Opera Mini 4.1 beta available for testing!

Opera Mini 4.1 beta available for testing!

We are proud to announce the beta release of Opera Mini 4.1. You can download it from http://www.operamini.com/beta

Here are the new features added since Opera Mini 4.0:

• Download and upload files directly in Opera Mini
  
• Save pages for offline browsing
  
• Autocompletion when entering addresses directly
  
• Find in page
  
• Increased server speed during the last months
  
• Signed versions of Opera Mini
  

Please be aware that the first two features require JSR-75 support on your handset. Far from all handset support this, and it can also be turned on/off in the JVM or by the service provider.

We have now chosen to sign Opera Mini with Verisign and Thawte, and we will provide four different versions on our download server: Double signed (both Verisign and Thawte), Verisign, Thawte, and unsigned. The advantage of the signed version is that you can change permission settings to less restrictive permissions. The end result is that you will get fewer permission dialogs for e.g., file and network access.

We encourage you all to try the signed versions first, unless you have Palm OS or BlackBerry, and if none of them work on your phone, download the unsigned version. By trying to start a signed version, your phone will send some useful feedback to our servers which we will use later.

We hope you all enjoy this beta as much as us, and that you will provide feedback in our feedback thread.

Known issues

As this is a beta, there are bound to be some known issues. Here's a list of some:

• There are problems with entering address directly on some phones. If you experience this problem, please go to settings and disable "Direct address input".
  
• Palm OS and BlackBerry can't use Opera Mini with certificates.
  
• BlackBerry devices with firmware older than 4.2 can't start this beta version. The firmware can be found in "Options -> About" on line #3.
  
• Direct image download doesn't work, but will open in your native browser.
  

What is JSR-75?

JSR-75 is an optional package for J2ME (this is very technical, meaning it can be included in the Java on your phone) which allows Opera Mini to access the file system on your phone. By accessing the file system, Opera Mini can download and upload files without going through the phone's native browser. JSR-75 is also used when saving pages.

Best regards,
The Opera Mini team

LOVE IT SOOOOO MUCH using this on nokia 5300
its like i have opera desktop with me lol its fast (but still doesnt seem faster then regular om4 just same speeds) and love the save pages feature ive been using it like crazy on weather site news sites and lots of site that i need to log in to first, one thing that i want to see a better or customizable start page or ability to have a website as the start page, and maybey bring skins, i know it will increase the size of the app but most phones now can handle that, maybey realease a high memery release with skins included. love the signed versions no restrictions or permission prompts at all.

oh one more feature that ive asked but still dont see is a mouse on every page including mobile view i like the mouse because it goes all directions but in mobile view i cant go all directions just up and down (sry its hard to explain)
so all i want and ill have all my wishes complete is
-mouse at all times
-custom home/startpage
-skins

but again love it sooo much it was nice to upload pictures of my springbreak right there and then AWESOME
2 thumbs up for opera and all there great products

I load hotmail and when I attach a file Opera Mini 4.1B displays:"JavaScript Alert: The file you specified could not be found or is a zero byte file.It has been attached as an empty file"
I've a Sony Ericsson K550i
bug reported, #322493

My 6300 saves pages, but my endevours to download something using "save as" always result in an "Error", and when I click "open", I've been sent to the phone's WAP brouser, as like as in previous OM versions. I use multisigned version. What's wrong?

Originally posted by gaich:

My 6300 saves pages, but my endevours to download something using "save as" always result in an "Error", and when I click "open", I've been sent to the phone's WAP brouser, as like as in previous OM versions. I use multisigned version. What's wrong?

Make sure you have given the permissions correctly. Read the following article by Menneisyys: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=228396

I have set all the permissions to "permitted", but the problem still remains///

Originally posted by gaich:

I have set all the permissions to "permitted", but the problem still remains///

Read the posts on other currently active threads as well: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=2512685
There seem to be an issue going on where only unsigned version let you use file managing on some phone models. This can be caused because the phone's firmware is out of date.

Thank you. My firmware is last but one oficially presented by Nokia(05.50), but I'll try to download the latest one and install it, then we'll see the result...

1 bug !!!


1- persian , arabic language not working example : سلام show in mobile : س ل ا م

example site : www.tabnak.ir

please Fix it

Originally posted by serola:

Originally posted by gaich:

My 6300 saves pages, but my endevours to download something using "save as" always result in an "Error", and when I click "open", I've been sent to the phone's WAP brouser, as like as in previous OM versions. I use multisigned version. What's wrong?

Make sure you have given the permissions correctly. Read the following article by Menneisyys: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=228396

I have this problem too on my nokia 6300 while saving mp3. If I save other files then save dialog box appears. But if I select "save" then "Error. Invalid filename" alert appears.

Originally posted by kucher:

Originally posted by serola:

Originally posted by gaich:

My 6300 saves pages, but my endevours to download something using "save as" always result in an "Error", and when I click "open", I've been sent to the phone's WAP brouser, as like as in previous OM versions. I use multisigned version. What's wrong?

Make sure you have given the permissions correctly. Read the following article by Menneisyys: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=228396

I have this problem too on my nokia 6300 while saving mp3. If I save other files then save dialog box appears. But if I select "save" then "Error. Invalid filename" alert appears.

also experience same problem in 6233 nokia. Filed a bug report.

Hi , Mini 4.1 Beta great stuff ...keep on...

My phone SE K610i ...

Save page works...permissions great..never ask

just now tried upload to photobucket....when I click BROWSE mini opens built in explorer...offers to choose drive etc..even thumbs GREAT , lets me choose the file...uploading....connecting.... (I get a checked box on photobuck) and then when I click on upload on the site itself ..page just refreshes and offers me 3 new field to choose for files...and my file is goone with the wind....so am I doing something wrong or is it a bug

Will report it...

P.S tried upload in Gmail...it works graet...so Photobucket

Originally posted by prking:

Originally posted by Lunkwill:

Originally posted by stiv21:

I understood in what problem in signed jad forgot to prescribe two lines <IMG class="smilie" src="/community/graphics/smilies/frown.gif" alt="" width="17" height="17">
MIDlet-Permissions: javax.microedition.io.Connector.file.write,javax.microedition.io.Connector.file.read

No, those two lines should not help, but will instead make it impossible to install a signed Opera Mini on a large number of devices. To remove that prompt you will probably need to change the default permissions your phone has set on Opera Mini. Someone here can probably help you with that on your phone, if it's possible.

The series 60 permissions have been mentioned several times already. Just use App. Manager, Highlight Opera Mini 4.1, press Options and then select Suite Settings.

That's not the case with several S60 models like the Nokia N95. On them, go to Applications / App. Manager, scroll down to Opera Mini 4.1, press Action, Open and change all occurrences of "Ask every time" (file system read/write operations, that , is, "Read user data" and "Edit user data", will belong to this category) to "Always allowed". Then, just exit by pressing the right softkey two times.

BTW, it's also here that you may want to change "Ask first time" to "Always allowed" of "Connectivity" and "Network access" so that, after loading, you aren't nagged for network access permission at all.

hi i'm using it right now.when it was launched i thought it'd not work without igprs just like its predecessors.so i didn't try it.i downloaded and installed it but didn't try it.just few days back i clicked it accidentally and it worked with wap gprs.i'm very happy with this.now i can even post scraps in orkut using this.
its only downside is the upload download feature.its not working for me.the data transfer is taking place but the uploading does not occur.hope it'll be solved in future releases

The upload function doesn't work either for Motorola ROKR E6, it shows the works, but the size is 0 bytes.
But that's not why I posted, but because of the hard input of entering a url in E6 (touchscreen), you have to tap on Menu - Enter address ... !? ... you have to go down, Tap on Insert Symbol, then click OK (keypad) ... enter the page address, Ok, and then click again Ok on keypad...
Phew, it takes a lot of time!!!

Hey, Take a look at this: http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/04/is_your_mobile_browser_ready_f.html
is a test by W3 for mobile browsers !

My experience of Opera Mini 4.1 beta on the Sony Ericsson W960i has so far been quite positive.

It's surprising how easy it is to forget that OM 4.1 is a signed Midlet and I don't have to grant it temporary permission every time I start it up. It's good!

I have to say that the auto complete function is a little fiddley to use on the W960i but that is no surprise because everything is fiddley on the W960i with the disasterous UIQ interface. In the address line if I enter the first "w" of "www", the next "ww" is automatically added on to form "www". Ok so far. The problem on the W960i is moving on from that to enter the next part of the URL. Tapping any other key will replace the auto completed "ww" with whichever character key you pressed. To move on and enter the next characters you need to get the stylus out, tap the address line to confirm the entry of "www." then go back to the key pad and enter the URL.

Although as I've said I am not in the least bit surprised that the W960i is so inconsistant and inefficient in this respect, it does mean that I prefer to leave auto complete switched off because it does not make anything any easier, unfortunately quite the opposite.

Where is the Opera Mini 4.1 BETA Simulator ?

I'm looking foward to it because I'm using Opera Mini on my laptop frequently than my phone (Because it's faster).

Originally posted by audinue:

Where is the Opera Mini 4.1 BETA Simulator?

I'm looking foward to it because I'm using Opera Mini on my laptop frequently than my phone (Because it's faster).

Use Microemulator: http://my.opera.com/larskl/blog/2008/03/29/opera-mini-in-1280-1024

My first post here.

I am enjoying Opera mini 4.1 Beta for 3 days now. It's the best to date! Wasn't this happy with the 4.0! Never faced any issues till now after some 56 hours of browsing.
I have an E51 which I believe is a phone with JSR-75 (S60-3rd edition). But as said in the starting post, it is not yet functional it seems.

Overall, very good effort from OM team,
Keep it up!

Originally posted by zakariyais:

I am enjoying Opera mini 4.1 Beta for 3 days now. It's the best to date! Wasn't this happy with the 4.0! Never faced any issues till now after some 56 hours of browsing.
I have an E51 which I believe is a phone with JSR-75 (S60-3rd edition). But as said in the starting post, it is not yet functional it seems.

Welcome to Opera Mini forum Zakariyais Exactly what happened? If you have time/willingness to give more detailled feedback, please do it here: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=228140

Originally posted by ManneS:

Originally posted by andresruiz:

Hey, Take a look at this: http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/04/is_your_mobile_browser_ready_f.html
is a test by W3 for mobile browsers !

Cool! I think we do pretty good, actually.

Yes, Opera Mini does it pretty good, you guys from Opera are great, thanks a lot.
I had a problem yesterday night with 4.1B, I entered in My.Opera and I had 2 comments pending to read and when I clicked on every one of them, Opera Mini 4.1B downloaded the commment partially, like (downloading 2 of 9 KB) and stopped with blank web page, it didn't finish downloading, so I had to stop, back and load the comment again, then it loaded it correctry. Then, the second message, and it happened again, so I had to stop again, back, an load it again.
So the first time Opera Mini 4.1B doesn't load my pending message, I have to stop, back and load again.
Do I need to use the bug report wizzard ? I'll do it if you think it's necesary.

Originally posted by serola:

Originally posted by audinue:

Where is the Opera Mini 4.1 BETA Simulator?

I'm looking foward to it because I'm using Opera Mini on my laptop frequently than my phone (Because it's faster).

Use Microemulator: http://my.opera.com/larskl/blog/2008/03/29/opera-mini-in-1280-1024

That emulator doesn't support good JSR-75 implementation. So, few of new nice features of Opera Mini BETA doesn't work.

have been having trouble with OM4.1b since last night, whenever i start to load a page it just keeps no processing for a long time and no page appears. i'm back to using OM4 b3 and that works perfectly. is anyone else facing a similar issue?

Originally posted by selurus:

have been having trouble with OM4.1b since last night, whenever i start to load a page it just keeps no processing for a long time and no page appears. i'm back to using OM4 b3 and that works perfectly. is anyone else facing a similar issue?

Maybe you can specify the type of phone.

i'm using sony ericsson w700i.
well actually OM4.1b is working now but it seems to get stuck no processing for a long time. i'm using socket connection and OM4 b3 works fine on socket.

YES no doubt, the OM4.1 isn't less than fantastic. but it is lacking some features as RENAME THE SAVED PAGES and to open OM4.1directly from the page that we've saved in phone, it also slow down the phone processing speed.....
i hope you'll reply me after visiting the footsteps printed on moon

i'm using a SE W950i .. would be awesome if there's an option to make it act like a system application so that it won't close in low memory conditions

i need to ask you somthing i have a dash and it will not let me log in and iam trying to put opera on my phone but i nee help

I am testing with this new beta v4.1. I'm quite surprised to see that this new release have not tabbed browsing feature. While using GPRS connection, links hyper links will not sent to the desired page. This happens couple of times with me.

the more im using opera mini 4.1 signed the more its getting worse at first it was fast and amazing now 20 seconds to loadwebpages when normal operamini 4 takes just 5, i like the save page features and downloading features but now sometimes om4.1 will say failed to connect so i cant go to the pages to save these new features make me want to use om4.1 but i cant ever connect to the internet with it but with om4 its fine and fast plz plz plz fix wat ever is going on with om4.1 cuz i love it so much mainly the save pages but i cant connect to net anyway to save a page plz again fix it


abyway love opera mini tho its great

it's quite difficult to write text in addressbar in landscape mode.
ps: great work!

I have found some performance degradation regrading the following points:
1. Opera 4.1 beta still unable to load a page which contains a lot of images. I have used the setting high quality image and mobile view. If a page size is near about 1MB with the images then the images are not showing properly and many images are not loaded.
2. The exit time of opera mini 4.1 beta increases near about 3 seconds. while I tried to exit from the opera mini beta it takes too long time from the stable 4.0 version.
I used Nokia 5700 with 512 MB card and opera mini 4.1 beta with multi signed version for testing purpose. Need to improve these things in the final release.

Originally posted by simanta:

Opera 4.1 beta still unable to load a page which contains a lot of images. I have used the setting high quality image and mobile view. If a page size is near about 1MB with the images then the images are not showing properly and many images are not loaded.

This is a known and reported issue: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=229577
I guess it will be fixed in Opera Mini 4.1 final.

Hi. I have 2 small problems, not sure if it's OpMini 4.1 or Samsung e250 phone or dodgy SouthAfrican connection, but didn't happen on old OpMini: phone locks up and can only be unblocked by switching off, and some pages must be repeated to load properly.

All features work on my SE K600i. But if I access many web pages or save many web pages in one session, OM gets stuck. When I exit with the phone shortcut and then try to restart OM it re-installs everytime. Can anyone tell me why?

Originally posted by sujeewads:

All features work on my SE K600i. But if I access many web pages or save many web pages in one session, OM gets stuck. When I exit with the phone shortcut and then try to restart OM it re-installs everytime. Can anyone tell me why?

I understood that once OM hangs you are using the shortcut feature to end the application.
Now when you go to OM again, what exactly happens?
Does it actually just start to reinstall?

Originally posted by jbpseudo:

Originally posted by sujeewads:

All features work on my SE K600i. But if I access many web pages or save many web pages in one session, OM gets stuck. When I exit with the phone shortcut and then try to restart OM it re-installs everytime. Can anyone tell me why?

I understood that once OM hangs you are using the shortcut feature to end the application.
Now when you go to OM again, what exactly happens?
Does it actually just start to reinstall?

Here we have an old problem familar from Opera Mini 4.0: "Installing" at startup after using OM4 for couple of times?
In short: OM4+ should be closed only using "Menu>Exit". I believe Opera Mini team has acknowledged this as a bug, they are aware of it, but probably they still don't know solution for that. The problems start when you do something that "kills" the process before you have time to exit properly. But what to do? All that can be done at the moment is to get rid of the bugs that crash OM4.1beta. So, please report all cases when OM4.1beta get stuck. Consider to fill in the bug report for each separate case. For example fill in the bug report for cases when saving many pages per session causes the crash etc.

Originally posted by Lunkwill:

The "re-installing" issue should have been mostly resolved in 4.1 due to rewrites in how we handle that part of the RMS. However, we can not do anything if the phone loses or corrupts the RMS on itself for some reason, which I am afraid is the case here.

Good to know, thanks Lunkwill

@ Sujeewads - Still around? I don't reacall anyone having problems when saving number of pages. Please consider sending a bug report on Opera Mini 4.1 beta: 'Menu>Tools>Help, Bug Report'.

Thanks for your help everybody! From now on I'll try to exit OM properly if possible. But sometimes OM just doesn't move. I'll also file a bug report as requested.

I wish i could open the pages i saved in the phone on the pc.

There already is an obml image extractor. Sooner we might get some obml viewers.
Btw, Guys is that obml image extractor a legal software?

i don't know if it's OM or network related but when i go to open a page it hangs so i try it a second time it works. happens all the time, but only a pain when googling (i have to go back & re-enter my text in the search field).

Yes, that's another reason why we need to change the search bar to be just like OM 3 secondary search bar so it can retain text.

Feeds look very nice now!

We want a new beta with a huge quantities of new features
When we can see a BETA2???

Sorry for my bad english!
Bug:
Open some page! -> Press 1! -> Go to "Link"! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again!.... Till the phone locks up (about 15 times on my Nokia 5310).

Originally posted by lilmoder:

Sorry for my bad english!
Bug:
Open some page! -> Press 1! -> Go to "Link"! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again! -> Go to "Link" again! -> Press 1 again!.... Till the phone locks up (about 15 times on my Nokia 5310).

lovely bug
I've reported it long ago (#313315) for 4.0...

Is it called recursive programming?