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The first working draft of HTML 5 is here!
The first working draft of HTML 5 is here! In this article, Anne van Kesteren takes a look at the release and what it means for the future of the Web, and provides links to some of the best in-depth resources available.( Read the article )
Originally posted by dantesoft:
PS: The article has zero instances of grammatical "its"
Lol - good spot, Dantesoft. And I thought I was the grammar police ;-)
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quote from desktopteam blog Feb 23 2007 06:49.36 (direct link to comment)
Originally posted by borg:
Source: Mozilla Links - 5 things I’d like to see in Operawe will not be satisfied before we have the best developer tools in the industry
Originally posted by Percy Cabello:
One of the main reasons I prefer Firefox is that it starts from the belief that it can’t be the ideal browser for everybody
Originally posted by anne:
Since the release of the IE8 beta, this made Opera the only browser without support for client-side storage (of safari, ff, and IE).We're looking into, but we're waiting for that part of the specification to mature a little bit more before we do anything with it.
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quote from desktopteam blog Feb 23 2007 06:49.36 (direct link to comment)
Originally posted by borg:
Source: Mozilla Links - 5 things I’d like to see in Operawe will not be satisfied before we have the best developer tools in the industry
Originally posted by Percy Cabello:
One of the main reasons I prefer Firefox is that it starts from the belief that it can’t be the ideal browser for everybody
Originally posted by anne:
For those wanting the missing functionality, it is not a feature. This would be a convenient way to store settings for userjs scripts instead of the current cookie hacks in place. As we've been needing something along those lines for quite a while, even an old implementation would be better than none at all to the end users.Waiting with supporting it is a feature at this point
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quote from desktopteam blog Feb 23 2007 06:49.36 (direct link to comment)
Originally posted by borg:
Source: Mozilla Links - 5 things I’d like to see in Operawe will not be satisfied before we have the best developer tools in the industry
Originally posted by Percy Cabello:
One of the main reasons I prefer Firefox is that it starts from the belief that it can’t be the ideal browser for everybody
Originally posted by anne:
It seems this is the response to most of my requests. C'est la vie.There are more important matters to focus on
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quote from desktopteam blog Feb 23 2007 06:49.36 (direct link to comment)
Originally posted by borg:
Source: Mozilla Links - 5 things I’d like to see in Operawe will not be satisfied before we have the best developer tools in the industry
Originally posted by Percy Cabello:
One of the main reasons I prefer Firefox is that it starts from the belief that it can’t be the ideal browser for everybody
Originally posted by anne:
Keep in mind that this missing functionality (and this mindset) is negatively affecting the userjs community.I don't think implementing something that we know will change is useful to invest resources in at this point. There are more important matters to focus on.
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quote from desktopteam blog Feb 23 2007 06:49.36 (direct link to comment)
Originally posted by borg:
Source: Mozilla Links - 5 things I’d like to see in Operawe will not be satisfied before we have the best developer tools in the industry
Originally posted by Percy Cabello:
One of the main reasons I prefer Firefox is that it starts from the belief that it can’t be the ideal browser for everybody
Originally posted by anne:
I see. You said you were waiting for it to mature. What stage does it need to get to before I can bug you (opera) more officially? I think the work on it would mean a lot to the userjs community. Letting us know in advance about the change would have sufficed. If Opera already had client-side storage and you post in a blog/forum/some other public place, that we were switching to a newer model then you would have shed your responsibility and placed it on the userjs maintainers. Optimally, I would not like to wait until client side storage is perfect for Opera to implement it. Just like they didn't wait for dragonfly to be perfect. Showing good faith to the community carries a lot of weight. Just like i know the kestrel snapshots are incomplete and could change at anytime, i would have like to been using client side storage already. I know you are saying that it is double (or more) the work to implement twice and i understand that... but I'm not sure you understand my point of view having to hack a way to reproduce firefox, ie, and safari functionality into Opera. Not something I'm proud of when people ask why Opera is the only browser on the market that doesn't/can't do X (client side storage, js clipboard access, oncontextmenu, onunload) but that's a whole different can of worms.it's too late for Opera 9.5 anyhow and has been for the past several months.
To summarize, I see your point in the development process but from the other side of the fence, waiting still sucks.
(I am not upset and not trying to be offensive. I'm not sure if that was clear.)
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quote from desktopteam blog Feb 23 2007 06:49.36 (direct link to comment)
Originally posted by borg:
Source: Mozilla Links - 5 things I’d like to see in Operawe will not be satisfied before we have the best developer tools in the industry
Originally posted by Percy Cabello:
One of the main reasons I prefer Firefox is that it starts from the belief that it can’t be the ideal browser for everybody
Originally posted by fearphage:
Since the release of the IE8 beta, this made Opera the only browser without support for client-side storage (of safari, ff, and IE).
ahah !
Like you didn't knew IE's transactional implementation, which the only thing common with the spec is the naming.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc197062(VS.85).aspx
IE8 does not implement HTML5 globalStorage but IE8 globalStorage.. nothing new here. It's like saying that IE8 implements XHR+CDR because it has their crippled version of XDomainRequest
http://my.opera.com/xErath/blog/