Opera hangs on the last element

Opera hangs on the last element

Has anyone else seen this issue? Sometimes, Opera hangs at 35 of 36 elements or something like that. Usually happens on Wordpress, but I have seen it happening on several different sites. The page will usually scroll, but sometimes the links do not work until it is finished. I am running the latest snapshot and have it set to redraw after 2 seconds.

Yes, this hang happens quite often for me. I hit "stop" and then the page displays OK. I have not discerned a pattern yet.

Usually seems to be with a hit counter. Not certain if that's good or bad ...

Yes, hit counters and certain ad-sites for me.

It's difficult to reproduce because the behaviour seems quite random, but it may be to do with Opera's aggressive pipelining in conjunction with some servers under load.

Seb

Just recently I started having this issue - mainly notice it happening on eBay and Newegg.com. Happens on Newegg every time I dig down into a category (i.e., Motherboards... AMD...16M Max Mem...hang), and only happens on the "full"version. The "lite" version of the site seems to work fine. Still can't find a pattern on eBay though.

Sometimes it's caused by wrong network configuration.
Try some network utilization applications (TCP Receive window size, selective acknowledgement, max MTU etc.). It's a little better but hanging still happens.

I see that quite often as well. I can't tell what is the hang up.

Sometimes it hangs even after downloading all files! I can see "completed request to [name]", all files are downloaded but Opera waits for something. I don't know why.

Usually it is a small file, that does not finish or does not get a response from the server, as sebt says, due to it not expecting such a fast transaction!

Can't Opera request data retransmission? I know, I would underload servers even more.
Recently I heard about Delayed Script Execution (opera:config) but it seems not to work on Opera desktop.

Edit: I meant it works. But it makes some websites (which worked fine before) hang.

I'm only guessing here.. But I guess the problem is predicting when the 'last line' will be!! and just to confuse things, it may well be a bit of flash/JS that was setup earlier, to get a response from something else, that did not manage to get downloaded....

Figured out why mine was doing this - I'm running ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite and had the cookie control set to medium, which blocks 3rd party cookies and blocks private header information. I'm guessing this was conflicting with Opera's own cookie and privacy controls.

Anyway, I set "Cookie Control" to "off" and the problem went away. If I had EITHER 3rd party cookies or private header information blocked individually, the problem was appeared again - both had to be off, which equates to "Cookie Control" being "Off" altogether.

Hope this helps...

Has been like this for as long as I can remember. Seems to be caused by some slow to load (or never-to-load) ads, banners, counters, images... depends on the site. No firewall to blame in my case. Cookies set to first option: "accept cookies" :-/

I'm seeing this as well.

Same problem here on 9770. Not only that, I have to actually stop it loading before I can click on any new links. Really annoying.

Originally posted by rolandb313:

Same problem here on 9770. Not only that, I have to actually stop it loading before I can click on any new links. Really annoying.

Confirmed...

Speaking of the problem in general here (and I usually see it complete all elements and still hang, not all but one), not of whatever's happening with 9770 specifically, but for how many of you does the problem go away when you disable content blocker (site prefs) for the site in question? I've found that's responsible for a lot of these, like wsj.com, which is notorious for it.

Oddly enough though, you can be using the same filterset in FF and not see it ever do it, so it's something specific to Opera, but related to content blocking, at least in some cases.

I don't use 'Content blocker' on 9770 at all...

Right, that's why I mentioned apart from 9770, which I think is a new variation on the problem. I think the general issue has been around a lot longer, even before 9.50.

It seems like this problem has really reared it's ugly head. Using build 1802 on Linux, Opera seems to be hanging on the last element more and more, worse than it was before. My blog does it, as well as other sites I visit. Huck's Army is one. As mentioned before, it is random, but it does seem to be a lot worse with the latest build.

I am not sure this is related, but the two pages that are hanging on the last element both have a YouTube video embeded on them. It appears that the video player is not loading when this happens, even though the rest of the page can be navigated and scrolled. Again, I am not sure if this is related or not.

well, derstandard.at does this (not loading the last element) since ages - like 7.x what I remember, which is when I started using opera

Originally posted by serious:

well, derstandard.at does this (not loading the last element) since ages

due to FrankieBoy:
... and more much more than this it crashes Opera (at least on my system WinXPsp2 Opera9.5.9807) each time I visit derstandard.at

Same issues.
Built 9807.

Someone should file a bug... preferably with this.

Supported!
...and with reference to this thread, please.

I am afraid the title of this thread is somewhat misleading: "Opera hangs on the last element"...

Which last element?
Last with respect to what?

Rendering, written code or only last being resolved and now waiting for being displayed properly?

This should be worked out more exactly.
To my experience it's often a missing response from a server, such as hitlinks.com and the like...

Apparently the algorithm for handling these delays is not working efficiently enough in OPERA compared to IE and FF...
I am circumventing most of those 'hangers' by using an elaborate filter.ini file!

Also post the bug number here when you file it, if you don't mind. I'll file it if no one is against that. I'll file it friday if I don't see a bug number in here before then.

Originally posted by HaJotKE:

Supported!
...and with reference to this thread, please.

I am afraid the title of this thread is somewhat misleading: "Opera hangs on the last element"...

Which last element?
Last with respect to what?

Rendering, written code or only last being resolved and now waiting for being displayed properly?

This should be worked out more exactly.
To my experience it's often a missing response from a server, such as hitlinks.com and the like...

Apparently the algorithm for handling these delays is not working efficiently enough in OPERA compared to IE and FF...
I am circumventing most of those 'hangers' by using an elaborate filter.ini file!

When I say it is hanging on the last element, it actually shows 34/35 elements in the progress field of the address bar. It's as if it is waiting on the last part of a page. As I have stated before, it seems worse on my blog or on the other site I mentioned. Both sites have YouTube videos embedded. I am not sure if that has anything to do with it or not.

I understand what you mean.
I have also seen such a behavior very often, hanging on the (n-1)th of n elements, but if/when it's finally receiving this (n-1)th element OPERA is suddenly loading a lot more than n elements, namely N elements, where N >> n, the counter is simply jumping up to N, and this also multiple times.

Therefore my remarks...

I think a lot off these hang-ups can be solved by blocking the "stats" entries in the content blocker. I've put the following lines in this blocking file and experience faster loading of the pages which hung before and less hang ups on the last element.
My entrie is;

http://stats.*.*

Hope I'm right on this and you'll benefit too.

Originally posted by Yatta:

I think a lot off these hang-ups can be solved by blocking the "stats" entries in the content blocker. I've put the following lines in this blocking file and experience faster loading of the pages which hung before and less hang ups on the last element.
My entrie is;

http://stats.*.*

Hope I'm right on this and you'll benefit too.

Are you talking about the urlfilter.ini file? If so, I put the entry in as you suggested and the same pages are hanging on the last element.

Originally posted by DynaBMan:

If so, I put the entry in as you suggested and the same pages are hanging on the last element.

You'll have to restart OPERA, did you?

Originally posted by HaJotKE:

Originally posted by DynaBMan:

If so, I put the entry in as you suggested and the same pages are hanging on the last element.

You'll have to restart OPERA, did you?

Actually, I edited the file with Opera closed. I am running Linux, if that makes a difference.

Originally posted by DynaBMan:

I am running Linux, if that makes a difference.

No, at least, it shouldn't...
But there are many more STAT - entries...
*stat*.* would be worth a try.

Originally posted by HaJotKE:

Originally posted by DynaBMan:

I am running Linux, if that makes a difference.

No, at least, it shouldn't...
But there are many more STAT - entries...
*stat*.* would be worth a try.

For what it's worth, I do use XP at work and Linux at home. I am having the same problem on the same pages with both systems. It is getting to be very annoying, because even though I much prefer Opera over Firefox, there are times when I use Firefox because of this very thing.

This happens to me a lot with sourceforge.net. Even clicking links does nothing, until you hit escape to stop the current page 'loading' (it'll be stuck at "Elements: 37/37" or something). After you hit escape, the last link you clicked activates.
It's weird. It's happening to me on this machine which is using a web proxy, so maybe that's related. Can't remember if the same problem occurs at home.

I have this problem a lot on hyves.nl, but only when logged in. I also see this on other sites every now and then.
M.

@DynaBman

Nope I just created the entrie in; Menu-Extra > Advanced > Blocked Content ( or Content Blocker I don't know what it is in the English version ) > add

Originally posted by Yatta:

@DynaBman

Nope I just created the entrie in; Menu-Extra > Advanced > Blocked Content ( or Content Blocker I don't know what it is in the English version ) > add

Is this file a .css file or a .ini file?

@DynaBMan:
Content blocker entries go into 'urlfilter.ini', AFAIK.

M/B it's time to follow the advices here...

Please file a BUG-Report with this wizard , point therein to this active thread and then post the BUG-number here!
This number is given to you as an email address after submitting the report so that everyone could send further informations to that report.
But please show this number W/O the email domain part '@bugs.opera.com' in order to avoid SPAM!.

Another important issue would be to use a User Javascript for that bug-filing made by *fearphage* and described here:
"[UserJS] Receive emails from your bug reports"
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=217364
which has the huge advantage, that your BUG-report is now public and thus gets much more thrust...
(Don't forget to fill in your email address first...)
TIA

BTW, visit Remco's unofficial OPERA BUG-list here:
"Bug list (page #) :: Unofficial bug tracking for Opera"
http://opera.remcol.ath.cx/bugs/

Note about what HaJotKE: You have to opt-in to make your bug public. Line 14:

,logToPublicBTS = false; // changing this to true will get your bugs logged to http://opera.remcol.ath.cx/bugs/ also

Thanks for the advertising HaJotKE. It would be nice if everyone used it.

9815 still keeps crashing on 'derstandard.at"

@alf5000

doesn't crash here just fails to load....no reason mentioned despite the various reasons the code can put on your screen (saw some in the code of the page)

I was re-thinking and tried to re-remember what I could have changed in my profile.
'Mask as FireFox' on derstandard.at makes Opera crash - identify as Opera no crash but no correct loading. (at least on my machine)

Originally posted by alf5000:

9815 still keeps crashing on 'derstandard.at"

Just checked it here, NO problems at all, went to multiple pages and explored lots of links. Working really fine here...

You must have some other problems on your system...
... I am still on Windows 2000 however!

[EDIT]
OIC, you have found some reason already...

I am having this problem also.

I had to revert to 9624 to find a stable, usable version.

Even this version seems to hang on a random element.

I wonder if a setting got changed in the newer versions that is causing this.

Suggestions?

Originally posted by rolandb313:

Same problem here on 9770. Not only that, I have to actually stop it loading before I can click on any new links. Really annoying.

As far as I can tell, this behavior has disappeared with Opera build 9841 for Win32.

Anyone else?

gibson

@gibson:

Yes, the latest build shows a big improvement. It seems almost completely fixed for me (linux 1875, win 9841).

Seb

confirmed.
so far no hanging on the last element (or whatever the reason was).

but one question still left for me (no-pro):
go to derstandard.at
progress bar finishes loading - then there is a remarkable lag before the site is shown.
why this? there are other sites with that strange behaviour, too (but I don't remember urls)

but these sites are working now

I sometimes experienced (and still) this kind of problem too.
Haven't got troubles in last two builds yet...
If anyone remember problematic links please post them here.