, but I'll say it again: landscape mode on pda/smartphone devices is essential. i have 208x320 it would be great to wiev sites in landscape